Police coy over new probe into Koh Tao murders

[IAMHERE]

"Innocent until we prove them guilty...however long it takes"

Please, do not be so hard on the police.

[jspill]

jspill post # 28.

I can think of a Thai word that sounds like coy to describe the police.

Why are we or you waiting?

Well come along enlighten us all with your profound knowledge.

I thought it was obvious, it's a common swear word in Thai, hardly profound knowledge. The guy who liked my post got the joke. Must be on an Ed visa.

[Mooner]

I am sure that the two Myanmar kids are "coy" aswell, with the prospect of the deathpenalty for a crime, they didn't commit!!

Please share the evidence you have that proves the accused are innocent Sherlock !!

Funny enough it seems that the RTP have same problem proving they are guilty!

[Waffle]

I see the internet warriors are still in full force. I too am fed up with everyone thinking that they know better, or that they could have done a better job. It is so unbecoming and ugly. The very fact that the media jumps on this as a gravy train is despicable.

Two people were brutally murdered and you all want to discuss it on social media like it is the latest soap, 80% of the commentators do not even live here(koh tao). Alot of people I know here now are fed up with this and also want their peace back. This is real life and your words have seriously affected a criminal case, not only is this unprofessional it is on outright disregard for the justice of this family. Imagine what watching the news is like for them because of today's comments.

I fully support the RTP in their prosecution of people breaking the computer crimes act. Thailand 5 years ago may have struggled in finding and prosecuting offenders but thanks to modern technology and users not understanding or knowing about it, it is now much easier. ThaiVisa itself I believe is also going to be affected. The very fact they have allowed the farce to continue would be in breach. The only chance they stand is to openly divulge all user information to the Police.

To speculate about a crime is an offence.

"He said posting information which is inaccurate and false could breach Article 14 of the Computer Crime Act and is subject to five year imprisonment and 100,000 baht fine or both." - Royal Thai Police commissioner Pol Gen Somyot Phumphanmuang.

Section 14. If any person commits any offence of the following acts shall be subject to imprisonment for not more than five years or a fine of not more than one hundred thousand baht or both:

(1) that involves import to a computer system of forged computer data, either in whole or in part, or false computer data, in a manner that is likely to cause damage to that third party or the public;

(2) that involves import to a computer system of false computer data in a manner that is likely to damage the country's security or cause a public panic;

(3) that involves import to a computer system of any computer data related with an offence against the Kingdom's security under the Criminal Code;

(4) that involves import to a computer system of any computer data of a pornographic nature that is publicly accessible;

(5) that involves the dissemination or forwarding of computer data already known to be computer data under (1) (2) (3) or (4);

I have been involved with IT on a professional level my whole life.I love computers, but I hate the people who use them. People in the real world are so different.They tend to think before they speak. Most to check if what are they going to say will offend someone or affect something, most will shy away from saying it if that is about to happen. When people speak online the same is not true. Many studies have been done on this, and most developed countries now enforce laws to get rid of this ugly side of internet use.

There are procedures of doing things, involved in the case now are the Biritsh Embassy, British Prime Minister, Burmese Embassy, Thai Activist Groups, Human Rights Commissions, British Police and so many more professional bodies. And you all think you need to do their job for them.

PS. On Further Inspection, ThaiVisa would come under this.

Section 15. Any service provider intentionally supporting or consenting to an offence under Section 14 within a computer system under their control shall be subject to the same penalty as that imposed upon a person committing an offence under Section 14.

Good!

Long may it continue.

Edited November 6, 2014 by metisdead
16) You will not make changes to quoted material from other members posts, except for purposes of shortening the quoted post. This cannot be done in such a manner that it alters the context of the original post.

[Soiyamoto]

please don't say bad things about the RTP, it would make them feel sad

. Ha ha ha. Great

[mrtoad]

Adam Twilley , he's the guy working on a tourist visa as a dive master

Nothing to see here, move on.

Adam Twilley , he's the guy working on a tourist visa as a dive master?

Nothing to see here, move on.

Edited November 6, 2014 by mrtoad

[BoristheBlade]

The DNA test at best only shows he did not rape, how does the test clear him of murder?

If the test was done to international standards at all

But was he not in Bangkok anyway?

Were you in Bangkok at the time of the murders Mr Nomsod?

<Official DNA test results have showed his son was not involved in the murders> QUOTE

"Official" (like in paid) is the main word here!!

[BoristheBlade]

The Phoenix will die in the ashes

[BoristheBlade]

If Mr. Tuwichian's next press conference can prove Mr Nomsod was not on the Island, then its apologies all round for his son.

If he was my son, I would be doing everything in my power to prove he was in Bangkok,If he was there ,the kid must be going through hell with all the accusations.

