Why Are Men So Dumb Regarding Women?

[rene123]

Maybe some of those people who thinnk they got taken advantage of should look in a full length mirrior naked and reconsider who took advantage of whowm ! LOL

That's a scary thought! I thought halloween had already passed?

[MrRealDeal]

On a more serious note I will try an answer ....

I'm not sure the men are dumb about women or just dumb about themselves , they come to a poor country trying to use their money as a way to get a young pretty girl , nothing wrong with that I guess , but then when the young pretty girl asks for money all the sudden they start complaining about it , Why should I give you 10,000 bht for your mom ? .... Well Sir because you came here to impress me with your money insinuating I could have some. What ? Look at this nice condo and the flat screen tv what more do you want ? .... Well sir I'm sorry to tell you but all the other fat old Farangs I could be staying with also have a nice house and a flat screen ..... So why are you complaining ? ....Because they give me 1500 bht per night and you don't. You mean you just wanted my money ? ..... No I mean I just wanted what YOU claimed to be offereing in the first place sir , wasn't it you who came to a poor country to find a poor girl and make her happy ? Did you think banging the old farang part was what was going to make me happy ? ...... Well honey I guess not but I am not giving you any more money for your mom. ....Well sir maybe thats why you were single when you got here and maybe thats why you will be single tomorrow. I'm sorry it didnt work out honey but if you want to keepa poor girl happy with your money having it is only half the job , the other half is giving it to her.

[tingtongtourist]

Maybe a lot of men move to Thailand having had failed relationships with the lady's in there own County, They think that the Thai locals are thick and stupid, ''Greatful of a fat balding old falang, when in reality a fool and his money are easily parted, Then when they realize they have been played, and used they come crying to this Site. Why accept and try to do things that you would not do in your own Country.

Why accept and try to do things that you would not do in your own Country.

Because if one is a fat balding old farang man, unless millionaire, in his own country not the smalest chance to have sexual relationship with a young, good looking, sexy girlfriend

I hate to break it to ya but the girlfriend part aint gona happen even in Thailand ...... it's called GF experience ...... just a fake prostitute expericnce

And what an experience it is, you simply MUST do this and have the experience for yourself.

Have her moove in and see how she does take over your everything in the place, stinking appartment to holy h3ll of rotten fish fry, call you constantly if ever out alone, checking every moove and never believe what you do tell her anyway, wanting money constantly for every such thing,600 baht whitening cream,ect

checking phone every day you come home, going nuts if some caller happen to be female, have to explain who every new person is who call you, and sit there complaining that you spend to much (of YOUR) money on beer while she is on your notebook on internet always at same time as watching stupid Thai TV soaps while you sit there thinking <deleted> have i done

you must try

[noob7]

The ones I am still talking to passed the test listed above... Not because I asked all the questions directly - mostly I just listened and paid attention - took mental notes.

A liar is in need of a good memory.

And in the case, the story changed every day a little bit,....!

[JDGRUEN]

Does she have a job for real and at what pay?, Does she owe money?, Is she really divorced? Does she have a lot of ill advised tattoos? (I am sure this will bring up some nasty retorts), Does she make 'expectant' statements early on? You know - the "I want - I need" - does she dwell on that?, Is she in too much of a hurry to cement the relationship?, After meeting her, does someone just happen to break into her apartment and take all her gold jewelry? (I really like this one - seems to happen a lot), Are those nieces and nephews living with her mother actually her children?, Does she actually own that part of the family homestead - she speaks of? Or is it some kind vague promise that the elder sister gave (the one who was the only real heir to the family land)...

Stretching out the 'budding' of the relationship makes all the difference. Hopefully my listening and paying attention got me all the right answers... I'll see in the coming years.

Does she have a lot of ill advised tattoos?

Any tattoos and she's out. The relationship is finished.

After meeting her, does someone just happen to break into her apartment and take all her gold jewelry?

Or, did she lose her purse? Or, is her "friend" short of money?

If you ever send or give these girls money, the relationship is over. You have become a White Knight. You have become a sucker.

Even worse are the fools who try to help these girls by employing them or creating businesses on their behalf.

Stretching out the 'budding' of the relationship makes all the difference

No, it doesn't. There is no substitute for meeting the girl asap and seeing her for what she really is.

Andrew - you are very correct... I didn't clarify ... certainly meet soon as reasonably possible... and scope her out - her looks and her story. By "stretching out the 'budding ... " I meant just not jumping blindly into falling in love (falling in lust is okay), 'moving in', buying an engagement ring, buying expensive things... etc. And - thanks for expanding my list.

