Surapong says government is ready to talk with PDRC

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Surapong says government is ready to talk with PDRC



BANGKOK: -- Deputy Prime Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul said today (Monday) that the government was ready to talk with People’s Democratic Reform Committee secretary-general Suthep Thaugsuban to resolve the protracted political impasse.

He said that normalcy would be restored and the country could move forward once Mr Suthep called off the anti-government protests which have dragged on for more than three months.

The deputy prime minister, however, dismissed as groundless the PDRC’s allegation that the government was responsible for the fatal attacks in Trat’s Khao Saming district and at Ratchaprasong protest site during the weekends in which four people, including three children, were killed and more than 50 injured.

Meanwhile, Army Commander-in-Chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha pleaded with the two arch rivals in the current political conflict to come to the negotiating table.

Speaking on TV Channel 5 today, the army chief expressed his concern towards the escalating violence in the aftermath of the two fatal attacks during the weekends. He said that the current situation was more complicated than the one three years ago and was afraid that the situation could worsen.

However, he assured that the military would exercise extreme restraint and would not resort to force to resolve the conflict.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/surapong-says-government-ready-talk-pdrc/


-- Thai PBS 2014-02-24

[jaidam]

Normalcy can be restored when Surapong stops fomenting anarchy by crapping on the countries laws, like when he hand delivered a diplomatic passport to a criminal fugitive on the run abroad. Be a good boy, go grovel to the ombudsman who has been patiently waiting for you, and let somebody that is really qualified for a FM job to take the position. Disgraceful.

[JesseFrank]

Surapong conveniently forgot to add to the statement, that it is supposed to be another round of one way talks, where the government sets the rules and the expected results.

[TVGerry]

Someone last week seemed to have predicted that after Suthep started targeting Thaksin's businesses, the government would be more open for discussions. Someone called it right.

[Prbkk]

Someone last week seemed to have predicted that after Suthep started targeting Thaksin's businesses, the government would be more open for discussions. Someone called it right.

they have been offering talks for weeks, months. Nothing new here. It is Suthep's brinkmanship and intransigence that make resolution and dialogue difficult

[Chang_paarp]

Has he checked with Chalerm about this statement? I'm sure Chalerm has a very different opinion about talking with the opposition, unless they have large quantities of quality "ear medicine".

[Scamper]

No one is swayed by Surapong's invitation, as all such invitations in the past - like the " forum " Yingluck and Surapong officiated over a month ago - will be anything other than to bow to the administration's will at each and every turn. Surapong - in his maddenly somnambulistic addresses - has done everything to convey an inner kind of madness - from his international opinion updates - which all apparently enthusiastically endorse the administration - to his admonitions of the EC - to his call for punitive sanctions against the PDRC and any who support it. He's the mouthpiece of his cousin, Thaksin. And everything he says manages to freeze before it hits the ground.

[JesseFrank]

Someone last week seemed to have predicted that after Suthep started targeting Thaksin's businesses, the government would be more open for discussions. Someone called it right.

they have been offering talks for weeks, months. Nothing new here. It is Suthep's brinkmanship and intransigence that make resolution and dialogue difficult

Indeed they do, each time they are driven into a new corner, but their offers are onesided so nobody is interested in those talks.

And that includes many other organisations than Suthep.

[ShannonT]

Someone last week seemed to have predicted that after Suthep started targeting Thaksin's businesses, the government would be more open for discussions. Someone called it right.

Someone predicted that the sun would come up this morning and it did. Let's build him a shrine.

The government has been offering talks to Suthep since November 2013, virtually every week. There are dozen of news posts here to back it up. Suthep has been rejecting talks every single time. His goal is not a peaceful solution. He will reject this one, too.

When my prediction becomes reality, be sure to quote it.

[whybother]

"Suthep, stop your protests, and normalcy will be returned. We'll continue raping the country, and ignore the independent agencies. All will be normal."

[webfact]

Pradith says Yingluck wants to talk to PDRC

BANGKOK: -- Caretaker Public Health Minister Pradith Sinthawanarong said Monday that Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra wanted to negotiate with the leaders of People's Democratic Reform Committee to seek a solution for the political deadlock.

He said Yingluck does not want to cling to her premier position and does not want to fight to be a premier forever. But she wanted the election to proceed in line with the rules.

Pradith was speaking after visiting injured people at Rajavithi hospital, saying he does not want to see more innocent people die.


-- The Nation 2014-02-24

[TVGerry]

Someone last week seemed to have predicted that after Suthep started targeting Thaksin's businesses, the government would be more open for discussions. Someone called it right.

Someone predicted that the sun would come up this morning and it did. Let's build him a shrine.

The government has been offering talks to Suthep since November 2013, virtually every week. There are dozen of news posts here to back it up. Suthep has been rejecting talks every single time. His goal is not a peaceful solution. He will reject this one, too.

When my prediction becomes reality, be sure to quote it.

Oh he might reject it. However, the government may actually offer him more now that their boss's businesses are being threatened. We shall see.

