Best 2nd Hand Pick Up For Under 300k

[Smithson]

I'm looking for a two door extra cab pick up, will be hauling stuff often, but nothing to heavy. I'd like something that is comfortable when driving on the highway, not too thirsty and relatively decent safety standards.

Recently I hired a Tiger and wasn't impressed at all (normally I like Toyotas), especially with the fuel consumption.

Any suggestions?

[funfun]

there was one for sale outside Tornado bar soi 6 pattaya, dont know what make but was 340,000 but id think one could chip em, was a 4x4 pickup with hard top back, havent seen it for a week but will walk over and ask if you want any more details

chris

[Smithson]

Thanks for the offer, actually I wasn't looking for a 4wd, they look nice, but there's not much need for them.

[otherstuff1957]

I'm not sure that TV allows links, but if they do:

Talad Rot

Thaicar - the Pickup section

Car2Day

They're all in Thai, but your long-haired dictionary should be able to help you with that.

[Gary A]

I'd buy a non turbo Nissan. Great fuel economy and a very dependable truck.

[Smithson]

Thanks, any recommendation on a good model in that price range?

[Gary A]

Thanks, any recommendation on a good model in that price range?

I have a 2004 Nissan, Frontier 3.0 ZDI King Cab. I doubt I could get more than 350,000 baht for it. It's never needed anything other than regular service and it still gets about 15 kilometers per liter. It's not for sale but I have seen them from 2000 to 2004 priced from 180,000 to 350,000 baht.

[sgunn65]

Its not going to help but I wanted to share this. I went looking for a cheap pick up this week as we have moved to a rural area and need 2 cars.

I went to a showroom and my wife warned me that I would get farang prices. She was right but I dont want to buy something without trying it.

I asked the price of an old pick up which the salesman assured me was ABOUT 7 years old. It looked 10 years old minimum and the price was 275,000. I then looked at another one which was about 5 years old. This worked out to a shade under 500,000. My wife said to him that we could buy a new one for the same price and he agreed with a smile on his face!!!

So we went to Mitsubishi where I got a new 4 door triton with mag alloys and low profile tyres, body kit ,tinting ,CD liner and 40,000 kms of free servicing for 580,000. We had to walk away after leaving our phone number but they called us back within 5 minutes. Ok its not a cheap pick up but at 9K a month with a 15% deposit it makes a lot of sense to me.

What surpised me was the 2.5 diesel engine was very nippy and the drive felt like a car. As I normally drive the new 2.4i CRV I was expecting much less.

[Smithson]

Thanks, any recommendation on a good model in that price range?

I have a 2004 Nissan, Frontier 3.0 ZDI King Cab. I doubt I could get more than 350,000 baht for it. It's never needed anything other than regular service and it still gets about 15 kilometers per liter. It's not for sale but I have seen them from 2000 to 2004 priced from 180,000 to 350,000 baht.

Thanks Gary, I must of been typing while you posted. How is the car to drive? I've hired a Vigo and a Tiger, the Vigo was nice to drive and the Tiger horrible. There was B200 difference in the rental price, but the Tiger used a heap more juice which made it quite a bit more expensive. If I can find a Frontier for hire I'll try it.

What about car auctions? I know it's chancy, but buying any second hand car is. I'm told there's a heap of auctions in Chonburi and most of the cars are repossessions. I was considering paying a mechanic friend to come with me and check them out.

Also, everything seems to be done by monthly payments. I have the cash and don't want to pay it off, but I'm not sure if I'd be saving much?

[MrEarl]

For that price you're looking at a 3-4 year old Ford Ranger with the 2.5 liter turbo diesel engine. Tough, reliable and much more economical than the Toyota or Isuzu pigs.

[Plus]

If you are concerned about economy, look at the engines. Tigers had 3 engine choices, from really thirsty 3.0l SR5 to really frugal 2.5l D4D. This one is carried over to current 2.5l Vigos while 3l D4D was a complete change from Tigers.

D4D are KD series, SR5 are KZ, if you want to search for specs.

Isuzu engines appear to be the worst when it comes to aging.

[Gary A]

Thanks, any recommendation on a good model in that price range?

I have a 2004 Nissan, Frontier 3.0 ZDI King Cab. I doubt I could get more than 350,000 baht for it. It's never needed anything other than regular service and it still gets about 15 kilometers per liter. It's not for sale but I have seen them from 2000 to 2004 priced from 180,000 to 350,000 baht.

Thanks Gary, I must of been typing while you posted. How is the car to drive? I've hired a Vigo and a Tiger, the Vigo was nice to drive and the Tiger horrible. There was B200 difference in the rental price, but the Tiger used a heap more juice which made it quite a bit more expensive. If I can find a Frontier for hire I'll try it.

