BirdsandBooze Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Congrats. It's not a lot of money to pay when you consider the entertainment you're going to get from it. People have been comparing horsepower per baht, but smiles per baht would be more appropriate. Don't forget to post some pics when you get a moment Thanks & yes that was the way I looked at it when I decided to go this route with the N250 Taking everything into consideration & what the majority of my riding here in Thailand would be....I also thought this was the best smiles per baht value. Having owned 600RR & 900RR's in the US but not in Thailand. I was not willing to pay the price they ask here for a grey import & what was available new again priced at silly money for me anyway compared to what I have always spent. Even a 2012/13 CBR1000RR in the US has a MSRP of $13,800 or roughly 423,000 THB Compared to here where you pay pretty much double that & now with the new tax maybe 2.5x? Ouch Will post some pics but basically like the ones I have posted already as it is stock Here it was at the dealer getting ready to come home I had mentioned in the cbr500 thread that I like the turn signals closer to the bike. I was happy to see Kawasaki incorporate these into the front fairing Looks smart with the black on the fairing. Nice and narrow too, so your mirrors are the bike`s whiskers. 1
macknife Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Congratz mania, I'm so jealous. I have a feeling the delivery of my Green/black one is still a long way off. Odd what you say about the kill switch on the side stand as I was under the impression it didn't have one. The new one I test rode at Kawa had no kill switch, I even talked about it with the manager/owner there. I've seen this mentioned on youtube aswell. I spoke to Shay at Kawa today too, he said he wasn't sure if the old price will be honoured or not, there will be some kind of meeting soon about this. Good that you got yours at the old price, even though it is after the new law, so that leaves me hopeful. 1
mania Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Congratz mania, I'm so jealous. I have a feeling the delivery of my Green/black one is still a long way off. Odd what you say about the kill switch on the side stand as I was under the impression it didn't have one. The new one I test rode at Kawa had no kill switch, I even talked about it with the manager/owner there. I've seen this mentioned on youtube aswell. I spoke to Shay at Kawa today too, he said he wasn't sure if the old price will be honoured or not, there will be some kind of meeting soon about this. Good that you got yours at the old price, even though it is after the new law, so that leaves me hopeful. Thanks Mac Yes for sure has the dead switch & works well. You know on your deposit, I know yours was before mine & mine was Dec 18th I believe the new law came out Dec 19th & does not go into effect till 2013 I would hope you get the old price too even if delivered in 2013 since your deposit was before Dec 19th Also if your deposit slip was like mine it had the total price on there of 158,500 so that may also be in your favor. Yes I was surprised to get that call today asking if I can pick up today. Hope yours comes fast too!
mania Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Looks smart with the black on the fairing. Nice and narrow too, so your mirrors are the bike`s whiskers. Thanks yeah I like this color even more now. The Red is also very deep & rich. I would not mind the whole thing in this red actually. Narrow yes & today was no problem threading thru cars at all.
karlos Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Congrats on the new bike. I was at Realmotorsport today (one Bangkok's Kwaker dealerships) and the bike looks stunning in all colours. My friend who works there bought on in black and grey for his girlfriend and added a nice Akapovic exhaust for her too. They are shifting a lot of units, yesterday they had 28 Ninja 250 outside their shop and today they had a delivery of 20+ 650s too. looking forward to hearing a 1000km review from you soon. 1
mania Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Congrats on the new bike. I was at Realmotorsport today (one Bangkok's Kwaker dealerships) and the bike looks stunning in all colours. My friend who works there bought on in black and grey for his girlfriend and added a nice Akapovic exhaust for her too. They are shifting a lot of units, yesterday they had 28 Ninja 250 outside their shop and today they had a delivery of 20+ 650s too. looking forward to hearing a 1000km review from you soon. Thanks Will be looking into an exhaust soon myself I'm sure Same in Chiang Mai they had 30 back when i first posted pics & all gone now except 3. But all were spoken for. 1
macknife Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Yes will have some good reports in a week or so.I am leaving Saturday for a visit up country with the in-laws but when I get back will give it a proper thrashing on some twisty roads. But tomorrow is friday, so we expect reports tomorrow! You live in Chiang Mai, so get out early tomorrow morning and hit the hills. You have already said you are doing the hard break in(as will I) so get to it. We are waiting, no excuses. 1
mania Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 But tomorrow is friday, so we expect reports tomorrow! You live in Chiang Mai, so get out early tomorrow morning and hit the hills. You have already said you are doing the hard break in(as will I) so get to it. We are waiting, no excuses. True & for sure the bike will do some miles & hills tomorrow but.....wife is off work till next Wed so that is when the real spirited riding will start when she goes back to work She loves riding & will surly be stuck to that pillion tomorrow. So I (probably) won't be going too quick....yet
blackpanda Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I'm not to fond of the kick stand kill switch. Maybe on a scooter it is okay but on a motorcycle I think it cause a hazard. But you never know until something happens. I would like to know what the KM/L is, from an actual rider not the dealer.