Prove he was in Bangkok, then the accusation MUST stop and Nomsod is innocent.

[jdinasia]

If Mr. Tuwichian's next press conference can prove Mr Nomsod was not on the Island, then its apologies all round for his son.

If he was my son, I would be doing everything in my power to prove he was in Bangkok,If he was there ,the kid must be going through hell with all the accusations.

Prove he was in Bangkok, then the accusation MUST stop and Nomsod is innocent.

So, even when not a suspect, your rule is guilty until proven innocent?

[easybullet3]

Way to go Burma. UK take note.

i must have missed a week or 2 of news.

didnt the UK send some police to come and investigate?

what happened there?

in this article it says the case has not been reopened,, so does this mean that the UK police didnt do anything?

[sabaitoo]

Adam Twilley , he's the guy working on a tourist visa as a dive master

Nothing to see here, move on.

Adam Twilley , he's the guy working on a tourist visa as a dive master?

Nothing to see here, move on.

He would not worry about that, They are normally warned before Immigration show up on the Island..well put is this way they were normally warned before Immigration showed up on the Island and now they are pissing their pants because the Island is in the spotlight, so maybe it wont be so easy for those working without permits anymore...kind of makes them desparate...and desparate calls for desparate measures..kind of explains those goofy posts

But now the name Adam Twilley will ( hopefully thanks to good IT) ring a warning bell by the next entry

[metisdead]

Posts containing unsubstantiated content from a facebook page or other blog sites have been removed. CSILA is not a credible source of information, don't bother posting content from that site.

[Thingamabob]

An interesting use of the word ''coy.''

1

1.

artfully or affectedly shy or reserved; slyly hesitant; coquettish.

2.

shy; modest.

3.

showing reluctance, especially when insincere or affected, to reveal one's

plans or opinions, make a commitment, or take a stand:

The mayor was coy about his future political aspirations.

4.

Archaic. disdainful; aloof.

Indeed the definition of the word ''coy'' in connection to the police farce force is somewhat apt with the exclusion of number 2 of course.

[BoristheBlade]

who said guilty, he is under suspicion from the general public, HE WAS UNDER SUSPICION from the RTP

The original Police Officer on the case said Nomsod had fled the Island, and the Police were seeking him

If The Police said he was on the island, that would make the cctv in Bangkok void

If Mr. Tuwichian's next press conference can prove Mr Nomsod was not on the Island, then its apologies all round for his son.

If he was my son, I would be doing everything in my power to prove he was in Bangkok,If he was there ,the kid must be going through hell with all the accusations.

Prove he was in Bangkok, then the accusation MUST stop and Nomsod is innocent.

So, even when not a suspect, your rule is guilty until proven innocent?

[Thingamabob]

Amazing thing is nobody seems to be mentioning the CCTV footage which shows somebody remarkably like the son of the bar owner running away from the scene of the crime. Maybe he has a twin, or has the super-human ability to be on the island and in Bangkok at the same time.

[jdinasia]

who said guilty, he is under suspicion from the general public, HE WAS UNDER SUSPICION from the RTP

The original Police Officer on the case said Nomsod had fled the Island, and the Police were seeking him

If The Police said he was on the island, that would make the cctv in Bangkok void

If Mr. Tuwichian's next press conference can prove Mr Nomsod was not on the Island, then its apologies all round for his son.

If he was my son, I would be doing everything in my power to prove he was in Bangkok,If he was there ,the kid must be going through hell with all the accusations.

Prove he was in Bangkok, then the accusation MUST stop and Nomsod is innocent.

So, even when not a suspect, your rule is guilty until proven innocent?

The police had theories before that. Should we be defaming the Wares?

Cleared is cleared.

A question never once answered by the hang em high crowd. They claim that the furniture shown in a still picture from one of the sources that removed him as a suspect was gone long before. Not one news agency from Thailand or abroad has confirmed this claim.

Either social media is having no real impact or there is simply no evidence that the conspiracy theory is true.

Shall we go back to the jilted gay lover theory now?

[BoristheBlade]

No, lets go back to the mobile phone found outside the Burmese residence.....it was Hanna's...."no Hanaa's was handed in by her best friend"...Ohhhh Sh^t it was Davids..." his was found by his body" well he had 2 ..."yes one was in his luggage" well he had 3!!!

who said guilty, he is under suspicion from the general public, HE WAS UNDER SUSPICION from the RTP

The original Police Officer on the case said Nomsod had fled the Island, and the Police were seeking him

If The Police said he was on the island, that would make the cctv in Bangkok void

If Mr. Tuwichian's next press conference can prove Mr Nomsod was not on the Island, then its apologies all round for his son.

