Fried chicken takeaway called 'Hitler' opens in Thailand

[lemoncake]

Interesting, that the British are complaining the most. Don't they remember they themselves were responsible for genocide in Africa, India, Australia and the rest of the Commonwealth countries where the British imperialistic conquerors set foot.

but this sort of arguement just going round and round....

The US comitted genocide in Japan by dropped atomic weapons on civilian popuation centers, the Aussie committed genocide in attempting to wipe out the native inhabitants of Aussie...Juilus Ceasar commmitted genocide just about wiping out all the gauls etc etc

Without making the Americans seem like angels, you would not find any WWII historians that would describe that as genocide. .

USA was attacked by Japan first, and the atomic bombs actually led to a quicker end of WWII preventing many more months or years of conflict. Their actions were not to wipe out a race, just to wipe out the Japan military and end the conflict.

I thought the atomic bombs on Japan was after the war was effectively over and an appallingly murderous attack on Japan to demonstrate to Russia that America was the big boy in the street.

And once again you would be wrong. Bombs were dropped in final stages of the war.United States called for a surrender of Japan, an ultimatum which Japan ignored

[AnotherOneAmerican]

As an American, and a Veteran,

So who did you get paid to kill?

(Just out of interest)

I've never killed anyone, nor had the wish to do so.

Once you remove all the hired killers from the world, we shall have peace.

Edited July 6, 2013 by AnotherOneAmerican

[sprq]

it's the education system. I don't think these people actually admire Hitler but it's possible the school history syllabus didn't cover what he did and the millions he murdered.

At least the chicken is pretty good...

I think the point is they don't care what he did. (In reality neither do I, and neither did Prince Harry of the UK, and the uniforms look pretty snappy)

You don't care what Hitler did? You owe us all an explanation, so let's see if you have the nerve to do it.

[GeorgeO]

it's the education system. I don't think these people actually admire Hitler but it's possible the school history syllabus didn't cover what he did and the millions he murdered.

At least the chicken is pretty good...

I think the point is they don't care what he did. (In reality neither do I, and neither did Prince Harry of the UK, and the uniforms look pretty snappy)

I'm sorry, but are you really saying you don't care what hitler did?

Hear, hear...! Those horrific memories are still alive in many people's minds...!

I'm amazed that anyone would even consider going into such a place, let alone giving them your custom...!

[mikemac]

"I genuinely regret to waste such wisdom on undeserving half-cast, half-breed half-humans". ......................................

As I have said before, on numerous occasions, one of the best things about this forum is it makes it so easy to spot the scumbags/morons etc.

Takes all the effort out of it. I believe it is because when people are writing comments on a forum they think they are bullet proof because they are tucked away in their computer rooms firing at will.

Don't they realize that lots of people are reading the arrogant and smug garbage they come out with ?

[lostmebike]

Interesting, that the British are complaining the most. Don't they remember they themselves were responsible for genocide in Africa, India, Australia and the rest of the Commonwealth countries where the British imperialistic conquerors set foot.

Poirot, your skills of deduction are amazing!

Like the French, Japanese, Spanish AND Americans aren't all guilty too! Just saying.

[chiang mai]

As an American, and a Veteran,

So who did you get paid to kill?

(Just out of interest)

I've never killed anyone, nor had the wish to do so.

Once you remove all the hired killers from the world, we shall have peace.

Absolutely pathetic and so incredibly niave.

[CIHUAHUA]

it's the education system. I don't think these people actually admire Hitler but it's possible the school history syllabus didn't cover what he did and the millions he murdered.

At least the chicken is pretty good...

I think the point is they don't care what he did. (In reality neither do I, and neither did Prince Harry of the UK, and the uniforms look pretty snappy)

I'm sorry, but are you really saying you don't care what hitler did?

Don't care at all, nor do I care what Genghis Khan, Slobodan Milosevic, Stalin, the Japanese, the IRA, Pol Pot, et al did.

It's in the past, forgive and forget.

