Chalerm to propose a reform assembly to write a new Thai charter

[kirk0233]

Do the Thai people want a new constitution? Or has no one bothered to ask them? It seems happens every few years. Always has to say something about amnesty for the military; so the coup should come before the new constitution.

[PeterSmiles]

Regarding the “men in black” seen on the rooftop of the Labour Ministry on December 26 as shown in social media, Chalerm denied that they were policemen but they were protesters attempting to use the Labour Ministry to carry out violent incidents.

I would suggest Chalerm doesn't open his mouth, because he all the time has to eat his words.

National Police Office commissioner Pol Gen Adul Saengsingkaew this morning admitted that the men in black” on the roof-top of the Labor Ministry’s building near the Thai-Japan youth centre in Din Daeng are police.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/693576-thailands-police-chief-admits-men-in-black-are-police/#entry7235268

[recycler]

That will be charter number 18 since 1932, that sure will help to solve the problem!

[Ricardo]

Regarding the “men in black” seen on the rooftop of the Labour Ministry on December 26 as shown in social media, Chalerm denied that they were policemen but they were protesters attempting to use the Labour Ministry to carry out violent incidents.

I would suggest Chalerm doesn't open his mouth, because he all the time has to eat his words.

National Police Office commissioner Pol Gen Adul Saengsingkaew this morning admitted that the men in black” on the roof-top of the Labor Ministry’s building near the Thai-Japan youth centre in Din Daeng are police.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/693576-thailands-police-chief-admits-men-in-black-are-police/#entry7235268

Simply hilarious ... the timing could not have been better ... it's almost as if someone wanted to make the poor loyal former-DPM look a fool !

He will doubtless apologise to the anti-government protesters, for his mistaken & wrong accusation, shortly after carrying-out his promise to be beheaded, for having failed to bring the Big Boss home before the end of last year ? Or perhaps not.

[soi41]

The picture we were all hoping for on January 1 !

[mrtoad]

Considering that he is likely to complicit in the deaths of police and citizens, then he might be doing this from a jail cell, or more likely from Dubai in the near future.

[bigbamboo]

For some reason the song '99 Red Balloons' came to mind.

Must be all that hot air.

[Scamper]

I'm sorry, Mr. Chalerm. You have zero credibility. It is not that you have arrived at that distinction by chance. You've worked very hard at it over the years. You stand before the public and deny what even the chief of the Thai police has stated about the men in black. And you stand before the public and yet again offer a new charter, as you have so often done in the past. There are two things to note from this flurry of announcements. One, people within the administration are simply getting in front of the camera and making unilateral announcements. Two, none of these statements agree with each other. This is an administration that is without a compass. Mr. Chalerm suggests that the election take place, even though there are not enough candidacies filled, so that the process can be repeated all over again in six months. Doubtless, he'll argue that the caretaker government will be perennially in effect - completely inoculated against public opinion. Have another drink.

[tingtongteesood]

A New Year miracle. Mr Chalerm has kept his head while all around him are losing theirs.

Just another photo op from our favorite man in black.

How in he hell did the protestors get in to the ministry to access the roof when it was surrounded by police and you claimed before that the protestors were prevented from entering ? Utter <deleted> !

And what is the betting that all 99 people on his committee would be PT voters ? And why would any of us trust him when he has just lied through his teeth to cover up for the government's militia ?

Snake snake snake !!!

[scorecard]

A New Year miracle. Mr Chalerm has kept his head while all around him are losing theirs.

Just another photo op from our favorite man in black.

How in he hell did the protestors get in to the ministry to access the roof when it was surrounded by police and you claimed before that the protestors were prevented from entering ? Utter <deleted> !

And what is the betting that all 99 people on his committee would be PT voters ? And why would any of us trust him when he has just lied through his teeth to cover up for the government's militia ?

Snake snake snake !!!

Can only hope someone files charges against him.

[taony]

Elections every six months sounds like a good idea.

[DMG333]

Interesting even issues like this, they go for lucky number.....99.... OMG......

So Jan 13 because of free mason?

These politicians should think more proactive actions that is boon for the country rather than playing their chess.

[tingtongteesood]

It's disgusting, how long such a person can be in the highest offices of the country.

http://bangkokdave.blog.com/2012/08/07/chalerm-son-still-the-untouchables/

One of the biggest scandals of the country ever, an insult to all honest cops and still an open wound in the souls from many many thai people.

