Thai Army chief denies knowing anonymous armed fighters helping protesters

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Army chief denies knowing anonymous armed fighters helping protesters



BANGKOK: -- Army commander-in-Chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha today denied any knowledge of anonymous armed fighters helping anti-government protesters to retaliate anti-riot police during a brief battle at Pan Fah bridge on Ratchadamnoen Avenue Tuesday.

He was asked to comment on the anonymous armed fighters while taking part in the Thai-American Cobra Gold joint military exercise in Chanthaburi province this morning.

He said he has assigned the Army’s deputy spokesperson to clarify the report of the unknown armed men helping protesters to repulse the anti-riot police at the Pan Fah bridge.

He said nobody knew details of the armed group but would like all relevant government agencies to investigate and collect all evidenced for clarity.

He said what they spoke was just a hearsay with nobody having clear information, adding that such hearsay would only confuse the public and undermine peace.

He said he was concerned about the use of war weapon and would like all sides to follow the process of law.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/army-chief-denies-knowing-anonymous-armed-fighters-helping-protesters/


-- Thai PBS 2014-02-21

[Red Snake]

"see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil"

Edited February 21, 2014 by metisdead
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[Patje]

His nick name is Pinocchio

[chainarong]

The only way CIC Gen Prayuth would have no knowledge of this little problem , was if he was never told , that is entirely on the cards under the present combat conditions , happy Cobra exercise General.

[rreddin]

The only way CIC Gen Prayuth would have no knowledge of this little problem , was if he was never told , that is entirely on the cards under the present combat conditions , happy Cobra exercise General.

I am willing to believe the General when he says he has no knowledge of who the armed fifgters helping the protesters are. It is called plausible deniability. The implication of that is worrying. It means one or more of his subordinates is calling those particular shots without his knowledge.

[icommunity]

Of course he does not know. He has been so inept in protecting the people and the 'institutions'.

[ChrisY1]

What would anyone really expect him, or any other of the 1700 generals, to say?

[Why ask]

Of course he does not know. He has been so inept in protecting the people and the 'institutions'.

Are you referencing the fact that he did not step in to do police work?

He is a cautious, and admirable, man. He has evaded a coup, so far, as it hasn't been necessary.

I'd say he's been outstanding, in contrast to 'inept', as you put it.

[seminomadic]

"He said nobody knew details of the armed group but would like all relevant government agencies to investigate and collect all evidenced for clarity."

So that once it is collected, it can be summarily destroyed.

"He said what they spoke was just a hearsay with nobody having clear information, adding that such hearsay would only confuse the public and undermine peace."

Anyone who doesn't have proof positive of what really happened (ie, everyone in the universe) should not comment. Not shutting up about this threatens peace.
General, be a man. Show that you're master of your domain & take responsibility the Thai way - at least allude to the fact that it was the army (what in the **** else could men in black - the same ones who topped Seh Daeng - be under the jurisdiction of?) by saying something to the effect of "Some elite units may have been in plainclothes or otherwise in order to contain the violence [even though they actually instigated it, but we appreciate the need for that sort of diplomacy]"

"He said he was concerned about the use of war weapon and would like all sides to follow the process of law."

Same thing Ban Ki-Moon says when war breaks out in some African sh!thole. Might as well wish for Jao Mae Guan Im to deliver 500,000 unicorns to Bangkokian schoolchildren.

[fab4]

Of course he does not know. He has been so inept in protecting the people and the 'institutions'.

Are you referencing the fact that he did not step in to do police work?

He is a cautious, and admirable, man. He has evaded a coup, so far, as it hasn't been necessary.

I'd say he's been outstanding, in contrast to 'inept', as you put it.

He's anything but admirable, unless your standards are inestimably low.

This is the man who denies his troops shot anybody in 2010.

[seminomadic]

Of course he does not know. He has been so inept in protecting the people and the 'institutions'.

Are you referencing the fact that he did not step in to do police work?

He is a cautious, and admirable, man. He has evaded a coup, so far, as it hasn't been necessary.

I'd say he's been outstanding, in contrast to 'inept', as you put it.

So you think "to coup, or not to coup" is the decision of the General then?

[Scamper]

" He said what they spoke was just a hearsay with nobody having clear information, adding that such hearsay would only confuse the public and undermine peace. "

Indeed, that is what it has done. And unfortunately, why it is likely to continue. The administration is desperate to have a spin that will allow them to crack down on the protesters. The police are loyal advocates to the administration's point of view. That's a dangerous combination. And to have Thaksin's long-time ally, Chalerm, at the head of it is very troubling indeed. Chalerm's attempt to strong-arm the Civil Court on national television will be viewed historically as a treacherous act. And completely unprecedented.

[Why ask]

Of course he does not know. He has been so inept in protecting the people and the 'institutions'.

Are you referencing the fact that he did not step in to do police work?