[JDGRUEN]

The only thing i cannot believe is the women can keep a straight face when they go through the easy con.

I guess in all honesty you cannot really hold any grudge to them after all who would say NO i DONT want a free house after a few months relationship with some fool they hardly do even know from squat.

Would any Western girl say NO if you did offer this ?

Western woman probably dont play this same plan only because they think theres no possible way a man could be so stupid to fall for it.

Funny Thai girl do proove wrong ova and ova

You miss out one important factor, you can build a home with your back pocket money in Thailand, in 'the west' wouldn't even serve as a deposit on the land!!

In my thinking that is false economy. Yes,house may be cheap, even if you get a great house for US$60k...still you throw away 60k in the west?

Don't be silly, you are looking for reasons why they do it.....in my book......because they can........I'm beginning to think the scared,ultra cautious, tick list people who raise these type of threads and suggest due diligence, ain't the most generous people in the world........and why are they still running their due diligence and checks.....well all the tidy women have been snapped up by those a little more adventurous......course it may not work out.....but the adventurous guys are on their second lap before the 'due diligence' guys have started their engines.....course their fuel and thirst for enjoying life may have cost a baht or two

While your comments were not directly referring to me - I am commenting anyway... Oh my ... you are 'way over blowing' the extent of the "due diligence" done or required. And 'way undercutting' the risk of being 'adventurous'... There is a happy medium. Those who practice reasonable caution in romance are not necessarily scared, ultra cautious, or tick list obsessive dolts.. as you suggest... I tend to think of it as applied wisdom wrought from experience... A lack of 'generosity' on the part of cautious men - how silly! We just know when to be generous. Also, how about - we are just not foolish in the same vein of the carefree 'man about town adventurous' fellows - as in the old adage "A fool and his money are soon parted". Oh and if you wish to meet those ladies I didn't 'snap up' - I'll be glad to introduce you to my 'discards' and you can have a go ...

[HardenedSoul]

The majority of those I am aware of, who encountered a lightening of the wallet, have gotten over it, and simply moved on remembering with humour rather than self reproach.......the people who appear beached on the topic are those who appear confident they will never experience the experience....

And a few who have no need or desire for the "experience" in the first place.

I mean, rocking up here and throwing a portion of your wealth at a local lass in return for what is often little more than superficial, pidgin English conversations and regular ejaculations as part of a "plug 'n' play" relationship seems rather foolish but so many guys do it.

Best to just keep your eyes and ears open and be aware of the fact that if you're with a genuinely good-looking Thai woman significantly younger than you are, there's a 99% chance that she really doesn't love you.

[MrRealDeal]

Part 2 .......

Look honey I bought this nice condo , furnshings and new car just for you . Really ?...... Then why is it all in your name and not mine ? because because because ........ And look honey if I keep giving you money I won't have any left in 3 years , why are you such a goldigger ? Sir I am not the one whe flew half way around the world thinking I could use my money to keep a poor girl happy enough to have sex every day and then not give her any. Well I thought you loved me ? ...... No sir you thought I loved money enough to sleep with you. Well look around at our nice house and car we live like kings. No Sir you live like a king , I live like a prostitute but still don't have 10,000bht for my mom .... Ok fine what happens when all my money runs out ? Well sir I guess then you will have to find a girl who loves you for who you are. You mean you don't love me for who I am ? Well sir who you are is someone who flew half way around the world to bang a poor girl because you have money offering her some of it , once it's gone you will be someone who flew half way around the world who has no money who would know better than to think I would have sex with him. What about all the money I already gave you ? Isn't that enough ? Well Sir actually each passing day you become a little fatter a little older and it's a little more embarassing for me to be with you , I was actually going to ask for more money because of that , do you find that unreasonable ? Of Course I do you goldigger. Well Sir I'm sorry you feel that way but if you were me you would understand , perhaps next time you want to find a hot young girl you will realise they are more expensive than you thought !

[matt helm]

Blame testosterone, simple really. Also, there is such a thing called women's intuition that's very real. I'm amazed at how often a woman is able to read my mind without me even saying anything, It's rather spooky.

