Harry:

This was my explanation for using somewhat dated material:

"Sadly I have been unable to find any references to quotable people from New Zealand. Even their politicians are afflicted with the absence of personality."

I see you are still unable to overcome that old reading disability.

Don't talk to me about being old, chucky.

So now you suggest that the quotes of your leaders showing them to be dim are due to abundance of personality? That is the best spin I have ever heard.....You should send the idea to Sarah Palin's PR manager.

:cheesy:

Here are a few quotes about Kiwiland. I hope you enjoy them, Harry.

Sadly I have been unable to find any references to quotable people from New Zealand. Even their politicians are afflicted with the absence of personality.

For the first time in my life, I find myself agreeing with Lenin.

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New Zealand quotes

"I got to dress up in funny clothes and run around New Zealand with a bow and arrow for 18 months, how bad could that be?"

Orlando Bloom quotes (English Actor, b.1977)

"New Zealand is a country of thirty thousand million sheep, three million of whom think they are human."

Barry Humphries quotes ( Writer, Actor and Comic, b.1934)

"I've never been to New Zealand before. But one of my role models, Xena, the warrior princess, comes from there."

Madeleine Albright quotes

"If an English butler and an English nanny sat down to design a country, they would come up with New Zealand"

A country of inveterate, backwoods, thick-headed, egotistic philistines"...Vladimir Ilyich Lenin 1909

"I believe we were all glad to leave New Zealand. It is not a pleasant place. Amongst the natives there is absent that charming simplicity .... and the greater part of the English are the very refuse of society." ....... Charles Darwin 1860

"If it would not look too much like showing off, I would tell the reader where New Zealand is." ....... Mark Twain 1897

"The first european to find NZ was a Dutch sea-captain who was looking for something else ... It takes its name from a province of Holland to which it does not bear the remotest likeness, and is usually regarded as the antipodes of England, but is not. Taken possession of by an English navigator, whose action was afterwards reversed by his country's rulers, it was only annexed by the English Government which did not want it, to keep it from the French who did."....... William Pember Reeves 1898

When George Bernard Shaw visited New Zealand a reporter asked him his impression of the place and, after a pause, Shaw is said to have replied: "Altogether too many sheep" ....... George Bernard Shaw 1934

"Terrible tragedy of the south seas. Three million people trapped alive." ....... Thomas Jefferson Scott

When asked his opinion of New Zealand: "I find it hard to say, because when I was there it seemed to be shut." ....... Sir Clement Freud 1978

Quotes from over a century ago

..Back when new Zealand was still relevant! :cheesy:

Maggie Thatcher in her day would wipe the floor with all of them........................

I know you probably don’t think I appreciate all the work that went into posting all of those quotes from GW. But I do.

During most of GW two terms I was on a retreat of sorts in Thailand and did not speak to anyone who spoke English nor did I watch English speaking TV.

I left this all Thai society about three years ago. So there is a gap in my knowledge about current events.

Thank you for the update.

Maggie Thatcher in her day would wipe the floor with all of them........................

Certainly, that would be her truer calling. Cleaning floors.

Maggie Thatcher in her day would wipe the floor with all of them........................

Certainly, that would be her truer calling. Cleaning floors.

No, that would be you............

No. I've had to edit this. I take it back. I should never lower myself into petty bickering................Sorry.

Reagan wasn't too sharp either. Goodness gracious!

Reagan not too sharp? Sure, that's what he wanted you to think.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=skQuhoG7fFM

RR was a clever man.

He knew his limitations and surrounded himself with the best available, whilst never losing control or face.......................Nobodies fool

Here is bit comparing how fluidly Bush spoke in 1994 to how seriously messed he was ten years later. I doubt any of the non-Americans here have ever heard Bush speak so fast and clearly before. This is an anti-Bush video, but it does show that he isn't an idiot, but instead that he likely has some medical problem.

Here is bit comparing how fluidly Bush spoke in 1994 to how seriously messed he was ten years later. I doubt any of the non-Americans here have ever heard Bush speak so fast and clearly before. This is an anti-Bush video, but it does show that he isn't an idiot, but instead that he likely has some medical problem.

Yes, the case for presenile dementia.

You need to correct your tense. "Isn't" or "wasn't" an idiot?

Doesn't it seem incongruous that a self proclaimed meat inspector is calling a two term President of the US an idiot?

An unemployed self proclaimed meat inspector.

A flaming meat inspector by the looks of things.

As often as he gets edited for flaming, I'm surprised he isn't on holiday.

A flaming meat inspector by the looks of things.

As often as he gets edited for flaming, I'm surprised he isn't on holiday.

I am not edited often. That is a lie, so you are a liar. You have a very dishonest way with words, spinning things into what they are not.

Doesn't it seem incongruous that a self proclaimed meat inspector is calling a two term President of the US an idiot?

That the VIT is an idiot is accepted by most people. An idiot could never become a meat inspector as it is a bit too academic, at least it was when I trained and qualified in NZ. Maybe US meat inspectors are not all that bright?