He is a cautious, and admirable, man. He has evaded a coup, so far, as it hasn't been necessary.

I'd say he's been outstanding, in contrast to 'inept', as you put it.

So you think "to coup, or not to coup" is the decision of the General then?

To coup or not to coup? Now that is the question.

[Patpending]

So during this coup we've had.

the navy seals with the guns and silencers.

Military grade weapons and organisation with PDRC

the Kwanchai hit team with 4 army arrested

The navy and Border patrol team this am in Naratiwas (arrested after they killed 2 locals in a hit and then crashed into a police car as they fled the scene.

How did the media bury such a massive story again. Never mind, we learning that despite looking like newspapers, BP and nation are nothing of the sort,

Just what does the Army chief know about? and is he capable of marshall law in the country?

[gemini81]

Of course he does not know. He has been so inept in protecting the people and the 'institutions'.

Which means you prefer a coup, by default- if you suggest powers are to be handed over to him, rather than delegated to police responsibility.

[winstonc]

"see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil"

well what did you really expect him to say....

[kikoman]

Sardin Lertbutr, a protest leader, said Wednesday on Thai Television that "very professional" men with weapons were assisting protesters and "making the police retreat"

"The Court however found that the protesters were being carried out peacefully without weapons":

Source www.nytimes.com

Maybe a good place for the general to start an investigation!

Cheers

Edited February 21, 2014 by kikoman

[kikoman]

On Tuesday, Protesters attacked the police with a grenade, an action protest leaders initially denied but acknowledged when footage of the detonation circulated on the internet."

source www.nytimes.com

Cheers

Sorry for the same info on the post but I typed the info 5 times and strangely my post disappeared! But it is not a double post , (post #14 disappeared before I completed typing it)!

Edited February 21, 2014 by kikoman

[Crushdepth]

On Tuesday, Protesters attacked the police with a grenade, an action protest leaders initially denied but acknowledged when footage of the detonation circulated on the internet."

source www.nytimes.com

Cheers

Wut? BS. You can't even cite properly, yet alone string a sentence together as well as your beloved one can't. (double negative intended!)

He has no interest in reality. He'd post stories from The Onion as fact if they satirised PDRC.

[Prbkk]

Good grief, no one wants a coup. For one thing the economy could not bear the 30% increase in the military's budget that followed the last one. At least the military got some good use for the money like the IT2000 devices

[casualbiker]

OK. Quick question .. are there ANY pictures or Videos of the (alledged) Anti government shooters?

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Edited February 21, 2014 by casualbiker

[metisdead]

A post in violation of fair use policy has been removed as well as the replies.

[kikoman]

"He said nobody knew details of the armed group but would like all relevant government agencies to investigate and collect all evidenced for clarity."

So that once it is collected, it can be summarily destroyed.

"He said what they spoke was just a hearsay with nobody having clear information, adding that such hearsay would only confuse the public and undermine peace."

Anyone who doesn't have proof positive of what really happened (ie, everyone in the universe) should not comment. Not shutting up about this threatens peace.

General, be a man. Show that you're master of your domain & take responsibility the Thai way - at least allude to the fact that it was the army (what in the **** else could men in black - the same ones who topped Seh Daeng - be under the jurisdiction of?) by saying something to the effect of "Some elite units may have been in plainclothes or otherwise in order to contain the violence [even though they actually instigated it, but we appreciate the need for that sort of diplomacy]"

"He said he was concerned about the use of war weapon and would like all sides to follow the process of law."

Same thing Ban Ki-Moon says when war breaks out in some African sh!thole. Might as well wish for Jao Mae Guan Im to deliver 500,000 unicorns to Bangkokian schoolchildren.

Check out www.nytimes. com,

I know you will most likely be one of those yellows that saw the policeman drop the grenade!

Anyone but an idiot can see it hit the policemans shield as soon as he place it on the flank of the line, had not the policeman that called him over to fill that hole in the sheildline, great thinking save policeman's lives that day, and is the type of man that should be respected (because he earned respect)!

Cheers

Edited February 21, 2014 by kikoman

[Roadman]

Of course he does not know. He has been so inept in protecting the people and the 'institutions'.

Are you referencing the fact that he did not step in to do police work?

He is a cautious, and admirable, man. He has evaded a coup, so far, as it hasn't been necessary.

I'd say he's been outstanding, in contrast to 'inept', as you put it.

He's anything but admirable, unless your standards are inestimably low.

This is the man who denies his troops shot anybody in 2010.

More of your absolute bull sh!t. General Prayuth Chan-ocha become Army chief in October 2010 after the convicted fugitive criminal Thaksin's treacherous attack on Bangkok. More Red bull sh!t from you.

[kikoman]

On Tuesday, Protesters attacked the police with a grenade, an action protest leaders initially denied but acknowledged when footage of the detonation circulated on the internet."

source www.nytimes.com

Cheers

Wut? BS. You can't even cite properly, yet alone string a sentence together as well as your beloved one can't. (double negative intended!)