If we forget, then we might allow it to happen again. Sometimes we have to think beyond ourselves and see the big picture.

Edited July 6, 2013 by CIHUAHUA

[NoshowJones]

it's the education system. I don't think these people actually admire Hitler but it's possible the school history syllabus didn't cover what he did and the millions he murdered.

At least the chicken is pretty good...

I think the point is they don't care what he did. (In reality neither do I, and neither did Prince Harry of the UK, and the uniforms look pretty snappy)

I'm sorry, but are you really saying you don't care what hitler did?

Don't care at all, nor do I care what Genghis Khan, Slobodan Milosevic, Stalin, the Japanese, the IRA, Pol Pot, et al did.

It's in the past, forgive and forget.

I admire you for stating your opinion like that.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

As an American, and a Veteran,

So who did you get paid to kill?

(Just out of interest)

I've never killed anyone, nor had the wish to do so.

Once you remove all the hired killers from the world, we shall have peace.

Absolutely pathetic and so incredibly niave.

Before you commit genocide, you first need to hire some killers (aka soldiers).

Without the soldiers, you can't do the genocide (well, I guess you could, but it would take a really long time).

Soldiers are the problem, not the cure.

Edited July 6, 2013 by AnotherOneAmerican

[Rorri]

How long before the Israelis "close" this place down, permanently.

[lemoncake]

As an American, and a Veteran,

So who did you get paid to kill?

(Just out of interest)

I've never killed anyone, nor had the wish to do so.

Once you remove all the hired killers from the world, we shall have peace.

Absolutely pathetic and so incredibly niave.

Before you commit genocide, you first need to hire some killers (aka soldiers).

Without the soldiers, you can't do the genocide (well, I guess you could, but it would take a really long time).

Soldiers are the problem, not the cure.

Can not help but wonder about your age

Soldiers follow orders, so if anyone to blame are the ones giving out orders

[geriatrickid]

In any case, this thread serves to illustrate that there are some very screwed up foreigners in Thailand. I have the impression that they have so much hate in their bodies that they are incapable of being decent people.

The issue at hand is whether or not it was appropriate to promote a deep fat fried chicken restaurant using a mentally deranged mass murderer. All the references to British or Australian or American or Israeli wrongdoing is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that no one in those countries opens up a restaurant and names it the Pol Pot Bistro using images of the Killing fields, nor does one see fat farms/spas marketed with images of concentration camps with the slogan Come Lose Weight Fast and Stay Warm at the Same Time, nor do the hooker cubicles in Amsterdam have signs advertising Virginal Comfort Girls, nor do any medical hospitals advertise their research facilities by using images of Chinese being experimented upon. It's wrong, pure and simple and those pathetic people that are incapable of understanding that point deserve to live the miserable lives they are currently living now.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

Soldiers follow orders, so if anyone to blame are the ones giving out orders

It's surprising 'I was just obeying zee orders' didn't go down better at Nuremberg then.

[lemoncake]

Soldiers follow orders, so if anyone to blame are the ones giving out orders

It's surprising 'I was just obeying zee orders' didn't go down better at Nuremberg then.

Are you for real? how many soldiers were jailed? officers issuing orders- plenty but how many soldiers? , please enough already with your nonsense in every post you make

[Soutpeel]

Interesting, that the British are complaining the most. Don't they remember they themselves were responsible for genocide in Africa, India, Australia and the rest of the Commonwealth countries where the British imperialistic conquerors set foot.

but this sort of arguement just going round and round....

The US comitted genocide in Japan by dropped atomic weapons on civilian popuation centers, the Aussie committed genocide in attempting to wipe out the native inhabitants of Aussie...Juilus Ceasar commmitted genocide just about wiping out all the gauls etc etc

Without making the Americans seem like angels, you would not find any WWII historians that would describe that as genocide. .

USA was attacked by Japan first, and the atomic bombs actually led to a quicker end of WWII preventing many more months or years of conflict. Their actions were not to wipe out a race, just to wipe out the Japan military and end the conflict.