[fab4]

No one is swayed by Surapong's invitation, as all such invitations in the past - like the " forum " Yingluck and Surapong officiated over a month ago - will be anything other than to bow to the administration's will at each and every turn. Surapong - in his maddenly somnambulistic addresses - has done everything to convey an inner kind of madness - from his international opinion updates - which all apparently enthusiastically endorse the administration - to his admonitions of the EC - to his call for punitive sanctions against the PDRC and any who support it. He's the mouthpiece of his cousin, Thaksin. And everything he says manages to freeze before it hits the ground.

What on earth is that last sentence supposed to mean?

[ikurauni]

The government wants to talk. We heard that before. They want to talk with preconditions.

The government wants to keep their position as the precondition for the peace talk.

It does not work at all.

I think talking is the best solution.

Why don't they mention to public what the preconditions they have for the peace talk?

[MaxLee]

Pradith says Yingluck wants to talk to PDRC

Yep,... "Dear PDRC, you nasty nasty PDRC, it was all your fault and the fault of the FALANG..."

[lovetotravel]

Someone last week seemed to have predicted that after Suthep started targeting Thaksin's businesses, the government would be more open for discussions. Someone called it right.

they have been offering talks for weeks, months. Nothing new here. It is Suthep's brinkmanship and intransigence that make resolution and dialogue difficult

Show one link to a press release where the current government has offered, and enacted, a concession to the opposition. You can even go back several years. Setting up their own council with no input from the opposition doesn't count.

[ozvenison]

how many SC Group shares do you think Suthep has started buying now..

A great bargain when they bounce back after this shit is over

[whybother]

He said Yingluck does not want to cling to her premier position and does not want to fight to be a premier forever. But she wanted the election to proceed in line with the rules.

Resign Yingluck. Then elections will have a chance of continuing.

[AllanB]

He said Yingluck does not want to cling to her premier position and does not want to fight to be a premier forever. But she wanted the election to proceed in line with the rules.

Resign Yingluck. Then elections will have a chance of continuing.

Why should she, she was elected and will probably be reelected?

Either you have democracy with all it's faults, or you let the army run things, like they do in Myanmar.

So the reds buy votes, so do all sides, it is just that the reds deal in cash.

Taksin was okay, but he upset the wrong people (the hoods) and you can't do that politics, anywhere. Now he works through his sister to run things, what's wrong with that?

Anyway this will run and run.......

[fab4]

He said Yingluck does not want to cling to her premier position and does not want to fight to be a premier forever. But she wanted the election to proceed in line with the rules.

Resign Yingluck. Then elections will have a chance of continuing.

So you've gone over to the dark side. You're quite happy with the tactics of suthep of blocking the election until Yingluck resigns?

Why should she? The elections should be finished in a democratic way without hindrance from suthep, his mobs or the so called EC.

Then reforms can be discussed and suthep taken to court.

[kjun12]

Normalcy can be restored when Surapong stops fomenting anarchy by crapping on the countries laws, like when he hand delivered a diplomatic passport to a criminal fugitive on the run abroad. Be a good boy, go grovel to the ombudsman who has been patiently waiting for you, and let somebody that is really qualified for a FM job to take the position. Disgraceful.

It appears that you conveniently forget that Suthep "THE CROOK" was somewhat involved in the corrupt government in which the UNELECTED Democratic government ruled the country giving everything they could to their graft ridden supporters.

[billsmart]

Normalcy can be restored when Surapong stops fomenting anarchy by crapping on the countries laws, like when he hand delivered a diplomatic passport to a criminal fugitive on the run abroad. Be a good boy, go grovel to the ombudsman who has been patiently waiting for you, and let somebody that is really qualified for a FM job to take the position. Disgraceful.

It seems to me that Suthep is the one "fomenting anarchy by crapping on the countries (sic) laws", like encouraging protests which block public streets, seizing public buildings, destroying public property, disobeying police, threatening the PM and her family all in a desperate attempt to overthrow a democratically-elected government, disenfranchising the electorate and establish some kind of appointed government to wrest control of the country from the common rural people and hand it back over to the Bangkok elitists.

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Someone predicted that the sun would come up this morning and it did. Let's build him a shrine.

The government has been offering talks to Suthep since November 2013, virtually every week. There are dozen of news posts here to back it up. Suthep has been rejecting talks every single time. His goal is not a peaceful solution. He will reject this one, too.

When my prediction becomes reality, be sure to quote it.

Yeah but how come you've omitted the full / balanced details?

[Baerboxer]

Someone last week seemed to have predicted that after Suthep started targeting Thaksin's businesses, the government would be more open for discussions. Someone called it right.

they have been offering talks for weeks, months. Nothing new here. It is Suthep's brinkmanship and intransigence that make resolution and dialogue difficult

They have been spouting the same rhetoric for months - we can talk, you listen.

Unfortunately PTPs idea of talks is exact;y that. They only want their version, their agenda and you must listen and stop protesting. All offers just a show really. The most contentious item is the one that kicked all this off - the Amnesty Bill which as carefully stage managed, or so they thought, and then backfired.

It's hard to talk with a group known for telling lies, breaking promises and ignoring laws.

[scorecard]

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I can really see the attraction in Suthep talking to Yingluck.

I could pull a can of sardines out of the cupboard and he would get more sense out of that.

