Remove The Democrats, Reds Told

[Lite Beer]

Remove the Democrats, reds told

The Nation on Sunday

BANGKOK: -- Pheu Thai MP and red-shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn yesterday called on fellow red shirts to eradicate the Democrat Party.

"Come out and launch a political fight to eradicate the Democrat Party from the Thai political platform. The Democrats have breached parliamentary regulations such as defying Parliament President Somsak Kiatsura-nont during the House meeting and taking his chair away. Such behaviour is tantamount to destroying democracy and the Constitution," Weng said on the stage at the "Pheu Thai, the Truth for Democracy" event.

Pheu Thai and Democrat parties yesterday attacked each other at separate rallies.

Late in the afternoon, Pheu Thai staged a rally at Chalerm Phra Kiat Park opposite Min Buri district office, the exact place where the Democrats spoke to supporters a day earlier.

Meanwhile, many Demo-crats including Songkhla MP Thaworn Senneam and former foreign minister Kasit Piromya spoke in Yala's Muang district. Topics included the government's alleged unfair treatment of flood victims and violence who were eligible to receive compensation, and low prices for agricultural products and rubber, despite rising commodities prices. They also spoke on how the government-sponsored reconciliation bill and the constitutional amendment would hurt the country.

Deputy Agriculture Minister Natthawut Saikua said yesterday that both the major political parties should hold rallies as none of the parties would be able to make up stories, as people could consider whether what is said is true.

-- The Nation 2012-06-17

[Buchholz]

Pheu Thai MP and red-shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn yesterday called on fellow red shirts to eradicate the Democrat Party.

When a group with a lengthy history of violence calls for the eradication of its opponents, this sort of provocative rhetoric from one of their leaders is rather chilling... and reminiscent of their early threats of violence and arson.

eradicate or exterminate?

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Edited June 16, 2012 by Buchholz

[jonclark]

Pheu Thai MP and red-shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn yesterday called on fellow red shirts to eradicate the Democrat Party.

When a group with a lengthy history of violence calls for the eradication of its opponents, this sort of provocative rhetoric from one of their leaders is rather chilling... and reminiscent of their early threats of violence and arson.

eradicate or exterminate?

.

Nah - Its eradication not reconciliation as the new PTP line. I love the smell of bulls**t in the morning

[KKvampire]

Typical of UDD and PTP.they want no opposition .no political party to challenge ideas of terror hate economic incompetence .at the moment there are still enough educated people in the country to see them for what they are, a danger to Thailands future stability .I

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Edited June 17, 2012 by sbk
unacceptable reference removed

[Moruya]

"Truth for Democracy event"

Destroy the opposition.

Says it all really. Well done Weng

[Thaddeus]

Bunch of children.

[Crushdepth]

Come out and launch a political fight to eradicate the Democrat Party from the Thai political platform.

Weng, an "ex" communist, advocating 'single party democracy'. But I'm sure he was joking...

Edited June 17, 2012 by Crushdepth

[phl]

It is very nice that Pheu Thai MP and red-shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn REALLY want to reconcile.

[Yunla]

"Remove the democrats". Or why not just "remove democracy". Instead show allegiance to Thaksin and his whole family most of whom are already in high office politics and business, accept our future leader son of Thaksin, the male heir of our illustrious Leader. There is no need for democratic debate or dissent. Our supreme leader would never sell us out to any other world power, is a true patriotic Thai even though he and his sister are third generation Chinese, the red imagery, agrarian revolution speeches and big demagogue photos of Thaksin everywhere are just a coincidence and are nothing to do with Maoism at all. There will be no forced labour camps under Thaksin's familial oligarchy police-state. Be sure that redmob will never arrest people for dissenting, or hand out home addresses of dissenters to their bootboys. Admire Thaksin for his courage even though he ran away from a short comfortable jail-term. Trust him even though he stole billions from the Thai State and therefor from Thailand's poorest.

Redmob don't want Democrats, democratic debate nor accountability, or even democracy itself. They want autocratic rule. Redmob leadership is the chrysalis of a future tyranny.

Edited June 17, 2012 by Yunla

[KKvampire]

Kind of agree with you. But I'd like to point the hypocrisy of the Democrats. They were happy to have the PAD to kick out TRT when they were unable to do it through democratic ways. Then when they thought they have things under control they ditched the PAD (hence the vote "NO"). But recently they were again happy to side with the PAD. At least there is more honesty in the alliance UDD/PT.