If he was my son, I would be doing everything in my power to prove he was in Bangkok,If he was there ,the kid must be going through hell with all the accusations.

Prove he was in Bangkok, then the accusation MUST stop and Nomsod is innocent.

So, even when not a suspect, your rule is guilty until proven innocent?

The police had theories before that. Should we be defaming the Wares?

Cleared is cleared.


A question never once answered by the hang em high crowd. They claim that the furniture shown in a still picture from one of the sources that removed him as a suspect was gone long before. Not one news agency from Thailand or abroad has confirmed this claim.

Either social media is having no real impact or there is simply no evidence that the conspiracy theory is true.


Shall we go back to the jilted gay lover theory now?

[fxe1200]

The DNA test at best only shows he did not rape, how does the test clear him of murder?

If the test was done to international standards at all

But was he not in Bangkok anyway?

Were you in Bangkok at the time of the murders Mr Nomsod?

<Official DNA test results have showed his son was not involved in the murders> QUOTE

"Official" (like in paid) is the main word here!!

Please post no false or possible false information.You might go to jail or fined or both. But it is not forbidden to ask questions

.

I i.e.: Are there ant records of a speedboat, which might had left the island in that certain night? Or this one: What did Nomsod say about his experiences in that very night, what was he doing in Bangkok, whom did he call and such. Were his telephone connections checked, where did he call from? Questions, no accusations, no false information either.

[jdinasia]

No, lets go back to the mobile phone found outside the Burmese residence.....it was Hanna's...."no Hanaa's was handed in by her best friend"...Ohhhh Sh^t it was Davids..." his was found by his body" well he had 2 ..."yes one was in his luggage" well he had 3!!!

who said guilty, he is under suspicion from the general public, HE WAS UNDER SUSPICION from the RTP

The original Police Officer on the case said Nomsod had fled the Island, and the Police were seeking him

If The Police said he was on the island, that would make the cctv in Bangkok void

If Mr. Tuwichian's next press conference can prove Mr Nomsod was not on the Island, then its apologies all round for his son.

If he was my son, I would be doing everything in my power to prove he was in Bangkok,If he was there ,the kid must be going through hell with all the accusations.

Prove he was in Bangkok, then the accusation MUST stop and Nomsod is innocent.

So, even when not a suspect, your rule is guilty until proven innocent?

The police had theories before that. Should we be defaming the Wares?

Cleared is cleared.

A question never once answered by the hang em high crowd. They claim that the furniture shown in a still picture from one of the sources that removed him as a suspect was gone long before. Not one news agency from Thailand or abroad has confirmed this claim.

Either social media is having no real impact or there is simply no evidence that the conspiracy theory is true.

Shall we go back to the jilted gay lover theory now?

I understand, awfully inconvenient to have other former suspects including Burmese, but get caught focusing on only one and declaring him guilty.

[Travelman868]

I would question the word Coy, more like egg all over their face , it isn't the first time and looking at the RTP exceptional talent it won't be the last by along shot, the worrying prospect is that any new inquiry will only be able to use the evidence available, that might be not enough in the eye's of experts , so they will just muddle about and crap on as usual and still either arrive at the same conclusion or dither till everyone forgets about the case and it goes under the radar like quite a few do.

What was the outcome in the Red Bull case ???

[Waffle]

who said guilty, he is under suspicion from the general public, HE WAS UNDER SUSPICION from the RTP

The original Police Officer on the case said Nomsod had fled the Island, and the Police were seeking him

If The Police said he was on the island, that would make the cctv in Bangkok void

If Mr. Tuwichian's next press conference can prove Mr Nomsod was not on the Island, then its apologies all round for his son.

If he was my son, I would be doing everything in my power to prove he was in Bangkok,If he was there ,the kid must be going through hell with all the accusations.

Prove he was in Bangkok, then the accusation MUST stop and Nomsod is innocent.

So, even when not a suspect, your rule is guilty until proven innocent?

The police had theories before that. Should we be defaming the Wares?

Cleared is cleared.

A question never once answered by the hang em high crowd. They claim that the furniture shown in a still picture from one of the sources that removed him as a suspect was gone long before. Not one news agency from Thailand or abroad has confirmed this claim.

Either social media is having no real impact or there is simply no evidence that the conspiracy theory is true.

Shall we go back to the jilted gay lover theory now?

Keep telling yourself that.

You are up night and day posting so it is having a real impact on your life.

Everybody is talking about this murder on the net and in real life. Everybody knows the B2 are innocent and who really committed these murders.

Social media will never leave Nomsod and his family alone, it's out of ours hands at this stage.

Kao Tao is finished.

Thank you for attracting more people to these discussions.

Regards.