What about car auctions? I know it's chancy, but buying any second hand car is. I'm told there's a heap of auctions in Chonburi and most of the cars are repossessions. I was considering paying a mechanic friend to come with me and check them out.

Also, everything seems to be done by monthly payments. I have the cash and don't want to pay it off, but I'm not sure if I'd be saving much?

Actually I had a Toyota 2002 4X4 that drove like a log wagon where the Nissan was quick and nimble compared to the Toyota. Maybe the new Toyota Vigos are much better but the 2002 Tiger I had was a piece of sh!t. It is not an honest comparison but the 4X4 Tiger got 10.5 kilometers per liter and the Nissan gets 15. I know nothing about auctions but Thai Visa Classifieds has a couple of Frontiers that sound quite interesting.

Plus has always disputed my posts but next week I am going to make a 650 kilometer trip to Jomtien and anyone is welcome to make the trip with me. Just a little friendly wager of 10,000 baht to prove my point.

[phutoie2]

Mitsubishi Strada's are bullet proof and plenty of old ones about. (L200). Likewise the non turbo 2.7 Nissan Frontier, I traded my old one in for the new Navara but sometimes wonder!

Up the route 21 into Petchabun city there are stacks of pickups for sale, all look nice and shiny and in good nick, just be aware they have spent their lifetimes going to Bangkok everyday loaded with cabbages etc.

[Smithson]

Mitsubishi Strada's are bullet proof and plenty of old ones about. (L200). Likewise the non turbo 2.7 Nissan Frontier, I traded my old one in for the new Navara but sometimes wonder!

Up the route 21 into Petchabun city there are stacks of pickups for sale, all look nice and shiny and in good nick, just be aware they have spent their lifetimes going to Bangkok everyday loaded with cabbages etc.

Thanks for the advice. Alot of ppl mention to beware of how much hauling a pick up has been used for, but they should be OK because this is what they were made for (as long as it's not too much).

In 1975 my dad bought a Toyota Hiace, I think it was the first model they made. He was a builder and all the other tradesmen thought he was crazy buying a 1600cc japanese car. The van lasted close to 20 yrs and could take amazing loads, much better than the pick ups around at the time.

These days almost all tradesmen in Aust drive Japanese vans.

The Ranger deisel turbo sounds good, should be economical and still have decent power. How about converting it to LPG and some stage, worth considering?

[Gary A]

Unfortunately the older Fords had a well deserved reputation for being diesel fuel hogs. Since the new generation diesel came along, that problem has has been eliminated. I wouldn't buy a Ford unless it has the new generation common rail diesel. I think Nissan was the economy champion until about 2005 when Isuzu took over.

[Smithson]

Unfortunately the older Fords had a well deserved reputation for being diesel fuel hogs. Since the new generation diesel came along, that problem has has been eliminated. I wouldn't buy a Ford unless it has the new generation common rail diesel. I think Nissan was the economy champion until about 2005 when Isuzu took over.

Thanks Gary, any opinion on car auctions? Too risky?

[MrEarl]

Rule of thumb for auctions:

"not every car at the auction is bad, but every bad car is at the auction."

Auctions are for knowledgeable buyers. And even a knowledgeable buyer gets stung once in a while at the auctions.

[ignis]

For that price you're looking at a 3-4 year old Ford Ranger with the 2.5 liter turbo diesel engine. Tough, reliable and much more economical than the Toyota or Isuzu pigs.

Beware of the cam chaft breaking..... Very big problem on the Ford if it breaks = new engine [Ford know this is a problem but will do nothing about it]

Everyone I know that has one had this failure around 100,000 km... Next door his broke at 103,000km, now has a Vigo and hates it.

Also another big problem is the price of the filters ALL are a very high price = a very high service cost.. [eg: Isuzu Air Filter 189 baht, Ranger is 1,320baht !! etc etc]

[ignis]

Rule of thumb for auctions:

"not every car at the auction is bad, but every bad car is at the auction."

Auctions are for knowledgeable buyers. And even a knowledgeable buyer gets stung once in a while at the auctions.

Auctions you may find this is better....

http://www.2fellows.com/portfolio/link/ge/.../auto/auto.html

[Gary A]

Unfortunately the older Fords had a well deserved reputation for being diesel fuel hogs. Since the new generation diesel came along, that problem has has been eliminated. I wouldn't buy a Ford unless it has the new generation common rail diesel. I think Nissan was the economy champion until about 2005 when Isuzu took over.

Thanks Gary, any opinion on car auctions? Too risky?