My remark is not out of context. It's the PAD, with the help of the Democrats, who first use party dissolution as a way to get rid of their opponents. You need to put the current facts in their historical perspective to understand what's going on. That's why I said the PAD supporters, and the Democrats are closet PAD supporters, now have to taste the bitter taste of their own medicine.

"At least there is more honesty in the alliance UDD/PT "

how many times did you mention PAD? Know where you are coming from

Edited June 17, 2012 by KKvampire

[OzMick]

Kind of agree with you. But I'd like to point the hypocrisy of the Democrats. They were happy to have the PAD to kick out TRT when they were unable to do it through democratic ways. Then when they thought they have things under control they ditched the PAD (hence the vote "NO"). But recently they were again happy to side with the PAD. At least there is more honesty in the alliance UDD/PT.

My remark is not out of context. It's the PAD, with the help of the Democrats, who first use party dissolution as a way to get rid of their opponents. You need to put the current facts in their historical perspective to understand what's going on. That's why I said the PAD supporters, and the Democrats are closet PAD supporters, now have to taste the bitter taste of their own medicine.

TRT - "The party was dissolved on May 30, 2007 by the order of the Constitutional Tribunal for violation of election laws."

Read that quote and try to comprehend it. Note the total absence of the words PAD and Democrats. Try to understand that PAD and the Democrats are separate identities which sometimes share a common goal, without the incestuous inbreeding of PTP and UDD.

Then you may have a far better historical perspective.

[siampolee]

And here we see and hear the rhetoric of the Communist Party of China and also the same rhetoric as used by Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, no doubt part of Wengs master plan will be the introduction of, 'Labour Camps,' so as those who do not follow his twisted agenda can be re-educated or exterminated..

There is a slippery slope and if the people of this country are not careful they will slide down that slope into a civil and political war scenario.

Weng peddles hate, nothing more nothing less, the eradication of an opposition movement is his desire and his road to indoctrination will be paved with the carcasses of his opponents, power at any price.

Everyone becomes a class enemy as per the rule book of the Communist Party led by Mao Tse Tung.in China and Pol Pot in Cambodia Family members pitted against each other at Wengs behest,.Indeed the, 'Killing Fields,' will yet again burst into bloom with their evil crop and its legacy if Weng has his way.

A mixture of violence, terror and political indoctrination is being foisted upon a group of people who have no idea of what the consequences of their actions might be. Inded Weng is an evil creature.

Weng fears as do his paymasters and his acolytes the traditional values and opposition by the population at large to their communist arrogance.Indeed the actions signify the resort as a last desperate tactic of frantic persecution of those with different ideals to Weng and his accomplices and their blind hatred and arrogance.

Soon we will see an extension of the reactions as the assorted Red Shirt factions and the P.T.P. start to treat each other as both class and political enemies.Such a reaction would indeed be beneficial as the pack will turn on its self and the feeding frenzy will destroy that pack, whatever remnants as may be left will vanish into obscurity.

The hatred that Weng espouses will come full circle and destroy him we can only but hope that that road to self destruction is a short straight one with no obstacles and twists and turns to extend the possibility of civil unrest.

I, like many others no doubt will await the comments from the puppet master in Dubai who is currently questioning the performance of some of the coalition members of this current maladministration and of course the comments of the P.T.P. regarding their stance on Wengs rhetoric.

Edited June 17, 2012 by siampolee

[Ricardo]

The adherents of 'true-democracy' and 'fighting for justice' have won an election, so now is the time to eradicate any party which refuses to form a coalition with them, or refuses to give a full-amnesty to whoever instigated the 2010-riots or caused the deaths.

Yay for Red-Democrazy !

and above-all, don't mention the long list of broken pre-election promises, bring on the bread-and-circuses instead !

Edited June 17, 2012 by Ricardo

[Moruya]

Kind of agree with you. But I'd like to point the hypocrisy of the Democrats. They were happy to have the PAD to kick out TRT when they were unable to do it through democratic ways. Then when they thought they have things under control they ditched the PAD (hence the vote "NO"). But recently they were again happy to side with the PAD. At least there is more honesty in the alliance UDD/PT.

My remark is not out of context. It's the PAD, with the help of the Democrats, who first use party dissolution as a way to get rid of their opponents. You need to put the current facts in their historical perspective to understand what's going on. That's why I said the PAD supporters, and the Democrats are closet PAD supporters, now have to taste the bitter taste of their own medicine.

When a schoolboy is found doing something bad and says "well Johnny did it too" adults cringe. Just accept that the people you have nailed your flag to are bad people

Edited June 17, 2012 by sbk
unacceptable derogatory comment removed.