mania Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I'm not to fond of the kick stand kill switch. Maybe on a scooter it is okay but on a motorcycle I think it cause a hazard. But you never know until something happens. I would like to know what the KM/L is, from an actual rider not the dealer. I think it would be very easy to disable that switch of you want. Just bypass it & complete the circuit. I will definitely give you a km per liter count after I run a few tanks. I am still kind of undecided about the fuel type to run Kawasaki states 91 benzine or gasahol I have always run 95 gasohol in the wave & the engine responds crisp I have read about gasohol & crystallization of rubber parts but have never seen first hand if this has affected bikes/parts designed to run on it. 95 benzine I have not seen here but 91 is available at some places. Gasohol is of course easy to find in either 95 or 91
blackpanda Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I'm not to fond of the kick stand kill switch. Maybe on a scooter it is okay but on a motorcycle I think it cause a hazard. But you never know until something happens. I would like to know what the KM/L is, from an actual rider not the dealer. I think it would be very easy to disable that switch of you want. Just bypass it & complete the circuit. I will definitely give you a km per liter count after I run a few tanks. I am still kind of undecided about the fuel type to run Kawasaki states 91 benzine or gasahol I have always run 95 gasohol in the wave & the engine responds crisp I have read about gasohol & crystallization of rubber parts but have never seen first hand if this has affected bikes/parts designed to run on it. 95 benzine I have not seen here but 91 is available at some places. Gasohol is of course easy to find in either 95 or 91 If I were you I would stick to benzine. I've used gasohol with my CBR and after a few weeks the engine begins to bog. 91 benzine for me from now on. Until they decide to get rid benzine sales in Thailand.
mania Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 If I were you I would stick to benzine. I've used gasohol with my CBR and after a few weeks the engine begins to bog. 91 benzine for me from now on. Until they decide to get rid benzine sales in Thailand. Did you run Gasohol 91 or 95 in the CBR? running the gasohol 95 in a New Honda Wave 125i for about 7 months now & the engine revs & runs very strong Just curious which gasohol octane level you chose for the cbr? Thanks
macknife Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I'm not to fond of the kick stand kill switch. Maybe on a scooter it is okay but on a motorcycle I think it cause a hazard. But you never know until something happens. I would like to know what the KM/L is, from an actual rider not the dealer. I think it would be very easy to disable that switch of you want. Just bypass it & complete the circuit. I will definitely give you a km per liter count after I run a few tanks. I am still kind of undecided about the fuel type to run Kawasaki states 91 benzine or gasahol I have always run 95 gasohol in the wave & the engine responds crisp I have read about gasohol & crystallization of rubber parts but have never seen first hand if this has affected bikes/parts designed to run on it. 95 benzine I have not seen here but 91 is available at some places. Gasohol is of course easy to find in either 95 or 91 If I were you I would stick to benzine. I've used gasohol with my CBR and after a few weeks the engine begins to bog. 91 benzine for me from now on. Until they decide to get rid benzine sales in Thailand. I've used both benzine 91 and gasohol 91 in my CBR and I can't tell the difference, so now I mostly use G91(as it's much cheaer) and it runs just fine. @mania: If your book says to only use benzine 91 or gasohol 91 then I would follow that. All of these so called problems with G91, I'm sure Kawa knew about this and built their bikes accordingly, so I would use whatever you prefer without worry.
cbrer Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 ^ G95 is about 2b a liter more expensive. So on a nearly full tank of 10 liter only 20b.
blackpanda Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 After using G91 the bike began to big then I started and run poorly and the idle dropped. A friend of mine used gasohol 91 for more then a year and his bike would die at every light we stopped on. G95 feels stronger but still after some time the engine began to bog. Now I just stick to benzine. At the end if the day it's got to be your personal preference.
BirdsandBooze Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I put Gasahol 95 in mine and it runs fine. Don`t do what I did though and get lost and run out of petrol in the backwoods. The only fuel I could get was from a roadside Molotov Cocktail vendor. God knows what he`d cut the fuel with, the bike went down the road like a rodeo bull.
wantan Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I know that in Europe even in benzine there is some alcohol/ethanol mixed in. IIRR its up to 5% allowed to call it "benzine/gasoline/petrol" (E5). Don't know if this is the case in Thailand. But i do not like such thing. I want pure benzine in the tank. I use benzine whereever possible. I do not thoroughly trust the statements about gasohol is harmless. And i don't want to support the competition between fuel and food production in the world. Also its still dubious if gasohol is doing any good for the climate. But what can happen when using gasohol? The worse case would be to replace some fuel lines and some other parts. And the money for such repair you already got due to saving money when using gasohol. I dont think that any modern engine will break down because of gasohol. So simply use what makes you feel good. Have fun
mania Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Yes for me it is more of what is available. I know I can search out a station that carries benzine but it seems the majority I stop at do not. Then we have the gasohol 95 VS benzine 91 question (because as far as I have seen in CM benzine 95 is not easy to find? ) So given that option I am wondering if the 95 gasohol ( 95 octane gasoline + 10% ethanol ) Is better than straight 91 octane gasoline? I will try a few tanks of each & try to get the tank close to empty before switching over & just see if there is a discernible difference.