Thanks for the link, very interesting. These are the kind of people in the PT party, this is why they must be stopped. Any of you reds want to try and defend this piece of slime ? Reforms before elections. There should be an independent panel started to prevent such nepotistic farcical acts by those in power.

[Robby nz]

Why is the headless one proposing a charter or constitution, whatever you want to call it, rewrite ?

That isn't what this is all about.

Rewriting a charter and putting in place reforms are completely different things.

This is about reforms to various systems, justice, police, education, politics and several others.

There first needs to be groups of experts and stakeholders which would look at each individual entity to determine the best way to implement the changes needed to improve each individual system.

I would suspect that many of the changes could be implemented within the present charter by strengthening laws and systems and make them fair for all.

Once that was done and everything coordinated then it could be looked at to see if there were any charter changes needed or new laws passed by an incoming Government..

[rubl]

From 2012-12-29:

"Meanwhile, Deputy Prime Minister Police Captain Chalerm Ubumrung said he will not feel disheartened if his proposal to amend the charter by section is rejected by the party. He said he will always follow the party resolution regardless of the final decision."

http://thaifinancialpost.com/2012/12/29/pheu-thai-to-finalize-the-charter-amendment-in-mid-jan/

[smutcakes]

A brilliant tactician this man.(not!!)......how can Thai politics ever move forward with people of his calibre in the line up.

To think that people here actually think he's the Man is beyond comprehension....an utterly embarrasing liability!

The guy is a complete moron, but unlike Suthep at least he has actually proposed something!

[allan michaud]

Kuhn Earache should manage to FUBAR democracy quite nicely.

As for the MiB, how does he know they were protestors...and if so, why isn't he embarrassed at the MoM's total lack of security? "Not policemen", my great granny's fanny they weren't.

so why were they firing teargas from the roof -

and the plan would be to hold uncontested elections on the 2nd then a top up election to fill a few empty seats, I'm sorry but a failed election is a failed election reset back to zero until a proper one can be held

is this man simply an idiot ?

In answer to your question. No, he is much more than a simple idiot. Other words that would work equally well include, moron, brain-donor, drunken, fool, liar, corrupt, mafiosi etc etc etc.

Please can one of the so called journalists ask him why he has not cut his own head off yet, it is 2014 now and he failed to get his boss home.

[PeVee1st]

Like giving the monkey the machine gun!!!!!!!!

[Robby nz]

"Meanwhile, Deputy Prime Minister Police Captain Chalerm Ubumrung said he will not feel disheartened if his proposal to amend the charter by section is rejected by the party. He said he will always follow the party resolution regardless of the final decision."

http://thaifinancial...ent-in-mid-jan/

So according to that story PT are no longer interested in reforms but instead have changed things to having a charter rewrite.

And it would appear, without anyone's knowledge have already appointed someone to do this :

"The Commission of Referendum Studies, which has been appointed by the cabinet last week".

Read the whole article for yourself.

This could be a new low for PT.

[siampolee]

Looks like Wurzel Chalerm Gummidge has visited ''The Crowman'' and had a new talking and thinking turnip head fitted. Wonder where Aunt Yingluck Sally is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8GOup-hZQE

[Thaddeus]

For some reason the song '99 Red Balloons' came to mind.

Must be all that hot air.

I thought that when I read the topic about Arisman trying to fly.

For this one it's '99 Red Baboons'

[Lite Beer]

'Chalerm' suggests the formation of the reform council of 99 members

BANGKOK, 2 Jan 2014, (NNT) - Labor Minister Chalerm Yuubamrung has suggested the formation of the reform council that comprises 99 members to monitor and push forward the political reformation.

The suggestion came during the Center for Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) meeting on January 1st. The Labor Minister explained that the 99 members of the council he proposed should comprise representatives selected by the Election Commission (EC) from each province and the rest should be experts from related fields.

According to him, the council will be tasked with drafting the constitution amendment, and conducting public opinion on the draft. Minister Chalerm stressed that his approach could be done side by side with the general election.

Regarding some of the EC members' opposition to the holding of the national polls, the Labor Minister responded that the EC is duty bound to organize the election, and that the EC members who do not wish to do their duties should resign.

