Armed naval officers 'moonlighted as guards at protest': Thai police

[FangFerang]

According to the SAS, special ops are issued flash suppressors, not silencers. Silencers are only issued for covert ops.

The whole thing smells like a seven day old dead fish in a tropical pantry.

[xminator]

Thank you Mr Suthep for bringing the southern unrest to Bangkok.

[Muhendis]

The agents' current assignments, however, are in the far South and eastern provinces.

Moonlighting in central Bangkok and then taking their private ultrasonic jets back to the South or East every morning.

Or were they part of a Govt. infiltration plot that went wrong?

[transam]

Hi hansum, is that a gun with a silencer in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me..... ...............

[Scamper]

As it is in the police's clear interest to frame the narrative of this story, as well as to reach their own conclusions, that alone should give pause. The police's hands are anything but clean. Consider the following :

1. The men in black identified as policemen by none other than the chief of police.

2. The nightly terror attacks on the protesters at night.

3. The nightly grenade attacks on the homes of protest leaders.

4. The grenade attacks on the former prime minister's house, and the current Governor of Bangkok's house.

There is a clear, connecting thread pretty obvious to anyone not blind to it.

[espinoza]

Tap water pipes, that`s the blue PVC pipe. Do they not afford real steel pipes ? Poor fuc..kers.

[espinoza]

As it is in the police's clear interest to frame the narrative of this story, as well as to reach their own conclusions, that alone should give pause. The police's hands are anything but clean. Consider the following :

1. The men in black identified as policemen by none other than the chief of police.

2. The nightly terror attacks on the protesters at night.

3. The nightly grenade attacks on the homes of protest leaders.

4. The grenade attacks on the former prime minister's house, and the current Governor of Bangkok's house.

There is a clear, connecting thread pretty obvious to anyone not blind to it.

This tells this players against the democracy to stop their fight for at dictatorship.

[rijb]

No whistles?

[binjalin]

sack them - finished

[englishoak]

At least anti-Government protestors use Thai navy for protection. Thaksin red shirt thugs get protection from Hun Sens black shirt - so thaksin bring in Cambodians to kill Thais!! Hands up if you love the Thai people!!

Are we going to get the Cambodians are behind things rhetoric again ?

Its not unusual for Police Army Navy etc to moonlight and do cash jobs, Ive been places where there has been both army and police moonlighting for security, body guarding and tracking.

The suppressors bother me more, they wouldnt be silent but do somewhat hide the direction of a shot if used especially in an open area like the protest camps. Shots could be fired and the direction from where would not be noticed so easy and the flash would be greatly reduced not giving away position, Very useful at night

Edited January 17, 2014 by englishoak

[citizen33]

Another salient point is that they have now been released from police custody and returned to the Navy who would have no jurisdiction in the mater had they been moonlighting and not on "official business" with their "hush puppies".

Sorry, but I must correct you on your final point. It is indeed the norm for any serviceman to be returned to his place of duty to be dealt with accordingly, as disciplinary action comes under the jurisdiction of the serviceman's commanding officer.

This is the same in the UK, US and elsewhere, and this is exactly why we have the court martial system available for use in such cases.

It isn't that simple. In the UK, offences by military personnel involving the person or property of a member of the public are handled by the police and ordinary courts, except in certain circumstances. The commanding officer has a role but it is not definitive.

http://www.kent.police.uk/about_us/policies/m/m051.html

Perhaps in this case the public would not have been deemed to be involved and the personnel could be tried under military law, but the line is not always clear.

[englishoak]

Another salient point is that they have now been released from police custody and returned to the Navy who would have no jurisdiction in the mater had they been moonlighting and not on "official business" with their "hush puppies".

Sorry, but I must correct you on your final point. It is indeed the norm for any serviceman to be returned to his place of duty to be dealt with accordingly, as disciplinary action comes under the jurisdiction of the serviceman's commanding officer.

This is the same in the UK, US and elsewhere, and this is exactly why we have the court martial system available for use in such cases.

It isn't that simple. In the UK, offences by military personnel involving the person or property of a member of the public are handled by the police and ordinary courts, except in certain circumstances. The commanding officer has a role but it is not definitive.

http://www.kent.police.uk/about_us/policies/m/m051.html

Perhaps in this case the public would not have been deemed to be involved and the personnel could be tried under military law, but the line is not always clear.

Special forces in the UK are nearly always whisked away to be dealt with internally, the moment they are detained the police have to inform the appropriate military authority, regular military not so much but special forces yes.

[citizen33]

Special forces in the UK are nearly always whisked away to be dealt with internally, the moment they are detained the police have to inform the appropriate military authority, regular military not so much but special forces yes.

Well we are digressing a little, but while what you say may be true in practice, I do not think there is any provision for this in the relevant legislation - which I think includes the Acts in the link plus the the Armed Forces Act 2006. Certainly there is no general legal principle in English law that service personnel do not fall under the criminal law and civilian courts. Did you read my link, which suggested that the navy may have less scope to escape the clutches of the police than the army (though in certain circumstances marines are counted as army)?

Though rare it isn't unknown for serving SAS officers to be arrested.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1375048/SAS-officers-held-trying-leak-secrets-Libya-Afghanistan.html

Edited January 17, 2014 by citizen33