Where To Buy Ultrasound Device To Scare Pidgeons Away?

[manarak]

preferably in the Pattaya area.

Thank you for any leads.

(I don't need other advice such as fake owls, snakes, nets... the only methods that can help at my place are: shotgun, poison or ultrasound).

[Route21]

I'd also be interested in such a device.

It would have to be a pretty localised device, as I don't necessarily want to scare off the other birds (kingfishers, myna birds, treeswallows, open-billed storks, egrets etc).

We're in Phetchabun.

R21

Sent from my GT-N7100

Edited April 2, 2013 by Route21

[manarak]

I'd also be interested in such a device.

It would have to be a pretty localised device, as I don't necessarily want to scare off the other birds (kingfishers, myna birds, treeswallows, open-billed storks, egrets etc).

We're in Phetchabun.

R21

Sent from my GT-N7100

unfortunately, ultrasound will also scare other birds.

[bankruatsteve]

Get the gf cranked up about something. That might do it.

[Route21]

unfortunately, ultrasound will also scare other birds.

Pigeons go for rooftops the others don't.

Sent from my GT-N7100

[Andyfez]

Ebay?

[brfsa2]

If you know some electronics, you can build yourself an audio amplifier that will scare pigeons (and many other birds)

you need to find the proper frequency that will put the pigeons away by trial and error.
the only problem is that pigeons have much lower frequency hearing range.

Just like other birds, they are sensitive to ultra-low-frequency pressure changes, that's why the know when it's going to rain

here is how you can build it:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/portable-sound-blaster

that circuit is for dogs, higher frequency about 12-15Khz, for pigeons you need to tune like 0.125 - 3.0 Khz

Frequencies: http://psychology.utoledo.edu/images/users/74/21.JAALAS_Revised.pdf

Edited April 3, 2013 by brfsa2

[thhMan]

Grab yourself a .177 or .22 Air Rifle....

Bung a nice scope with mildots on it and pop them off

[jbrain]

To support your thread I post a link to a similar thread I opened some time ago, so you can have a look at the results.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/609986-ultrasonic-bird-repeller/

The one I pictured in the OP are available on Aliexpress for around 30$ if I recall correctly, but I have never bothered to order one.

[belg]

we got crazy birds that start to sing at midnight or even before the sun comes up ... very loud and drives us crazy...so also very interested if anything for sale in thailand against those flying rats

[Minnehaha]

Grab yourself a .177 or .22 Air Rifle....

Bung a nice scope with mildots on it and pop them off

Yes.

Light up a stogie, grab a cold one and sit in a nice perch.

Edited April 3, 2013 by Minnehaha

[Mrjlh]

http://www.birdcontrolsupplies.com/BalconyGard.htm

[julemanden]

Grab yourself a .177 or .22 Air Rifle....

Bung a nice scope with mildots on it and pop them off

And where can i buy one of them around Pattaya, i never seen any

[julemanden]

To support your thread I post a link to a similar thread I opened some time ago, so you can have a look at the results.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/609986-ultrasonic-bird-repeller/

The one I pictured in the OP are available on Aliexpress for around 30$ if I recall correctly, but I have never bothered to order one.

+ import tax 30% or more on China electronics

[chickenslegs]

Grab yourself a .177 or .22 Air Rifle....

Bung a nice scope with mildots on it and pop them off

Yes.

Light up a stogie, grab a cold one and sit in a nice perch.

... and don't forget your banjo

[jbrain]

To support your thread I post a link to a similar thread I opened some time ago, so you can have a look at the results.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/609986-ultrasonic-bird-repeller/

The one I pictured in the OP are available on Aliexpress for around 30$ if I recall correctly, but I have never bothered to order one.

+ import tax 30% or more on China electronics

Well that's actually a subject for another topic, but I've never paid any import tax on goods below 2 kg send by EMS from China.

[atyclb]

If this helps I had a huge problem with pigeons on my patio. Discovered by accident that roasted coffee beans kept them away. I roasted green coffee beans on patio to keep smell and chaff outside. Put a couple of shallow small plastic containers with some beans on patio and on top of a/c. I assume this would work with pre-roasted beans or even ground coffee. You could always heat some roasted beans on a pan or using a heat gun where the pigeon problem is in case it is the smell of roasting coffee that initially repels them

Edited April 3, 2013 by atyclb

[atyclb]

To support your thread I post a link to a similar thread I opened some time ago, so you can have a look at the results.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/609986-ultrasonic-bird-repeller/

The one I pictured in the OP are available on Aliexpress for around 30$ if I recall correctly, but I have never bothered to order one.

+ import tax 30% or more on China electronics

Well that's actually a subject for another topic, but I've never paid any import tax on goods below 2 kg send by EMS from China.

I have paid 7% VAT on some parcels from China / HK. Thailand has trade agreements with those countries. Most of the stuff simply arrives in my mailbox

[Minnehaha]

If this helps I had a huge problem with pigeons on my patio. Discovered by accident that roasted coffee beans kept them away. I roasted green coffee beans on patio to keep smell and chaff outside. Put a couple of shallow small plastic containers with some beans on patio and on top of a/c. I assume this would work with pre-roasted beans or even ground coffee.

Really?

The pigeons dont like the smell of coffee? I find that hard to believe.