He also said that the EC could hold another election within 180 days to get additional MPs to fill up the whole number required by the constitution, should the February polls fail to come up with the required number.

-- NNT 2014-01-02

[mrtoad]

I am pretty sure that head is photo shopped on, it doesn't look real.

[terryp]

completly wrong it should be 999....

[Robby nz]

I suspect you all are missing the point here by having a pick at Chalerm.

Looks like what he and PT are proposing could be very serious.

I post the article from the link.

Pheu Thai to finalize the charter amendment in mid Jan

Published on December 29, 2012 by TFP · No Comments

The ruling Pheu Thai party has expected that the conclusion of the charter amendment will be drawn in the middle of next month.

According to Pheu Thai Party Spokesperson Prompong Nopparit, the government is waiting for a resolution from the Commission of Referendum Studies, which has been appointed by the cabinet last week.

The final resolution will be reviewed during the party seminar which will be held in the northeastern province of Nakhon Ratchasima on January 6-7.

Party members of parliament have been assigned to visit people and make them understand about the disadvantages of the 2007 constitution and what they will get from the charter amendment in order to ensure that the new constitution will be widely accepted.

Meanwhile, Deputy Prime Minister Police Captain Chalerm Ubumrung said he will not feel disheartened if his proposal to amend the charter by section is rejected by the party. He said he will always follow the party resolution regardless of the final decision.

Police Captain Chalerm also reaffirmed that no amendment will be made in Article 309 of the constitution which deals with the actions of the 2006 coup-makers who overthrew former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra as well as any sections related to the monarchy.

By RADIO THAILAND & INSIGHT INFO

It looks very much like PT are going to go back and do the constitution changes, including 109, which they wanted to make before but refused to take to a referendum.

Suspect the plan now will be to link a referendum to the Feb 2 election in which they cant fail to get a majority.

That way they will get the changes they previously wanted to make passed in a sneaky way.

If that is the case then it is just about getting the constitution changes they wanted while in Government and has nothing to do with reforms.

Could there even be a clause in their rewrite which covers amnesty ?

[mikemac]

A brilliant tactician this man.(not!!)......how can Thai politics ever move forward with people of his calibre in the line up.

To think that people here actually think he's the Man is beyond comprehension....an utterly embarrasing liability!

"........................................To think that people here actually think he's the Man is beyond comprehension................................................."

You think that is beyond comprehension ??? That's nothing mate, only the tip of the iceberg !

There are people with the mentality of a bedbug posting crap on here every day, like - Thaksin is innocent of any crimes, that he was framed, Yingluck is a good PM and is doing a good job, the redshirts are honest, hardworking, non-violent people who genuinely love Thaksin (nothing to do with the money he pays them to do his dirty work) and anyone who dislikes/hates/detests the Shinawatra regime is a rabid Democrat who wears yellow pajamas to bed.

[smutcakes]

A brilliant tactician this man.(not!!)......how can Thai politics ever move forward with people of his calibre in the line up.

To think that people here actually think he's the Man is beyond comprehension....an utterly embarrasing liability!

"........................................To think that people here actually think he's the Man is beyond comprehension................................................."

You think that is beyond comprehension ??? That's nothing mate, only the tip of the iceberg !

There are people with the mentality of a bedbug posting crap on here every day, like - Thaksin is innocent of any crimes, that he was framed, Yingluck is a good PM and is doing a good job, the redshirts are honest, hardworking, non-violent people who genuinely love Thaksin (nothing to do with the money he pays them to do his dirty work) and anyone who dislikes/hates/detests the Shinawatra regime is a rabid Democrat who wears yellow pajamas to bed.

I think you need to take a step back from the computer mate. Its the new year, chill out- not sure partaking in forum discussion is good for your health.

[Old Man River]

A New Year miracle. Mr Chalerm has kept his head while all around him are losing theirs.

Just another photo op from our favorite man in black.

Suthep said his first order of business would be to reform the police. I wonder what Chalerm's first order of business would be.

[ggold]

I am pretty sure that head is photo shopped on, it doesn't look real.

It does look detached, maybe they glued it back on after he cut it off!

[JRSoul]

A New Year miracle. Mr Chalerm has kept his head while all around him are losing theirs.

Just another photo op from our favorite man in black.

Suthep said his first order of business would be to reform the police. I wonder what Chalerm's first order of business would be.

hopefully, resign.