UDD core leaders summonsed to acknowledge charges

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UDD core leaders summonsed to acknowledge charges



BANGKOK: -- Summonses have been issued by the Crime Suppression Division police for core leaders of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) to acknowledge the charges of illegal assembly of more than five people in public places.

The issuance of the summonses was in response to a complaint lodged with the CSD police by a judge advocate officer, Colonel Burin Thongpraprai, accusing the UDD core leaders of defying Order No 7/2557 of the National Council for Peace and Order which forbids political gathering in public of more than five people.

Named in the complaint were UDD chairman Jatuporn Promphan, Natthawut Saikua, Mrs Thida Thavornseth, Veerakarn Musikapong, Weng Tochirakarn, Yongyuth Tiyapairat, Pramual Chuklom alias Jeng Dokjik, Korkaew Pikulthong and 12 other UDD members.

The group gathered at the UDD headquarter at the Imperial Lat Phrao department store to announce the opening of the UDD’s centres to prevent cheating in the August 7 referendum and to give a press conference about the matter on June 5.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/udd-core-leaders-summonsed-acknowledge-charges/


-- Thai PBS 2016-06-22

[rubl]

Great, no need for a UDD run by a criminal fugitive.

[halloween]

Why bother with new charges? Prosecute them on their outstanding.

Better still, change the law so that those found guilty can wait their appeal while serving their time. That'll wipe the smile off one Cheshire Cat (not the TVF poster).

[worgeordie]

I thought the clown in the white T was supposed to be in prison ?

or was it suspended again,10 strikes and you're inside it seems.

regards worgeordie

[Thechook]

When is the Mad Monk and Suthep going to be charged and summoned for their political gatherings? Oh that's right their team is currently holding both the bat and ball and no one else can play.

[daoyai]

In public? are shopping malls public places? no, they are private places and their office there is a private space though members of the public may have limited and conditional access they are technicly private. case dismissed.

[Alive]

Only the inside of your head is private in Thailand.

[halloween]

Now that the "core leaders" of the UDD have been arrested, can we expect their millions of card-carrying, dues-paying followers to hit the streets in protest?

The UDD has to be an expensive operation to run, with Jatuporn alone accumulating around a million baht per year, and there is all the other turkeys as well. And their supporters are allegedly poor, so membership would have to be quite cheap, therefore there has to be literally millions of members willing to protest the persecution of their brave "leaders". Or only one, and he's otherwise engaged.

[seedy]

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[Eric Loh]

I see another folly by the junta to charge the UDD leaders. Highly predictable and expected by the UDD. Jatuporn and others will be happy to go through the judiciary process. All this injustice publicity will play into the mindset of their followers and bring them out to vote and to express their anger. A chance for the UDD during the judicary prcess to slam the double standard dealing with PDRC and royalist demonstrations with impunity.UDD outsmart the junta once again. Brillant.

[Alive]

Now that the "core leaders" of the UDD have been arrested, can we expect their millions of card-carrying, dues-paying followers to hit the streets in protest?

The UDD has to be an expensive operation to run, with Jatuporn alone accumulating around a million baht per year, and there is all the other turkeys as well. And their supporters are allegedly poor, so membership would have to be quite cheap, therefore there has to be literally millions of members willing to protest the persecution of their brave "leaders". Or only one, and he's otherwise engaged.

Isn't it nice to have power over voices, halloween? Of course, many would say more but there is no chance for them to show their real cynicism in word. Just look what happened to UDD. While some like you spout, others don't have that right.

[robblok]

When is the Mad Monk and Suthep going to be charged and summoned for their political gatherings? Oh that's right their team is currently holding both the bat and ball and no one else can play.

Nothing different from when the PTP was in power, they always go after only their enemies.. no matter what side is in power so its just payback for before. If PTP comes to power they will also do the same thing.

Not a good thing, just the way it is.

[halloween]

Now that the "core leaders" of the UDD have been arrested, can we expect their millions of card-carrying, dues-paying followers to hit the streets in protest?