Doesn't it seem incongruous that a self proclaimed meat inspector is calling a two term President of the US an idiot?

That the VIT is an idiot is accepted by most people. An idiot could never become a meat inspector as it is a bit too academic, at least it was when I trained and qualified in NZ. Maybe US meat inspectors are not all that bright?

Meat inspector = nuclear physicist

As they say in Thailand...same, same, but different. :cheesy:

A flaming meat inspector by the looks of things.

As often as he gets edited for flaming, I'm surprised he isn't on holiday.

I am not edited often. That is a lie, so you are a liar. You have a very dishonest way with words, spinning things into what they are not.

Certainly more often than anyone else here. Maybe even just last week for the "old age" attack?

I don't see why you had to flame me for posting that video of Bush in the first place. It was an ANTI-Bush video. I didn't see what you wrote flaming me but I would think you would have approved of me posting it.

A flaming meat inspector by the looks of things.

As often as he gets edited for flaming, I'm surprised he isn't on holiday.

I am not edited often. That is a lie, so you are a liar. You have a very dishonest way with words, spinning things into what they are not.

Certainly more often than anyone else here. Maybe even just last week for the "old age" attack?

I don't see why you had to flame me for posting that video of Bush in the first place. It was an ANTI-Bush video. I didn't see what you wrote flaming me but I would think you would have approved of me posting it.

I have not been informed of any editing for a long time, certainly not last week, and certainly not for an "old age" attack.

I am also certain, being used to your ways, that that was a disingenuous post designed to draw attention to a previous post of mine.

Doesn't it seem incongruous that a self proclaimed meat inspector is calling a two term President of the US an idiot?

That the VIT is an idiot is accepted by most people. An idiot could never become a meat inspector as it is a bit too academic, at least it was when I trained and qualified in NZ. Maybe US meat inspectors are not all that bright?

Meat inspector = nuclear physicist

As they say in Thailand...same, same, but different. :cheesy:

Where is "Meat inspector = nuclear physicist" stated or even implied?

You try to heap ridicule upon me and have to draw on fantastic spin to do so.

Carry on. You only discredit yourself.

I don't see why you had to flame me for posting that video of Bush in the first place. It was an ANTI-Bush video. I didn't see what you wrote flaming me but I would think you would have approved of me posting it.

I am also certain, being used to your ways, that that was a disingenuous post designed to draw attention to a previous post of mine.

Disingenuous? The Bush video? How so? I obviously wasn't trying to be anti-Bush. I was countering the claims that he is an idiot by showing that he hasn't always sounded like an idiot. And the proof that I posted wasn't from some right wing pro-GWB site, but just the opposite. What's so disingenuous about that? I think it just may be that having been proven wrong so clearly, you became angry and retreated into attack mode.

I don't see why you had to flame me for posting that video of Bush in the first place. It was an ANTI-Bush video. I didn't see what you wrote flaming me but I would think you would have approved of me posting it.

I am also certain, being used to your ways, that that was a disingenuous post designed to draw attention to a previous post of mine.

Disingenuous? The Bush video? How so? I obviously wasn't trying to be anti-Bush. I was countering the claims that he is an idiot by showing that he hasn't always sounded like an idiot. And the proof that I posted wasn't from some right wing pro-GWB site, but just the opposite. What's so disingenuous about that? I think it just may be that having been proven wrong so clearly, you became angry and retreated into attack mode.

I did not become angry, and I did not retreat. Any "attack" that I have made is only a response.

Disingenuous, yes. The Bush video no. Your post that I quoted....duh.

But while we're on the subject of your disingenuousness.....lets talk about the Bush video you posted in which post you stated "shows Bush isn't an idiot" (or words to that effect), and your words quoted above. Here we have you changing your supposed intent and your stance. Transparent disingenuousness.

You try to heap ridicule upon me and have to draw on fantastic spin to do so.

It is much easier to just quote almost any of your posts.

I don't see why you had to flame me for posting that video of Bush in the first place. It was an ANTI-Bush video. I didn't see what you wrote flaming me but I would think you would have approved of me posting it.

I am also certain, being used to your ways, that that was a disingenuous post designed to draw attention to a previous post of mine.

Disingenuous? The Bush video? How so? I obviously wasn't trying to be anti-Bush. I was countering the claims that he is an idiot by showing that he hasn't always sounded like an idiot. And the proof that I posted wasn't from some right wing pro-GWB site, but just the opposite. What's so disingenuous about that? I think it just may be that having been proven wrong so clearly, you became angry and retreated into attack mode.

I did not become angry, and I did not retreat. Any "attack" that I have made is only a response.

Disingenuous, yes. The Bush video no. Your post that I quoted....duh.

Yet your flame was edited out in your reply to the video, wasn't it? Nevermind, rhetorical question.

If this is getting boring for me, I hate to think how some of our fellow posters feel. ONCE again, you've managed to drag me into something that goes on way, way too long. It's probably safe to say I'll never learn - at least I haven't since I came here in November. Why is it that in every back-and-forth situation like this on this forum, you are the one common denominator? BTW - That's another rhetorical question.