I would argue that it could be seen as genocide as per one of the definitions of genocide is:

"Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part"

if the action had only targetted the miltary then I would say an act of war, but its was known before the bombs were dropped that the vast majority of the casualites would be among the civlian population...ie it was a weapon of mass destruction...lest not forgot that the action eventually killed over 200,000 people how many of those were actually "legimate military targets" ?

[NoshowJones]

Man all this arguing and history lessons is making me hungry for some fried chicken!

Now where should i go?

Your local market if you live in Thailand.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

please enough already with your nonsense

Now we know!

[Cuban]

Will be interesting to see if Pepsi don't step in and have their logo removed from this business, probably today.

Also the whole Swastika thing has been done to death here, Hitler adopted it's use from it's original use as a symbol of auspiciousness and good.

Every side in a war consider themselves to be "right" so you can't really blame Hitler or Germany for that.

The other point, generally when used as a Nazi symbol it is rotated at 45° degrees vs the original square on design.

As for Hitler Fried Chicken this might act as a opportunity for education about WWII and the role Thailand, Japan played which is an area of unknown to the average educated Thai. I've read Thailand didn't have a good experience with their Japanese allies so I expect it was a face saving exercise to ignore the event as soon as possible as per the Thai way.

Someone motivated with Thai language skills could use this for a social media education program.

Linking to some of the war crimes carried out under Hitler would wake up these people through education of the Smart phone carrying kids the adults only watch TV and so are beyond reach or learning.

[charmonman]

it's the education system. I don't think these people actually admire Hitler but it's possible the school history syllabus didn't cover what he did and the millions he murdered.

At least the chicken is pretty good...

I think the point is they don't care what he did. (In reality neither do I, and neither did Prince Harry of the UK, and the uniforms look pretty snappy)

I'm sorry, but are you really saying you don't care what hitler did?

Don't care at all, nor do I care what Genghis Khan, Slobodan Milosevic, Stalin, the Japanese, the IRA, Pol Pot, et al did.

It's in the past, forgive and forget.

With all due respect, your comment strikes me as quite ignorant. There are still people living who suffered under Milosevic, Stalin, the WW2 era Japanese, the IRA, and Pol Pot. I suppose, as an American, you forgive and forget Osama Bin Laden and his followers as well?

[lemoncake]

Will be interesting to see if Pepsi don't step in and have their logo removed from this business, probably today.

Also the whole Swastika thing has been done to death here, Hitler adopted it's use from it's original use as a symbol of auspiciousness and good.

Every side in a war consider themselves to be "right" so you can't really blame Hitler or Germany for that.

The other point, generally when used as a Nazi symbol it is rotated at 45° degrees vs the original square on design.

As for Hitler Fried Chicken this might act as a opportunity for education about WWII and the role Thailand, Japan played which is an area of unknown to the average educated Thai. I've read Thailand didn't have a good experience with their Japanese allies so I expect it was a face saving exercise to ignore the event as soon as possible as per the Thai way.

Someone motivated with Thai language skills could use this for a social media education program.

Linking to some of the war crimes carried out under Hitler would wake up these people through education of the Smart phone carrying kids the adults only watch TV and so are beyond reach or learning.

How about idiots riding around wearing nazi shape helmets with ZZ on it?

[lowushatin]

I dont see why anyone should be upset. The only thing that makes him worse than any other world leader is that he lost the War.

[redutedog1]

maybe coz Thai's want to be white with blonde hair 555

[NoshowJones]

Hmmmm, gives me an idea, Bin Laden rotis or Sadam shish kebabs, or George Bush burgers, how about, Mussolini pizza??

How about Blairs bangers?

[peacetrain72]

AnotherOneAmerican, on 05 Jul 2013 - 14:22, said:

Bluespunk, on 05 Jul 2013 - 14:18, said:

AnotherOneAmerican, on 05 Jul 2013 - 13:55, said:

gl555, on 05 Jul 2013 - 13:52, said:

it's the education system. I don't think these people actually admire Hitler but it's possible the school history syllabus didn't cover what he did and the millions he murdered.
At least the chicken is pretty good...