He has no interest in reality. He'd post stories from The Onion as fact if they satirised PDRC.

Can any one of you deny, the Quote? Do it if it is not a factual Quote!

Anyone (err most) should be able to see the Quote is from the www.nytimes.com, if you have problems with the sentence structure, I would ask you to complain to that site and the author of the article.

As one can not refute the message, their brainless response is to attack the messenger.

Point of Info: the NY times is much more respected than the Nation or BP, Also your onion is most likely more truthful than the Nation!

Cheers

Edited February 21, 2014 by kikoman

[Crushdepth]

Good grief, no one wants a coup. For one thing the economy could not bear the 30% increase in the military's budget that followed the last one. At least the military got some good use for the money like the IT2000 devices

This is one of those statistics that needs to be put in perspective. 30% sounds like a lot but in terms of GDP expenditure on defence Thailand had been falling for many years and was significantly lower than other countries in the region. It was an adjustment (and possibly also a reaction to an increasingly assertive China).

I'm not going to suggest that it was widely spent.

[Crushdepth]

"He said nobody knew details of the armed group but would like all relevant government agencies to investigate and collect all evidenced for clarity."

So that once it is collected, it can be summarily destroyed.

"He said what they spoke was just a hearsay with nobody having clear information, adding that such hearsay would only confuse the public and undermine peace."

Anyone who doesn't have proof positive of what really happened (ie, everyone in the universe) should not comment. Not shutting up about this threatens peace.

General, be a man. Show that you're master of your domain & take responsibility the Thai way - at least allude to the fact that it was the army (what in the **** else could men in black - the same ones who topped Seh Daeng - be under the jurisdiction of?) by saying something to the effect of "Some elite units may have been in plainclothes or otherwise in order to contain the violence [even though they actually instigated it, but we appreciate the need for that sort of diplomacy]"

"He said he was concerned about the use of war weapon and would like all sides to follow the process of law."

Same thing Ban Ki-Moon says when war breaks out in some African sh!thole. Might as well wish for Jao Mae Guan Im to deliver 500,000 unicorns to Bangkokian schoolchildren.

Check out www.nytimes. com,

I know you will most likely be one of those yellows that saw the policeman drop the grenade!

Anyone but an idiot can see it hit the policemans shield as soon as he place it on the flank of the line, had not the policeman that called him over to fill that hole in the sheildline, great thinking save policeman's lives that day, and is the type of man that should be respected (because he earned respect)!

Cheers

So how do you know it was a 'yellow' that threw the grenade and not a governments sponsored provocateur?

You don't.

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[casualbiker]

I ask again are there ACTUALLY ANY pictures or videos of these armed anti government people??? If yes. Kindly post. If NO.. how is that possible!

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[gemini81]

"He said nobody knew details of the armed group but would like all relevant government agencies to investigate and collect all evidenced for clarity."

So that once it is collected, it can be summarily destroyed.

"He said what they spoke was just a hearsay with nobody having clear information, adding that such hearsay would only confuse the public and undermine peace."

Anyone who doesn't have proof positive of what really happened (ie, everyone in the universe) should not comment. Not shutting up about this threatens peace.

General, be a man. Show that you're master of your domain & take responsibility the Thai way - at least allude to the fact that it was the army (what in the **** else could men in black - the same ones who topped Seh Daeng - be under the jurisdiction of?) by saying something to the effect of "Some elite units may have been in plainclothes or otherwise in order to contain the violence [even though they actually instigated it, but we appreciate the need for that sort of diplomacy]"

"He said he was concerned about the use of war weapon and would like all sides to follow the process of law."

Same thing Ban Ki-Moon says when war breaks out in some African sh!thole. Might as well wish for Jao Mae Guan Im to deliver 500,000 unicorns to Bangkokian schoolchildren.

Check out www.nytimes. com,

I know you will most likely be one of those yellows that saw the policeman drop the grenade!

Anyone but an idiot can see it hit the policemans shield as soon as he place it on the flank of the line, had not the policeman that called him over to fill that hole in the sheildline, great thinking save policeman's lives that day, and is the type of man that should be respected (because he earned respect)!

Cheers

So how do you know it was a 'yellow' that threw the grenade and not a governments sponsored provocateur?

You don't.

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There is no footage who threw it...just suspicion. Dare we look at the past, the reputation based on behavior and notorious violence.....we begin to paint a picture of just who may do such things.....

[seminomadic]

I know you will most likely be one of those yellows that saw the policeman drop the grenade!

Unless you're being sarcastic, you're really, really not paying attention. Maybe another read of my post will help.

I looked at NYTimes, no stories relevant with video. Only 'court limits crackdown', 'TH economic growth cools' & 'police push back'

If you don't want to post the link here, PM me.