The UDD has to be an expensive operation to run, with Jatuporn alone accumulating around a million baht per year, and there is all the other turkeys as well. And their supporters are allegedly poor, so membership would have to be quite cheap, therefore there has to be literally millions of members willing to protest the persecution of their brave "leaders". Or only one, and he's otherwise engaged.

Isn't it nice to have power over voices, halloween? Of course, many would say more but there is no chance for them to show their real cynicism in word. Just look what happened to UDD. While some like you spout, others don't have that right.

It seems you hear voices that nobody else can. It's also nice to be able to make claims with a disclaimer as to why you can't support them.

[aussieinthailand]

Now that the "core leaders" of the UDD have been arrested, can we expect their millions of card-carrying, dues-paying followers to hit the streets in protest?

The UDD has to be an expensive operation to run, with Jatuporn alone accumulating around a million baht per year, and there is all the other turkeys as well. And their supporters are allegedly poor, so membership would have to be quite cheap, therefore there has to be literally millions of members willing to protest the persecution of their brave "leaders". Or only one, and he's otherwise engaged.

I think you and the few junta fan boys left here on TVF may need to use just a little brain power if possible, ie do you think the shopping mall is privet property and that the public are given limited access?

Not to bright hey...

Case dismissed and should never have been charged in the first place, the problem is, the unbridled bias and judicial slat is a blight on the country and so-call western educated people that support these actions should be completely ashamed of them selves...

[Alive]

Now that the "core leaders" of the UDD have been arrested, can we expect their millions of card-carrying, dues-paying followers to hit the streets in protest?

The UDD has to be an expensive operation to run, with Jatuporn alone accumulating around a million baht per year, and there is all the other turkeys as well. And their supporters are allegedly poor, so membership would have to be quite cheap, therefore there has to be literally millions of members willing to protest the persecution of their brave "leaders". Or only one, and he's otherwise engaged.

Isn't it nice to have power over voices, halloween? Of course, many would say more but there is no chance for them to show their real cynicism in word. Just look what happened to UDD. While some like you spout, others don't have that right.

It seems you hear voices that nobody else can. It's also nice to be able to make claims with a disclaimer as to why you can't support them.

Hardly, You obviously don't read all the posts and even then some of them aren't there to read.

[robblok]

Now that the "core leaders" of the UDD have been arrested, can we expect their millions of card-carrying, dues-paying followers to hit the streets in protest?

The UDD has to be an expensive operation to run, with Jatuporn alone accumulating around a million baht per year, and there is all the other turkeys as well. And their supporters are allegedly poor, so membership would have to be quite cheap, therefore there has to be literally millions of members willing to protest the persecution of their brave "leaders". Or only one, and he's otherwise engaged.

I think you and the few junta fan boys left here on TVF may need to use just a little brain power if possible, ie do you think the shopping mall is privet property and that the public are given limited access?

Not to bright hey...

Case dismissed and should never have been charged in the first place, the problem is, the unbridled bias and judicial slat is a blight on the country and so-call western educated people that support these actions should be completely ashamed of them selves...

arm chair lawyer.

It does not matter private or public property no political gatherings. I really hope they use this to lock up the rabblerouser Jattuporn he got it coming for inciting the burning of BKK.

[whatproblem]

I don't think they care ,jatuporn has never been to prison so he won't go this time ,just another suspended

[Eric Loh]

Now that the "core leaders" of the UDD have been arrested, can we expect their millions of card-carrying, dues-paying followers to hit the streets in protest?

The UDD has to be an expensive operation to run, with Jatuporn alone accumulating around a million baht per year, and there is all the other turkeys as well. And their supporters are allegedly poor, so membership would have to be quite cheap, therefore there has to be literally millions of members willing to protest the persecution of their brave "leaders". Or only one, and he's otherwise engaged.

I think you and the few junta fan boys left here on TVF may need to use just a little brain power if possible, ie do you think the shopping mall is privet property and that the public are given limited access?

Not to bright hey...

Case dismissed and should never have been charged in the first place, the problem is, the unbridled bias and judicial slat is a blight on the country and so-call western educated people that support these actions should be completely ashamed of them selves...

arm chair lawyer.

It does not matter private or public property no political gatherings. I really hope they use this to lock up the rabblerouser Jattuporn he got it coming for inciting the burning of BKK.