I'm sure there are some good vehicles sold but you need to have an expert look them over. If I were going to but a second hand vehicle, I'd look to buy from a farang or a Thai who bought the vehicle new and has all the service records. My Nissan is out of warranty but I still have it serviced by Nissan and have all the records.

Before I bought the new Nissan I looked for a long time for a used truck. I found a Toyota at a Pattaya dealer that was just what I wanted. The price was right and the truck looked mint. I noticed some wear on the driver's side seat and wear on the pedals. Supposedly it had 46,000 kilometers on it. I had looked at another Toyota that had over 100,000 kilometers on it. It didn't show that much wear. I insisted on having the service records since it should have still been under warranty. NO HAVE. I went from there to the Nissan dealer and bought the new Nissan.

[Smithson]

Unfortunately the older Fords had a well deserved reputation for being diesel fuel hogs. Since the new generation diesel came along, that problem has has been eliminated. I wouldn't buy a Ford unless it has the new generation common rail diesel. I think Nissan was the economy champion until about 2005 when Isuzu took over.

Thanks Gary, any opinion on car auctions? Too risky?

I'm sure there are some good vehicles sold but you need to have an expert look them over. If I were going to but a second hand vehicle, I'd look to buy from a farang or a Thai who bought the vehicle new and has all the service records. My Nissan is out of warranty but I still have it serviced by Nissan and have all the records.

Before I bought the new Nissan I looked for a long time for a used truck. I found a Toyota at a Pattaya dealer that was just what I wanted. The price was right and the truck looked mint. I noticed some wear on the driver's side seat and wear on the pedals. Supposedly it had 46,000 kilometers on it. I had looked at another Toyota that had over 100,000 kilometers on it. It didn't show that much wear. I insisted on having the service records since it should have still been under warranty. NO HAVE. I went from there to the Nissan dealer and bought the new Nissan.

I'm actually now leaning toward buying a new car and paying it off. Second hand car purchases seem to be a real headache. New cars hold their value and there's little savings between paying all at once or paying it off. Or have I been wrongly informed?

[sibeymai]

You'll pay around 20% more in total cost if you finance the car over 4 years. Depending on how much deposit you pay of course.

You'll also loose 15-20% off what you paid as soon as you leave the showroom.

[Smithson]

You'll pay around 20% more in total cost if you finance the car over 4 years. Depending on how much deposit you pay of course.

You'll also loose 15-20% off what you paid as soon as you leave the showroom.

I'm not sure about the first part, but if you can find a car that's 1 - 2 weeks old that's 15-20% less than the new price pls let me know. The 2nd hand pick-ups seem to be expensive, especially when you consider there's always a risk involved, no matter where you bought them. New cars have better handling and fuel economy.

I have the cash for a 300K 2nd hand car, but am thinking it may be better to put it into my business and pay off a new car instead.

[Gary A]

Unfortunately the older Fords had a well deserved reputation for being diesel fuel hogs. Since the new generation diesel came along, that problem has has been eliminated. I wouldn't buy a Ford unless it has the new generation common rail diesel. I think Nissan was the economy champion until about 2005 when Isuzu took over.

Thanks Gary, any opinion on car auctions? Too risky?

I'm sure there are some good vehicles sold but you need to have an expert look them over. If I were going to but a second hand vehicle, I'd look to buy from a farang or a Thai who bought the vehicle new and has all the service records. My Nissan is out of warranty but I still have it serviced by Nissan and have all the records.

Before I bought the new Nissan I looked for a long time for a used truck. I found a Toyota at a Pattaya dealer that was just what I wanted. The price was right and the truck looked mint. I noticed some wear on the driver's side seat and wear on the pedals. Supposedly it had 46,000 kilometers on it. I had looked at another Toyota that had over 100,000 kilometers on it. It didn't show that much wear. I insisted on having the service records since it should have still been under warranty. NO HAVE. I went from there to the Nissan dealer and bought the new Nissan.

I'm actually now leaning toward buying a new car and paying it off. Second hand car purchases seem to be a real headache. New cars hold their value and there's little savings between paying all at once or paying it off. Or have I been wrongly informed?

Sometimes Ford offers interest free purchase plans. I bought my 2007 Focus that way. Ford is only second to Isuzu as far as fuel economy.

[Smithson]

Sometimes Ford offers interest free purchase plans. I bought my 2007 Focus that way. Ford is only second to Isuzu as far as fuel economy.

What's the price of a new new Ranger turbo diesel. Do you need a large deposit when you're when your buying with finance?

[Gary A]

Sometimes Ford offers interest free purchase plans. I bought my 2007 Focus that way. Ford is only second to Isuzu as far as fuel economy.