[NeverSure]

Don't be silly, you are looking for reasons why they do it.....in my book......because they can........I'm beginning to think the scared,ultra cautious, tick list people who raise these type of threads and suggest due diligence, ain't the most generous people in the world........and why are they still running their due diligence and checks.....well all the tidy women have been snapped up by those a little more adventurous......course it may not work out.....but the adventurous guys are on their second lap before the 'due diligence' guys have started their engines.....course their fuel and thirst for enjoying life may have cost a baht or two

With all due respect, I can have a few cute girlfriends in the time it takes the "more adventurous" to complete their house-buying, more serious relationship. If I never buy a house in LOS it can never be taken from me.

I still most like Johnny Carson's quip after his 4th divorce or so. He said "Why get married? Why not just find someone you hate and buy her a house?"

[NeverSure]

And a few who have no need or desire for the "experience" in the first place.

I mean, rocking up here and throwing a portion of your wealth at a local lass in return for what is often little more than superficial, pidgin English conversations and regular ejaculations as part of a "plug 'n' play" relationship seems rather foolish but so many guys do it.

Best to just keep your eyes and ears open and be aware of the fact that if you're with a genuinely good-looking Thai woman significantly younger than you are, there's a 99% chance that she really doesn't love you.

Oh, you are so right. IMHO there is nothing wrong with such a transaction if the farang gets it up front what it is and parts with only enough money to live to play another day. He also must not lose his heart in the false hope that this is eternal and true love from the lady. Just enjoy it for what it is and when it ends part solvent and ready for the next one.

[Mosha]

Evolution gave us 1 brain and 1 penis. Unfortunately it did not give us enough blood for both to work at the same time.

[HardenedSoul]

Evolution gave us 1 brain and 1 penis. Unfortunately it did not give us enough blood for both to work at the same time.

That's a cop out. Plenty of guys manage to operate both simultaneously with ease.

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[ajarnpot]

Darwin and survival of the fittest, when it comes to the sexes men are obviously on a lower rung, but still required for breeding purposes

[maturebrit]

And a few who have no need or desire for the "experience" in the first place.

I mean, rocking up here and throwing a portion of your wealth at a local lass in return for what is often little more than superficial, pidgin English conversations and regular ejaculations as part of a "plug 'n' play" relationship seems rather foolish but so many guys do it.

Best to just keep your eyes and ears open and be aware of the fact that if you're with a genuinely good-looking Thai woman significantly younger than you are, there's a 99% chance that she really doesn't love you.

Oh, you are so right. IMHO there is nothing wrong with such a transaction if the farang gets it up front what it is and parts with only enough money to live to play another day. He also must not lose his heart in the false hope that this is eternal and true love from the lady. Just enjoy it for what it is and when it ends part solvent and ready for the next one.

so true but if guys continue to have a myopic attitude and not take note of some of the advice then whos fault is it? Dont always blame the girl.... she has been groomed by family to do all this for her family....You do hear so many horror stories but hardly hear the successful relationships of which there are quite a few

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[chiang mai]

The majority of those I am aware of, who encountered a lightening of the wallet, have gotten over it, and simply moved on remembering with humour rather than self reproach.......the people who appear beached on the topic are those who appear confident they will never experience the experience....

Best to just keep your eyes and ears open and be aware of the fact that if you're with a genuinely good-looking Thai woman significantly younger than you are, there's a 99% chance that she really doesn't love you.

Except that physical appearance is not a marker for human behaviour hence what you wrote is not a fact.

[brewsterbudgen]

It's not a diificult concept. If the girl of your choice comes from an impoverished background, security (money) for her and her family are going to be of primary importance in any relationship with a farang. It doesn't mean "love" can't exist, but it does call for some realism on the part of the "love struck" man.

[chrisinth]

In my thinking that is false economy. Yes,house may be cheap, even if you get a great house for US$60k...still you throw away 60k in the west?

.I'm beginning to think the scared,ultra cautious, tick list people who raise these type of threads and suggest due diligence, ain't the most generous people in the world........and why are they still running their due diligence and checks.....well all the tidy women have been snapped up by those a little more adventurous......course it may not work out.....but the adventurous guys are on their second lap before the 'due diligence' guys have started their engines.....course their fuel and thirst for enjoying life may have cost a baht or two

Great stuff. And very true.

the scared,ultra cautious, tick list people who raise these type of threads

These people never win.

and why are they still running their due diligence and checks

Because they are the men who got left behind.

+1 on the above

[noob7]

Blame testosterone, simple really. Also, there is such a thing called women's intuition that's very real. I'm amazed at how often a woman is able to read my mind without me even saying anything, It's rather spooky.