You can't reason with someone like that in a million years. She needs to step down and let the people turn the country back round before her presence and stubbornness to do what her brother tells her, really puts Thailand in the history books for all the wrong reasons.

She has a great exit strategy handed to her, and still she refuses.

So be it... Let the game play out to the worst results and everyone will remember her name for a long time to come.... as another Mugabe.

Plus, she blindly / stubbornly reinforces again and again that she is a fake.

[marcusd]

Someone last week seemed to have predicted that after Suthep started targeting Thaksin's businesses, the government would be more open for discussions. Someone called it right.

they have been offering talks for weeks, months. Nothing new here. It is Suthep's brinkmanship and intransigence that make resolution and dialogue difficult

I actually agree with you on this one but it takes 2 to talk and achieve action and neither of the sides are willing to listen or compromise.

[Gweiloman]

Someone last week seemed to have predicted that after Suthep started targeting Thaksin's businesses, the government would be more open for discussions. Someone called it right.

Someone predicted that the sun would come up this morning and it did. Let's build him a shrine.

The government has been offering talks to Suthep since November 2013, virtually every week. There are dozen of news posts here to back it up. Suthep has been rejecting talks every single time. His goal is not a peaceful solution. He will reject this one, too.

When my prediction becomes reality, be sure to quote it.

I predict the sun will set in about 2 hrs time. I predict that the crowd of protestors and passers by at the Asoke rally site will number around 250 - 300 pax this evening. I predict that there will be a song played at around 6 pm that will cause all the above to stand. I predict that there will be speeches and music on stage till around 1 am and everyone will then bugger off.

Actually, those are not predictions but just calculated guesses based on painfully collected empirical data over the past few months. I will quote myself if proven right

[tullynagardy]

No one is swayed by Surapong's invitation, as all such invitations in the past - like the " forum " Yingluck and Surapong officiated over a month ago - will be anything other than to bow to the administration's will at each and every turn. Surapong - in his maddenly somnambulistic addresses - has done everything to convey an inner kind of madness - from his international opinion updates - which all apparently enthusiastically endorse the administration - to his admonitions of the EC - to his call for punitive sanctions against the PDRC and any who support it. He's the mouthpiece of his cousin, Thaksin. And everything he says manages to freeze before it hits the ground.

So sad that after this latest round of murders its still the same triumphalist bile you spout on here everyday that offers nothing more but conflict.

In this fight there can be no winners and loosers, it isnt a football match. There can be conflict or there can be compromise and peace.

I grew up in somewhere with 2 sides even more divided than here, with many more deaths than here, (80`s Belfast) and it was a victory that brought an end to the conflict it was compromise on all sides. If people like myself can tolerate mass murderers of our own families in our government, Im quite sure people in Thailand can tolerate Thaskin or red shirt related people.

Suthep and his cronies (and the right wing sexpats that cheer them here) need to be very clear - there can be no overall victory where everyone from the other side of the political spectrum disappears off the face of the earth and you live in your own yellow shirt utopia. There can be a compromise where Yingluck will dissappear off the scene and legislation made to combat corruption. This is all you can hope for and your hand is weakening everyday, take it now before its too late.

[whybother]

He said Yingluck does not want to cling to her premier position and does not want to fight to be a premier forever. But she wanted the election to proceed in line with the rules.

Resign Yingluck. Then elections will have a chance of continuing.

So you've gone over to the dark side. You're quite happy with the tactics of suthep of blocking the election until Yingluck resigns?

Why should she? The elections should be finished in a democratic way without hindrance from suthep, his mobs or the so called EC.

Then reforms can be discussed and suthep taken to court.

The protesters won't go until she (and Thaksin) is gone. The problems in Thailand since late 2005 have been because of Thaksin. Get them out of the way and then Thailand can move forward.

That does NOT mean that I support Suthep's "People's Council". Yingluck resigning doesn't mean that PTP can't continue in government.

[JAG]

He said Yingluck does not want to cling to her premier position and does not want to fight to be a premier forever. But she wanted the election to proceed in line with the rules.

Resign Yingluck. Then elections will have a chance of continuing.

Why should she, she was elected and will probably be reelected?

Either you have democracy with all it's faults, or you let the army run things, like they do in Myanmar.

So the reds buy votes, so do all sides, it is just that the reds deal in cash.

Taksin was okay, but he upset the wrong people (the hoods) and you can't do that politics, anywhere. Now he works through his sister to run things, what's wrong with that?

Anyway this will run and run.......

Why should she, she was elected and will probably be reelected?

What..... with a shitty 8 million votes?

What planet did you just land from. The Dems would win ANY election, and I bet they are waiting for their next chance, and they will pounce.

Any rerun will see her get even less when the farmers realise they have been lied to once again.

Stop spouting 'democracy'.... that system has never existed in Thailand and what pitiful excuse for democracy that did exist was executed of the alter by Thaksin and his PTP cronies.

Go back to your planet.

Irrespective of whatever planet any of us may come from ( I've always favoured the Planet Zanussi myself), to state that the "Dems will win any election" shows a leap of faith which could probably be described as intergalactic!

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