I think the point is they don't care what he did. (In reality neither do I, and neither did Prince Harry of the UK, and the uniforms look pretty snappy)

I'm sorry, but are you really saying you don't care what hitler did?

Don't care at all, nor do I care what Genghis Khan, Slobodan Milosevic, Stalin, the Japanese, the IRA, Pol Pot, et al did.
It's in the past, forgive and forget.

may be worth considering what your life would be like if say the Germans or Japanese had their way 70's ago. the entire world would be marching under a different tune. Forgiving is a noble gesture although I would suggest a futile gesture to those personally exposed to Hitler. Forgetting is an easy alternative to learning, creating your own true perspective and recognising traits not to idolise and appropriately guide the generations ahead. Borrowing some well know words (paraphrasing) , those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[drdoom6996]

it's the education system. I don't think these people actually admire Hitler but it's possible the school history syllabus didn't cover what he did and the millions he murdered.

At least the chicken is pretty good...

Taksin, Hitler, Saddam, they are all the same. I want to see a chicken stand with Taksin in a bow tie out front.

I will never find out if the chicken is good. They don't get my money.

[joeaverage]

I think the point is they don't care what he did. (In reality neither do I, and neither did Prince Harry of the UK, and the uniforms look pretty snappy)

I'm sorry, but are you really saying you don't care what hitler did?

Don't care at all, nor do I care what Genghis Khan, Slobodan Milosevic, Stalin, the Japanese, the IRA, Pol Pot, et al did.

It's in the past, forgive and forget.

DO you actually comprehend the amount of people killed? tortured and starved to death?

Let me guess if it did not affect you personally, you could not care less:rolleyes:

really i do comprehend.

it does not alter reality one bit.

the story itself is nonsense, a recycling of old news.

i personally could not give a shit what a thai with a chicken shop does or does not think about hitler, nor do i see what a couple breasts and a drumstick have to do with anything.

i see racist vitriol on this site daily that i find more offensive.and that comes from folk who claim to know better.

correct me if i am wrong, didn't the us drop a nuke on a civilian population totalling in the hundreds of thousands?

i have better things to be offended over, this does not rate

Edited July 6, 2013 by joeaverage

[AnotherOneAmerican]

may be worth considering what your life would be like if say the Germans or Japanese had their way 70's ago. the entire world would be marching under a different tune. Forgiving is a noble gesture although I would suggest a futile gesture to those personally exposed to Hitler. Forgetting is an easy alternative to learning, creating your own true perspective and recognising traits not to idolise and appropriately guide the generations ahead. Borrowing some well know words (paraphrasing) , those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Good question, but most extremist governments calm down after a few years in power, and there wouldn't have been the cold war.

Not sure I really care who is in charge of the world banks, the current lot don't seem to be doing that good a job though.

[lemoncake]

really i do comprehend.

it does not alter reality one bit.

the story itself is nonsense, a recycling of old news.

i personally could not give a shit what a thai with a chicken shop does or does not think about hitler, nor do i see what a couple breasts and a drumstick have to do with anything.

i see racist vitriol on this site daily that i find more offensive.and that comes from folk who claim to know better.

ignorance is a bliss

[Baerboxer]

Bluespunk, Chiang Mai

Guy's it's Friday night, it's just a thread about some frakking cartoon picture of Col Saunders with Hitlers head on it selling fried chicken. It's not a thread about Global history lessons and the slaughter of millions. Thai kids probably know as much about Hitler as Vicky Pollard knows about the history of Siam, and the only thing most middle age Brits know about the History of Siam is it had something to do with Yul Brynner and Deborah Kerr. Don't they have a happy hour near where you live?

Would just like to point out that AnotherOneAmerican is not alone in his attitude of immediately forgiving and forgetting anything bad that happens in this world.

Apparently goldfish do it too.

I think you'll find the pope and millions of catholics do to. For anyone wanting to repent that is.