Reading your mind? You mean, as soon as the 2. head starts looking into her direction, that it is reading your mind?

Amazing, indeed!

[chiangmaikelly]

It's not a diificult concept. If the girl of your choice comes from an impoverished background, security (money) for her and her family are going to be of primary importance in any relationship with a farang. It doesn't mean "love" can't exist, but it does call for some realism on the part of the "love struck" man.

My first real GF was from a rich family. You would recognize the name. She was raped at 14 years old by her brother and later in life he stole millions from her trust while she was recuperating from an illness in the hospital. Just a guess but I would say brewster you have not known many rich people. They are just as screwed up as poor people maybe more so but you don't hear about it because there are not so many of them,

[brewsterbudgen]

It's not a diificult concept. If the girl of your choice comes from an impoverished background, security (money) for her and her family are going to be of primary importance in any relationship with a farang. It doesn't mean "love" can't exist, but it does call for some realism on the part of the "love struck" man.

My first real GF was from a rich family. You would recognize the name. She was raped at 14 years old by her brother and later in life he stole millions from her trust while she was recuperating from an illness in the hospital. Just a guess but I would say brewster you have not known many rich people. They are just as screwed up as poor people maybe more so but you don't hear about it because there are not so many of them,

I teach rich people, or their offspring, every day and have done for 7 years, but, you're right, I've never dated anyone in Thailand who could be described as rich. Working with the hi-so's makes me appreciate the Isaan/Lao girls even more!

[chiangmaikelly]

The majority of those I am aware of, who encountered a lightening of the wallet, have gotten over it, and simply moved on remembering with humour rather than self reproach.......the people who appear beached on the topic are those who appear confident they will never experience the experience....

And a few who have no need or desire for the "experience" in the first place.

I mean, rocking up here and throwing a portion of your wealth at a local lass in return for what is often little more than superficial, pidgin English conversations and regular ejaculations as part of a "plug 'n' play" relationship seems rather foolish but so many guys do it.

Best to just keep your eyes and ears open and be aware of the fact that if you're with a genuinely good-looking Thai woman significantly younger than you are, there's a 99% chance that she really doesn't love you.

I would say there is a 99% chance you have been reading King Arther and the Knights of the Round Table when you were a child. Love ha ha ha. The divorce rate in every Western country is around 50%. I colored the percent green because of the color of a lot of currencies.

[Berkshire]

I'm not sure the men are dumb about women or just dumb about themselves , they come to a poor country trying to use their money as a way to get a young pretty girl , nothing wrong with that I guess , but then when the young pretty girl asks for money all the sudden they start complaining about it

I had to laugh when reading this because I've made the exact same comment many times before. Guys come to Thailand thinking that by throwing money around, they will attract willing Thai hotties. Well....they do, but for the wrong reasons. And then, as you say, they complain about the hotties being attracted to them only for the money. Duh!

Contrast this to some well-off single Thai guys that I know. These guys do the opposite. They tend to play down their wealth to Thai ladies that they meet, to the point of actually lying to say they didn't have much money when they have loads. Maybe farangs in Thailand can learn from these guys.

[slapout]

Some individuals seem to have the ability to bring out the best in others, while some seem to have the ability to bring others down to their level. I doubt that this is gender specific atribute. It may be the more individuals complain and give the most details, they can appear to dumber than a rock by those they subject to their tirade.

[JDGRUEN]

The majority of those I am aware of, who encountered a lightening of the wallet, have gotten over it, and simply moved on remembering with humour rather than self reproach.......the people who appear beached on the topic are those who appear confident they will never experience the experience....

And a few who have no need or desire for the "experience" in the first place.

I mean, rocking up here and throwing a portion of your wealth at a local lass in return for what is often little more than superficial, pidgin English conversations and regular ejaculations as part of a "plug 'n' play" relationship seems rather foolish but so many guys do it.

Best to just keep your eyes and ears open and be aware of the fact that if you're with a genuinely good-looking Thai woman significantly younger than you are, there's a 99% chance that she really doesn't love you.

I would say there is a 99% chance you have been reading King Arther and the Knights of the Round Table when you were a child. Love ha ha ha. The divorce rate in every Western country is around 50%. I colored the percent green because of the color of a lot of currencies.