What's the price of a new new Ranger turbo diesel. Do you need a large deposit when you're when your buying with finance?

That I can't answer because I traded in that piece of sh!t Toyota. I would have been ashamed to sell it to anyone.

Added - From their web site;

20 percent down but unfortunately the 0 percent interest deal expired April 30th.

[Gary A]

From Ford Thailand web site.

Series Engine Transmission Retail Price

Ranger Standard Cab 2.5L XL Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 497,000

Ranger Open-Cab 2.5L XL Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 536,000

Ranger Open-Cab 2.5L XLS Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 579,000

Ranger Open-Cab 2.5L XLS LIMITED(Leather Seats) Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 608,000

Ranger Open-Cab Hi-rider 2.5L XLS Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 633,000

Ranger Open-Cab Hi-rider 2.5L XLS LIMITED (Leather Seats) Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 660,000

Ranger Open-Cab Hi-rider 3.0L XLT Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 697,000

Ranger Open-Cab 3.0L 4WD XLS Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 703,000

Ranger Open-Cab 3.0L 4WD XLT Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 748,000

Ranger Double-Cab 2.5L XL Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 597,000

Ranger Double-Cab 2.5L XLS Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 650,000

Ranger Double-Cab Hi-rider 2.5L XLS Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 691,000

Ranger Double-Cab Hi-rider 2.5L XLT 5AT Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed automatic Retail price from THB 769,000

Ranger Double-Cab 3.0L 4WD XLT Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 847,000

Ranger Double-Cab 3.0L 4WD XLT 5AT Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed automatic Retail price from THB 887,000

New Ford Ranger Wildtrak Price List

Series Engine Transmission Retail Price

New Wildtrak Open-Cab Hi-Rider 2.5L XLS Limited (Leather Seats) Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 693,000

New Wildtrak Double-Cab Hi-Rider 2.5L XLT Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed automatic Retail price from THB 804,000

New Wildtrak Double-Cab 3.0L 4WD XLT Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed manual Retail price from THB 882,000

New Wildtrak Double-Cab 3.0L 4WD XLT Duratorq TDCi

(Turbo Diesel Commonrail Injection) 5-speed automatic Retail price from THB 917,000

[ignis]

At this moment for May 'Offers' are on all makes of Trucks

eg:

Isuzu OpenCab SX 'Gold Series' 5% deposit and 6,xxx month @ 1.39% also this deal is shown on TV everyday'

Colorado 10% deposit and 0% Interest

Go into any news agents and pick up a book 60 baht, there full of deals on new Truck/Cars

Teachers have the best Deals 0% deposit + 84months @ 0% interest

Ford always have Deals, so yes the 30th April deals have ended but there is sure to be another deal

[Smithson]

Sometimes Ford offers interest free purchase plans. I bought my 2007 Focus that way. Ford is only second to Isuzu as far as fuel economy.

What's the price of a new new Ranger turbo diesel. Do you need a large deposit when you're when your buying with finance?

That I can't answer because I traded in that piece of sh!t Toyota. I would have been ashamed to sell it to anyone.

What was the problem with the toyota? My family had a few, all very reliable, but that was 20yrs ago, I think the company is now riding on the name it built up last century. A mechanic told me the new pick ups aren't as strong as the old ones. Maybe becoming more of a family car than a work vehicle?

[Gary A]

Sometimes Ford offers interest free purchase plans. I bought my 2007 Focus that way. Ford is only second to Isuzu as far as fuel economy.

What's the price of a new new Ranger turbo diesel. Do you need a large deposit when you're when your buying with finance?

That I can't answer because I traded in that piece of sh!t Toyota. I would have been ashamed to sell it to anyone.

What was the problem with the toyota? My family had a few, all very reliable, but that was 20yrs ago, I think the company is now riding on the name it built up last century. A mechanic told me the new pick ups aren't as strong as the old ones. Maybe becoming more of a family car than a work vehicle?

I don't have enough time to tell you about all the problems. That was my third Toyota pickup. The first one was great. the second one was not as good but still OK. The third one was a 2002 4X4 4 door top of the line. It could never be trusted. Mostly electrical problems but the radiator sprung a huge leak and there was one serious oil leak. The last problem was with the starter or something to do with the starter. Sometimes it would just click when trying to start it. Toyota could find nothing wrong with it. The ABS braking system had problems, the power windows had problems. The air bag warning light would not go off. The oil pressure idiot light would flash on and off. Maybe just a lemon but that was my last Toyota. Toyota was able to fix everything except the starter problem and the ABS. They couldn't find anything wrong. I felt guilty trying to sell it to an individual so I traded it in to the Ford dealer.