August 10, 200817 yr Index sold mrs an oven hob and fan set Oven has only 3 thick wires. Whtas the best plug and any suppliers up North I am in rural C Rai but visit M Sai and C Mai often
August 10, 200817 yr You might want to check and see if that oven is 3-phase or not. 3 thick wires sounds suspect. If not then Amorn in Chiangmai should have what you need. Don't know if CR has a branch or not.
August 10, 200817 yr Three wires will be Phase, Neutral and Earth. If it were 3 phase i would expect it to have 4 wires. Should use a 20 amp plug to wall and minimum 1.5mm copper wire to fuse board.
August 10, 200817 yr Check the labelling on the connectors, likely L, N & E, Live Neutral and Earth. They may be coloured Red or Brown (live), Blue or Black (neutral) and Green or Green/Yellow (earth), colour codes here http://www.crossy.co.uk/wiring/colour%20codes.html The oven nominally will draw 10.5A or thereabouts so it could be plugged into a regular outlet. BUT! IMHO it's best to wire direct to its own 20A breaker, use a minimum of 2.5mm2 cable for this purpose, 1.5mm2, whilst rated at 15A is marginal in the high ambient temperatures here. NOTE If your hob is electric it is going to need a rather bigger supply than 20A, check the rating plate before installing anything "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
August 10, 200817 yr Check the labelling on the connectors, likely L, N & E, Live Neutral and Earth. They may be coloured Red or Brown (live), Blue or Black (neutral) and green or green/yellow (earth), colour codes here http://www.crossy.co.uk/wiring/colour%20codes.htmlThe oven nominally will draw 10.5A or thereabouts so it could be plugged into a regular outlet. BUT! IMHO it's best to wire direct to its own 20A breaker, use a minimum of 2.5mm2 cable for this purpose, 1.5mm2, whilst rated at 15A is marginal in the high ambient temperatures here. NOTE If your hob is electric it is going to need a MUCH bigger supply than 20A, check the rating plate before installing anything Thanks for pointing out ambient temperature..... Not something I ever considered living so close to Antarctica... lol Cheers Crossy
August 10, 200817 yr Author As the hob is also 4 electric rings we have done a seperate 30 amp circuit to the breaker on the board. I hope to find a suitable plug,as nearly all high rated Thai appliances inc hob come with a sealed plug unit Thank everyone for your inputs A supplier in C Rai would be helpful.
August 11, 200817 yr As the hob is also 4 electric rings we have done a seperate 30 amp circuit to the breaker on the board.I hope to find a suitable plug,as nearly all high rated Thai appliances inc hob come with a sealed plug unit Thank everyone for your inputs A supplier in C Rai would be helpful. If your units have plugs, please post photos so we can determine the types and availability of suitable outlets in Thailand. But I still recommend direct wiring rather than plug/socket connections, your oven can share the supply you've got for the hob if it's near enough. "I don't want to know why you can't. I want to know how you can!"
August 20, 200817 yr I agree with Crossy. Try to avoid a plug & socket in this situation. I would install a 20 amp National Breaker under the hob someplace & wire to that. Just twist the grounds together & use wire nut or equiv.
August 20, 200817 yr Three wires will be Phase, Neutral and Earth. If it were 3 phase i would expect it to have 4 wires.Should use a 20 amp plug to wall and minimum 1.5mm copper wire to fuse board. Yes you right 3 Phase has 4 wires I am not an electrician but I never seen 3 phase with just 3 wires. All my machines back in OZ had 3 phase and they had a minimum of 4 to 5 wires.
August 20, 200817 yr As I mentioned before I am not an expert on electrical things but I always thought 3 phase needs to have a current of 440 volts not just 220 volts.
August 20, 200817 yr Yes you right 3 Phase has 4 wires I am not an electrician but I never seen 3 phase with just 3 wires. All my machines back in OZ had 3 phase and they had a minimum of 4 to 5 wires. That is correct and I misspoke myself in my previous post. Normally it would be RSTN for commercial/domestic appliances. Some industrial applications may use only RST. I had just finished a 3 phase 200 amp rectifier design which only requires RST and neutral is not needed. Late night. Also 220/380 volts is three phase in Thailand.
August 20, 200817 yr 3 Phase will have 3 live coming into your premises PLUS one neutral & hopefully one ground. For a total of 5.
August 20, 200817 yr I'll bet money his hob is single phase. Brown is live Blue is Neutral & Green is ground.
August 20, 200817 yr If you are right that the total is 2.3 kW. Multiply by 1000 = 2300 watt divide by 230 volt (split the difference) = 10 amps. Not a super high load. I would want 4 mm wires running back to my load center. I would not use a plug at all. Hard wire it. You did add an oven in the body of your post. Find out the total combined maximum wattage & wire accordingly. Hob + Oven + Exhaust Fan
August 21, 200817 yr Residential 3 phase from the meter to the consumer panel is 4 wire----3 load and one neutral
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