[stephen terry]

<Official DNA test results have showed his son was not involved in the murders> QUOTE

"Official" (like in paid) is the main word here!!

I have no idea if this occurred, (Officials Paid) as I have never been in any meetings with this man or any others, when such a situation could have allegedly occurred. You seem to be so sure, have you? Do you have any photos or direct evidence? If not, shut up, until you know for sure and then, if you have direct factual evidence, provide it to the relevant authorities.

Same applies to the DNA test. Until we know for sure that this has not been comprised, then stop the speculation. I'd hate to be on trial with some of your type on the jury. A fair and just result, don't think so.

Armchair investigators who base everything on assumptions and speculation and then cast aspersions on people they do not know. If it's ever proved that something like this occurred then I am prepared to apoligise but until we know for sure give this type of hype a break.

I take it you haven't watched the re-enactment scene. That should make you question who might be responsible for the murders.

Try this one: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/thailand-beach-murders-suspects-reenact-4370944

[stephen terry]

<Official DNA test results have showed his son was not involved in the murders> QUOTE

"Official" (like in paid) is the main word here!!

Wonder why the lawyers of the two suspects till now didn't ask for a new DNA-test for them. Or have I missed something in the news?

Two reasons: the first is not conclusive, and I wouldn't trust the RTP one inch. Yes, you've missed the whole point.

[Local Drunk]

Do I need to post the "She's a Witch" vid from Monty Python again?

[stephen terry]

<Official DNA test results have showed his son was not involved in the murders> QUOTE

"Official" (like in paid) is the main word here!!

I have no idea if this occurred, (Officials Paid) as I have never been in any meetings with this man or any others, when such a situation could have allegedly occurred. You seem to be so sure, have you? Do you have any photos or direct evidence? If not, shut up, until you know for sure and then, if you have direct factual evidence, provide it to the relevant authorities.

Same applies to the DNA test. Until we know for sure that this has not been comprised, then stop the speculation. I'd hate to be on trial with some of your type on the jury. A fair and just result, don't think so.

Armchair investigators who base everything on assumptions and speculation and then cast aspersions on people they do not know. If it's ever proved that something like this occurred then I am prepared to apoligise but until we know for sure give this type of hype a break.

It's been reported that the headman controlled the samples. Your assertion has as little credibility than anyone else.

[phuketandsee]

Amazing thing is nobody seems to be mentioning the CCTV footage which shows somebody remarkably like the son of the bar owner running away from the scene of the crime. Maybe he has a twin, or has the super-human ability to be on the island and in Bangkok at the same time.

Boy you really are a newbie. This has been discussed at length in numerous threads as well as extensively on the page we cannot name

[stephen terry]

If the DNA is a genuine match then that is rather damning evidence that no amount of complaint can answer.

Sent from my i-mobile IQ 1 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

i take it you haven't lived here long to believe such crap?

[Local Drunk]

<Official DNA test results have showed his son was not involved in the murders> QUOTE

"Official" (like in paid) is the main word here!!

I have no idea if this occurred, (Officials Paid) as I have never been in any meetings with this man or any others, when such a situation could have allegedly occurred. You seem to be so sure, have you? Do you have any photos or direct evidence? If not, shut up, until you know for sure and then, if you have direct factual evidence, provide it to the relevant authorities.

Same applies to the DNA test. Until we know for sure that this has not been comprised, then stop the speculation. I'd hate to be on trial with some of your type on the jury. A fair and just result, don't think so.

Armchair investigators who base everything on assumptions and speculation and then cast aspersions on people they do not know. If it's ever proved that something like this occurred then I am prepared to apoligise but until we know for sure give this type of hype a break.

It's been reported that the headman controlled the samples. Your assertion has as little credibility than anyone else.

It's been reported... by who? Anyone can be accused of anything at anytime. It's mob mentality and has no basis in reality. Let's burn the witch...

[jdinasia]

QUOTE

"Official" (like in paid) is the main word here!!

I have no idea if this occurred, (Officials Paid) as I have never been in any meetings with this man or any others, when such a situation could have allegedly occurred. You seem to be so sure, have you? Do you have any photos or direct evidence? If not, shut up, until you know for sure and then, if you have direct factual evidence, provide it to the relevant authorities.

Same applies to the DNA test. Until we know for sure that this has not been comprised, then stop the speculation. I'd hate to be on trial with some of your type on the jury. A fair and just result, don't think so.

Armchair investigators who base everything on assumptions and speculation and then cast aspersions on people they do not know. If it's ever proved that something like this occurred then I am prepared to apoligise but until we know for sure give this type of hype a break.

It's been reported that the headman controlled the samples. Your assertion has as little credibility than anyone else.

Reported where? Samples taken by a hospital employee..