[WtFugarwe]

Democrats haven't won an election in 30 years. Maybe the Thai people's voice should be respected?????

[PeaceBlondie]

PT 48

[OzMick]

"Pheu Thai, the Truth for Democracy" - very "1984" Orwell. Weng wouldn't know either Truth or Democracy even if they bit him on the bum.

"The Democrats have breached parliamentary regulations such as defying Parliament President Somsak Kiatsura-nont during the House meeting and taking his chair away. Such behaviour is tantamount to destroying democracy and the Constitution."

If it was a debate instead of a debacle, someone might have pointed out that it was rather insignificant compared to the weeks-long armed insurrection which Weng helped to organise 2 years ago.

[frodo]

"Pheu Thai, the Truth for Democracy" - very "1984" Orwell. Weng wouldn't know either Truth or Democracy even if they bit him on the bum.

"The Democrats have breached parliamentary regulations such as defying Parliament President Somsak Kiatsura-nont during the House meeting and taking his chair away. Such behaviour is tantamount to destroying democracy and the Constitution."

If it was a debate instead of a debacle, someone might have pointed out that it was rather insignificant compared to the weeks-long armed insurrection which Weng helped to organise 2 years ago.

Taking away a chair and throwing some paper in the air is now "...tantamount to destroying democracy and the Constitution." I can only wonder how Weng would define physically assaulting another MP. Perhaps wearing a red shirt gives a person entitlement to physically assault others with no repercussions. It certainly isn't looked down upon by Weng. No double standards at all.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2008/04/03/headlines/headlines_30069979.php

[geriatrickid]

More idiocy.

It's a shame Thais can't direct their energies to more useful activities.

I dunno, perhaps a UDD/PAD contest to clean up the trash at the beaches, or to restore the alleged forest reserves. Winner gets bragging rights as to who loves Thailand more.

[JurgenG]

A mixture of violence, terror and political indoctrination is being foisted upon a group of people who have no idea of what the consequences of their actions might be.

That's exactly what a number of us was saying early 2006.

[Bluespunk]

Using language such as eradicate when talking about your political opponents is not a happy sign. True the Democrats did lose it in parliament but to say that they are destroying democracy is nonsense. PT have a majority and eventually will get there way, but to drag the country in this direction before hand is insane.

Edited June 17, 2012 by Bluespunk

[OzMick]

A mixture of violence, terror and political indoctrination is being foisted upon a group of people who have no idea of what the consequences of their actions might be.

That's exactly what a number of us was saying early 2006.

While blaming the Democrats and the PAD.........................wrong every which way.

[Yunla]

A mixture of violence, terror and political indoctrination is being foisted upon a group of people who have no idea of what the consequences of their actions might be.

That's exactly what a number of us was saying early 2006.

But today is 2012, and unless you own a Time-Machine you aren't going to see 2006 again anytime soon.

Why not look at events today instead, the PTP government in power today, their bills to overturn supreme-court rulings, their refusal to engage in debate on all their policymaking, their refusal to discuss matters without scripting, telling opposition MPs to go hang themselves, and the PTP handing out home-addresses of dissidents to angry mobs. These are the events of 2012, and this is the despotic government we are all living under today.

Edited June 17, 2012 by Yunla

[whybother]

PT 48

Yes. Less that half "the people" voted for them. More than half didn't vote for them. So they can't really push through their whitewash policies with "but the people voted for us".

[Thaddeus]

Democrats haven't won an election in 30 years. Maybe the Thai people's voice should be respected?????

I would point out a small factual error there, but it wouldn't fit the propaganda you are being fed, so probably little point in doing so.

[whybother]

A mixture of violence, terror and political indoctrination is being foisted upon a group of people who have no idea of what the consequences of their actions might be.

That's exactly what a number of us was saying early 2006.

So, similarly, you are not supporting what the red shirts are suggesting?

[Thaddeus]

PT 48

Quite so.

But they don't want to hear that.

[theajarn]

Boo-hoo. They took away his chair. MOMMYYYYYYYY~!!!!!

[KKvampire]

Democrats haven't won an election in 30 years. Maybe the Thai people's voice should be respected?????

Umm and your point. They are not in government, so the "Thai people's voice" is? Eradication. What country do you come from, Germany? , China or others who have the taste for "eradication"

Edited June 17, 2012 by KKvampire

[terry101]

I am looking into my crystal ball and all I can see is another Zimbabwe on the horison. If the circus is to carry on the way it is going now, this beautiful country will be become the laughing stock of Asia and this is all because of one man Mr Mugabe ooops I meant to say Taksin, then again there is no difference between the two