mania Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Nice 80km ride today. No complaints bike rides nice. Poor wife did not seem to like the spirited riding up Doi Suthep A couple of tight turns I thought the bike was a bit hard to pull down. Then I caught sight of her in the right mirror during a tight left turn & realized she was doing the side car monkey deal After assuring her we would be fine & she should lean "with" me things went a lot smoother Poor thing though when we stopped she did let me know that she had quite a few "moments" heheh But I will say she paid me back later when I asked her if she wanted to try taking it for a spin....without me on it of course. Well she perked right up & said OH Yes!!! So I found a big paved lot near a Big C & let her have at it. I was a bit nervous as she peeled away But she did fine & said she loved it...uh oh Couple pics from today 1
karlos Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Brave man!!! My girlfriend assured me she could ride my 650... "I have changed gears before on my dad's Wave" "Fine, as long as you pay upfront for the excess on the insurance and cover your own funeral bill" She hasn't bothered to ask me again since.... 1
mania Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Brave man!!! My girlfriend assured me she could ride my 650... "I have changed gears before on my dad's Wave" "Fine, as long as you pay upfront for the excess on the insurance and cover your own funeral bill" She hasn't bothered to ask me again since.... I made a little video while she rode & had to laugh when I played it back you could hear how nervous my voice was as I was narrating....... "there goes my wife on my new ride, I hope she doesn't drop it"
karlos Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Brave man!!! My girlfriend assured me she could ride my 650... "I have changed gears before on my dad's Wave" "Fine, as long as you pay upfront for the excess on the insurance and cover your own funeral bill" She hasn't bothered to ask me again since.... I made a little video while she rode & had to laugh when I played it back you could hear how nervous my voice was as I was narrating....... "there goes my wife on my new ride, I hope she doesn't drop it" I'd like to see that, upload! 1
wantan Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Brave man!!! My girlfriend assured me she could ride my 650... "I have changed gears before on my dad's Wave" "Fine, as long as you pay upfront for the excess on the insurance and cover your own funeral bill" She hasn't bothered to ask me again since.... I made a little video while she rode & had to laugh when I played it back you could hear how nervous my voice was as I was narrating....... "there goes my wife on my new ride, I hope she doesn't drop it" I was surprised how well my wife handled my Tiger Boxer and my CBR150. OK, she can hardly reach the ground on the CBR, but she has no problem and no fears riding through Bangkok traffic. These Thai woman learn riding bikes when they are less than 5 years old. At least mine did. She rode bigger bikes (250-400cc) of her uncles when she was a child - thats what she told me 2
blackpanda Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 When I first got my bike I let my wife sit on it and showed her all the controls. But she never dared to take off with it. You guys have some daring wife's and girlfriends!! 1
expatsupreme Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Nice 80km ride today. No complaints bike rides nice. Poor wife did not seem to like the spirited riding up Doi Suthep A couple of tight turns I thought the bike was a bit hard to pull down. Then I caught sight of her in the right mirror during a tight left turn & realized she was doing the side car monkey deal After assuring her we would be fine & she should lean "with" me things went a lot smoother Poor thing though when we stopped she did let me know that she had quite a few "moments" heheh But I will say she paid me back later when I asked her if she wanted to try taking it for a spin....without me on it of course. Well she perked right up & said OH Yes!!! So I found a big paved lot near a Big C & let her have at it. I was a bit nervous as she peeled away But she did fine & said she loved it...uh oh Couple pics from today is this 2013 model? is it out already? Looks like a 2013 to me
mania Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 is this 2013 model? is it out already? Looks like a 2013 to me Yes 2013 Sorry slow to respond was up country for a few days offline
expatsupreme Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 can you make video? how much did you pay for it? where did oyu buy it 1
cbrer Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 ^ Is reading the last few pages really that much effort for you? 1
mania Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 can you make video? how much did you pay for it? where did oyu buy it well videos by nature are very large & if you go to You tube & search 2013 Kawasaki 250 you will see many have been posted. Of course many of the new 300 not available here are also on youtube & that is the exact same bike except with more stroke in the engine & slipper clutch. I bought it at Chiang Mai Kawasaki & have details in this post http://www.thaivisa....25#entry5967071 Bike is riding very very nice & I am enjoying it. Already thinking about a few things though I would like a better rear hugger as the stock one is quite short & does not prevent a lot of crap flying up under the bike. Exhaust of course is a possibility later. I have never been into slip on's as they do not really add anything except sound & reduce weight a bit so if I do it will be a full system. Other than that nothing needed for now really as the bike does well in stock form for now.
karlos Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 can you make video? how much did you pay for it? where did oyu buy it The bike has been available for just over a month now.... price and videos can all be found on their respective websites
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