THE England thread

[mommysboy]

Notable victory. 

[wilai]

Played well. Three virtual tap ins for Rhian, but you have to be in the right place, right time! Foden as good as ever and the defence, especially Latibeaudiere, much more solid in 2nd half (despite what the idiot pundit on Eurosport was coming out with!)

[mrbojangles]

Other semi just kicked off. Mali or Spain? Not seen anything of Mali but they must be decent

[wilai]

Spain cruised to victory 3-1. Mali played as individuals and were easily beaten in the end.

 

Final on Saturday at 21:30 Thai time. A repeat of the Euros Final when Spain equalised in 6th minute of injury time and won on pens.

[wilai]

World Cup Final Line Up

 

 

[wilai]

Losing 1-2 at half time. Dodgy offside 1st goal from the Spaniards. Brewster with his 8th of the tournament got the reply. England with most of the ball and still anyones game.

[wilai]

Gibbs-White with the equaliser. Game on.

 

Foden with a tap in....3-2

 

Chelsea's Guehi with a fourth!

 

Hudson-Odoi sets up Foden.....5-2

[mrbojangles]

5-2 now, well done England

[wilai]

A World Cup double....Under 17's join the Under 20's as World Champions.

 

Now lets see Southgate and Co screw this one up!

[mrbojangles]

Do you think the Jrs will let the Snr's wear their new gold stars

[mommysboy]

Magnificent!  A few of these players are so good.  I hope Foden gets game time, because he could be a star in the making.

[mrbojangles]

10 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

I hope Foden gets game time, because he could be a star in the making.

Yeah. Pep rates him and let him go to get some good high level experience

[smokie36]

<deleted> sake 50 years of braggin .....only joking well done lads.

[carmine]

Having seen the tremendous achievements of the U17 and U20 sides in particular, along with combinable performances at other levels surely we're coming to an era of younger talent whereby if clubs don't put trust in them and give them a go at premier league level soon they never will?

 

Something at youth level seems to be working, will it be built on?

[smokie36]

2 hours ago, carmine said:

Having seen the tremendous achievements of the U17 and U20 sides in particular, along with combinable performances at other levels surely we're coming to an era of younger talent whereby if clubs don't put trust in them and give them a go at premier league level soon they never will?

 

Something at youth level seems to be working, will it be built on?

 

The young City players dream of a move to Tottenham.

[carmine]

8 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said:

 

The young City players dream of a move to Tottenham.

Pep only likes to coach world class players mate.

[champers]

I do hope Southgate was at the King Power stadium yesterday. There were 6 young English prospects on show. Demari Gray was outstanding in the first half for Leicester. His run for the 1st goal was sensational. Get him in the squad for the upcoming friendlies.

[carmine]

All this young talent coming through, but does anyone think a national coach with Southgate credentials and trophy haul will particularly inspire them!!!

[petermik]

7 hours ago, champers said:

I do hope Southgate was at the King Power stadium yesterday. There were 6 young English prospects on show. Demari Gray was outstanding in the first half for Leicester. His run for the 1st goal was sensational. Get him in the squad for the upcoming friendlies.

Where it will be coached out of him

[Bredbury Blue]

The young City players dream of a move to Dortmund.

[champers]

1 minute ago, Bredbury Blue said:

The young City players dream of a move to Dortmund.
 

Serious question. Have City made it a policy not to sell to English "rivals"?

[mommysboy]

4 hours ago, carmine said:

Having seen the tremendous achievements of the U17 and U20 sides in particular, along with combinable performances at other levels surely we're coming to an era of younger talent whereby if clubs don't put trust in them and give them a go at premier league level soon they never will?

 

Something at youth level seems to be working, will it be built on?

 

Take Foden as an example: in order to break in to first team he has to dislodge a few world class, experienced players and that isn't going to happen.  The players ahead of him learned their trade having been given opportunities at their previous clubs.  Foden may never get that experience.

 

In truth, it would be better if he was at Burnley right now, or Oldham, etc.

 

 

[mommysboy]

1 hour ago, carmine said:

All this young talent coming through, but does anyone think a national coach with Southgate credentials and trophy haul will particularly inspire them!!!

Not sure! But I would say it is becoming clear that a good club coach does not automatically make a good national coach.  Southgate was a success as the under 21 coach.

[mrbojangles]

3 hours ago, champers said:

Serious question. Have City made it a policy not to sell to English "rivals"?

No. We just sold Iheanacho to Leicester this summer.

[mrbojangles]

3 hours ago, mommysboy said:

 

Take Foden as an example: in order to break in to first team he has to dislodge a few world class, experienced players and that isn't going to happen.  The players ahead of him learned their trade having been given opportunities at their previous clubs.  Foden may never get that experience.

 

In truth, it would be better if he was at Burnley right now, or Oldham, etc.

 

 

Pep really likes Foden and took him on the American tour in summer. He purposely didn't send him out on loan with some of the other youngsters as he wants to give him a chance. He also let him go to the U17's WC to get that extra higher level experience. I, for one, will be disappointed if Pep doesn't give the lad a few run outs this season.

[champers]

1 hour ago, mrbojangles said:

No. We just sold Iheanacho to Leicester this summer.

By "rivals" I mean the other 5 of the top 6. So, would you have sold Iheanacho to Spurs or Liverpool, for example?

[balo]

What did England win the World Cup ?  

 

 

[mommysboy]

26 minutes ago, balo said:

What did England win the World Cup ?  

 

 

Yes

[mrbojangles]

4 hours ago, champers said:

By "rivals" I mean the other 5 of the top 6. So, would you have sold Iheanacho to Spurs or Liverpool, for example?

I seem to remember Leicester won the Prem recently !!  I get what your saying champs and TBH I'm not aware of any such strategy but I'm not sure

[mommysboy]

6 hours ago, mrbojangles said:

Pep really likes Foden and took him on the American tour in summer. He purposely didn't send him out on loan with some of the other youngsters as he wants to give him a chance. He also let him go to the U17's WC to get that extra higher level experience. I, for one, will be disappointed if Pep doesn't give the lad a few run outs this season.

I think 17 is rather a tender age to be pitched in with the seniors anyway, though there have been exceptions such as Rooney, and Owen.  But all these youngsters could really do with regular matches at around 19 or 20.  If they are not being played they should be loaned out at this age maybe to Championship teams, or foreign leagues.  This happens quite often anyway, so I suppose they are getting their chance now, one way or another. 

 

Again taking Foden as an example, despite being a special talent the odds are against him making the city team before the age of 21, and even then to do it he needs to be up to premiership pace, and there is little chance of that happening if he is not playing real football regularly.  I remember Sinclair was on fire when he joined City, but then spent a year or two in the wilderness, and there have been others to.  I'm not having a go at City by the way, as the same applies to Chelsea, et al.

 

I would like to see a regulation for the FA cup where premier league teams must field 1 or 2 academy players in a tie.  If that was successful then it could be expanded.  Applied to the league this would ensure that no premier team is at a disadvantage with each other.  it would encourage the teams to further develop their young players, and maybe the youngsters would flourish to such an extent that teams would not feel compelled to splash cash on foreign players.