The divorce rate In the U.S. is about 50% percent of first marriages, 67% of second and 74% of third marriages. So - it would seem that an American contributing one half of a Thai-American marriage brings in a lot of statistical baggage that does not encourage the prospects of a lasting marriage... And I suspect that this high rate of divorce may well be occurring in other Western countries from which other Farang originate. From some of my experiences talking with Thai women divorce seems to be delayed at times up to 10-20 years via separation... so who knows what the Thai--Thai divorce rate would really be.

[rene123]

I liked MrRealDeal's little story. It pretty much told it like it is. But, us women are suckers for a handsome man as well, and we often put lust in the way of common sense. I've lost count of all my girl friends who were always hitting on the guys with the worst reputation. They knew the guys were randy alley cats, but that didn't stop my friends from going after them, and in so doing had their hearts broken.

[jikjik66]

You often see it guy goes for good looking often much younger girl. Guy can't believe his luck, girl can't believe her luck as she found a sucker to pay her for everything. She has no interest in the guy but loves his money, after a while she scammed enough and the guy put himself in a vunerable position (house in her name ect). Girl changes her ways and takes a Thai bf and kicks the guy out.

I always see the girls the guys choose to marry as anything but GOOD LOOKING.

[NeverSure]

You often see it guy goes for good looking often much younger girl. Guy can't believe his luck, girl can't believe her luck as she found a sucker to pay her for everything. She has no interest in the guy but loves his money, after a while she scammed enough and the guy put himself in a vunerable position (house in her name ect). Girl changes her ways and takes a Thai bf and kicks the guy out.

I always see the girls the guys choose to marry as anything but GOOD LOOKING.

I agree, but I would say mostly not always. I've seen a couple of older guys with stunners. It's not what I usually see though.

However "youth is beauty" to an older man and makes up for a lack of perfection in a lot of cases.

[MrRealDeal]

You often see it guy goes for good looking often much younger girl. Guy can't believe his luck, girl can't believe her luck as she found a sucker to pay her for everything. She has no interest in the guy but loves his money, after a while she scammed enough and the guy put himself in a vunerable position (house in her name ect). Girl changes her ways and takes a Thai bf and kicks the guy out.

I always see the girls the guys choose to marry as anything but GOOD LOOKING.

I really don't see where the "scam" part comes in ........ Old dude with money intentionally sets out on a plan to bribe young hot girl with houses cars money and whatever ........ young girl decided to play along for a while ...... if the money is still flowing she stays if not she leaves ........ even if the money is still there she is free to change her mind anytime she wants and leave with the gifts she has been given ........ where is the scam part ?

I guess what I fail to grasp is when a hot young girl is being bribed for sex why it is ONLY the girl who is the scammer ? I mean isn't the guy doing a little scamming himself ? But where is the scam ? A scam is when you get taken for something by fraud ...... certianly a man intentionally giving gifts or money to have sex with a young girl because thats the only way he can get one and that was his whole plan in the first place is not being defrauded ? He is getting exactly what he came for ? How is that a scam on the girls part ?

what part of ..... I''m hot your not so it's gona cost ya ...... is some underhanded fraud ? How could you possibly defraud a man who's entire plan is to bribe a poor girl for sex by accepting his gifts and giving him sex ? If he paid to much thats his own fault not a scam ...... so tell me where is the scam when a girl decides to take the money she EARNED and run ?

Voulentarily paying to much to get exactly what you asked for is not being scammed .......... And it's only that they paid to much after they leave, if the tang is good enough to buy a house go ahead but don't complain later you got scammed , you paid a house for a weekend with a girl that you otherwise would never have been with , not very smart but also not a scam. Under estimating the price of poontang is the problem not hot young girls scamming people.

[MrRealDeal]

I wonder if some girls feel the same way as some of the guys who feel they got scammed ? Basicly guy buys house or new car and thinks that his gift is good for a year and when he finds out it's only good for a week feels like he got scammed ...... I wonder if some hot girls feel like they got scammed because they had sex for a week and got a Yaris instead of a Mercedes ?

I know it sounds a little foolish but I bet it happens on some level to some extent more than just getting 1000 for a night instead of 1500.

And now that I think about it my first thought is that the girls probabbly get scammed more often than the men but for less money.

All this makes me imagine some guy giving a girl a new Mercedes , she bangs him and leaves the next day , a week later the guy catches up to her at the bar yelling and screaming he got scammed ...... the girl busts out laughing and says SCAMMED are you kidding me ? ..... you thought I would have sex with you more than once for a Mercedes ? I am the one who got scammed you cheap bastard it only had a half a tank of gas.