In my case, the birds drink from the swimming pool and there a lot of birds. After a refreshing drink... they like to drop a stool just before take off and it usually plops right on the tile. It piles up during the day and if the maid doesnt clean it. Plus they drop after wheels up and this can go into the pool too. Is this a health hazard?

Just this morning I was swimming and saw one land on the railing nearby, afraid to approach while I was swimming. He let one loose that was so huge and loud there was an echo in the enclosed area nearby.

[jackflash]

The Australian Electronics Magazines have had a series of Ultrasonic Barking Dog articles over the years.

Here's a recent one: http://www.altronics.com.au/index.asp?area=item&id=K4500

see

http://archive.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_112942/article.html

and

http://www.siliconchip.com.au/Issue/2012/October/Wireless+Remote+Control+For+The+Barking+Dog+Blaster

If you need help to assemble it, send me a PM.

Edited April 3, 2013 by jackflash

[Route21]

we got crazy birds that start to sing at midnight or even before the sun comes up ... very loud and drives us crazy...so also very interested if anything for sale in thailand against those flying rats

If it's a whooping sound, when all the other birds are quiet, it's probably a coucal ( http://www.pbase.com/peterericsson/greater_coucal). They're a relative of the cuckoo. They don't really bother me - I quite like them.

Regards

R21

PS: My main annoyance is the pigeon poop.

Sent from my GT-N7100

Edited April 3, 2013 by Route21

[rubberduck]

Don't poison them

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/pigeon

Edited April 3, 2013 by rubberduck

[axact]

The ultrasonic devices available for mice moles etc do not work (google it, lots of places have done tests) so I'm not sure that if you do get a unit whether it will actually do the job its supposed to.

[manarak]

If you know some electronics, you can build yourself an audio amplifier that will scare pigeons (and many other birds)

you need to find the proper frequency that will put the pigeons away by trial and error.

the only problem is that pigeons have much lower frequency hearing range.

Just like other birds, they are sensitive to ultra-low-frequency pressure changes, that's why the know when it's going to rain

here is how you can build it:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/portable-sound-blaster

that circuit is for dogs, higher frequency about 12-15Khz, for pigeons you need to tune like 0.125 - 3.0 Khz

Frequencies: http://psychology.utoledo.edu/images/users/74/21.JAALAS_Revised.pdf

http://www.birdcontrolsupplies.com/BalconyGard.htm

hmm... the balcony guard is advertized with a frequency range of 16 to 27 KHz.... something doesn't add up.

I guess the obvious thing to do is to order a couple on Aliexpress

EDIT: I found a source about the hearing range of pidgeons, and it is in the range of 200 to 7500 Hz, or 0.2 to 7.5 KHz.

EDIT 2: in the light of the above, I realize I misnamed the thread - I am really looking for an infrasound device, not an ultrasound device.

Edited April 3, 2013 by manarak

[manarak]

The Australian Electronics Magazines have had a series of Ultrasonic Barking Dog articles over the years.

Here's a recent one: http://www.altronics.com.au/index.asp?area=item&id=K4500

see

http://archive.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_112942/article.html

and

http://www.siliconchip.com.au/Issue/2012/October/Wireless+Remote+Control+For+The+Barking+Dog+Blaster

If you need help to assemble it, send me a PM.

my further research on the subject (from airport protection studies) indicates that:

- there currently is little research data on the subject of the effects of ultra low sound on birds and pidgeons in particular

- the frequency for pidgeons should be in the range of 0.2 to 7 KHz

- the required sound intensity is high (>80 dB in the effect area, so probably around 110-120 dB one meter away from the device)

@jackflash: is it possible to build such a device?

[manarak]

Grab yourself a .177 or .22 Air Rifle....

Bung a nice scope with mildots on it and pop them off

And where can i buy one of them around Pattaya, i never seen any

I know where.. PM me for details

what's the effective range and penetration of such a BB gun or is that an air gun? Edited April 3, 2013 by manarak

[Crossy]

The Australian Electronics Magazines have had a series of Ultrasonic Barking Dog articles over the years.

Here's a recent one: http://www.altronics.com.au/index.asp?area=item&id=K4500

see

http://archive.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_112942/article.html

and

http://www.siliconchip.com.au/Issue/2012/October/Wireless+Remote+Control+For+The+Barking+Dog+Blaster

If you need help to assemble it, send me a PM.

my further research on the subject (from airport protection studies) indicates that:

- there currently is little research data on the subject of the effects of ultra low sound on birds and pidgeons in particular

- the frequency for pidgeons should be in the range of 0.2 to 7 KHz

- the required sound intensity is high (>80 dB in the effect area, so probably around 110-120 dB one meter away from the device)

@jackflash: is it possible to build such a device?

0.2 - 7kHz will drive you and your neighbours up the wall, that frequency range is slap in the middle of what we can hear.

[phantomfiddler]

Feed them Lomotil I bought some very realistic snakes, and when I looked out of the window the next day a pigeon was sitting on one Now I use netting, and putting 45 degree moulding on any ledges helps stop them from landing.

[asupeartea]

Try reading this. It talks about ultra sound devices for dogs and a DIY water spurter.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/how-to-keep-dogs-out-of-your-yard.html

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[asupeartea]

Try reading this. It talks about ultra sound devices for dogs and a DIY water spurter.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/how-to-keep-dogs-out-of-your-yard.html

How to Keep Dogs Out of Your Yard

At Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Activated-ULTRASONIC-ANIMAL-REPELLER/dp/B00281NGAU