Jatuporn is guilty. So said the armchair judge.

[aussieinthailand]

Now that the "core leaders" of the UDD have been arrested, can we expect their millions of card-carrying, dues-paying followers to hit the streets in protest?

The UDD has to be an expensive operation to run, with Jatuporn alone accumulating around a million baht per year, and there is all the other turkeys as well. And their supporters are allegedly poor, so membership would have to be quite cheap, therefore there has to be literally millions of members willing to protest the persecution of their brave "leaders". Or only one, and he's otherwise engaged.

I think you and the few junta fan boys left here on TVF may need to use just a little brain power if possible, ie do you think the shopping mall is privet property and that the public are given limited access?

Not to bright hey...

Case dismissed and should never have been charged in the first place, the problem is, the unbridled bias and judicial slat is a blight on the country and so-call western educated people that support these actions should be completely ashamed of them selves...

arm chair lawyer.

It does not matter private or public property no political gatherings. I really hope they use this to lock up the rabblerouser Jattuporn he got it coming for inciting the burning of BKK.

" arm chair lawyer." Read the OP mate, the UDD core leaders where summonsed to acknowledge charges of political gathering of more than five people in a PUBLIC PLACE......!!!!!! Semantics maybe but the law needs to be accurate unlike uncle Too's no selling alcohol in the vicinity of a school

Now is the shopping mall privet property? YES or NO??? if it is privet property then it is a false charge and should not have been issued.

"It dose not matter privet or public property no political gatherings. So are you suggesting if I had a family and friends BBQ and politics came up in conversation/debate then everyone would be charged? and that would go for any household in the land?

Is the law for PUBLIC gatherings but applied to privet gatherings also but not law? please clarify and if I'm wrong I'm happy to apologies, cheers.

Edited June 23, 2016 by aussieinthailand

[halloween]

arm chair lawyer.

It does not matter private or public property no political gatherings. I really hope they use this to lock up the rabblerouser Jattuporn he got it coming for inciting the burning of BKK.

Jatuporn is guilty. So said the armchair judge.

Actually, 3 judges have said he is guilty, with 2 suspended sentences, one incarceration judgement on appeal, and many more charges of a far more serious nature yet to come.

BTW one of his bail conditions on those more serious charges was that he not engage in political activity, which should see his bail revoked. I can only assume the condition was ignored so that the "poor" chap can earn his living, however much he wants to lie about its source.

[robblok]

Now that the "core leaders" of the UDD have been arrested, can we expect their millions of card-carrying, dues-paying followers to hit the streets in protest?

The UDD has to be an expensive operation to run, with Jatuporn alone accumulating around a million baht per year, and there is all the other turkeys as well. And their supporters are allegedly poor, so membership would have to be quite cheap, therefore there has to be literally millions of members willing to protest the persecution of their brave "leaders". Or only one, and he's otherwise engaged.

I think you and the few junta fan boys left here on TVF may need to use just a little brain power if possible, ie do you think the shopping mall is privet property and that the public are given limited access?

Not to bright hey...

Case dismissed and should never have been charged in the first place, the problem is, the unbridled bias and judicial slat is a blight on the country and so-call western educated people that support these actions should be completely ashamed of them selves...

arm chair lawyer.

It does not matter private or public property no political gatherings. I really hope they use this to lock up the rabblerouser Jattuporn he got it coming for inciting the burning of BKK.

" arm chair lawyer." Read the OP mate, the UDD core leaders where summonsed to acknowledge charges of political gathering of more than five people in a PUBLIC PLACE......!!!!!! Semantics maybe but the law needs to be accurate unlike uncle Too's no selling alcohol in the vicinity of a school

Now is the shopping mall privet property? YES or NO??? if it is privet property then it is a false charge and should not have been issued.

"It dose not matter privet or public property no political gatherings. So are you suggesting if I had a family and friends BBQ and politics came up in conversation/debate then everyone would be charged? and that would go for any household in the land?

Is the law for PUBLIC gatherings but applied to privet gatherings also but not law? please clarify and if I'm wrong I'm happy to apologies, cheers.

You are assuming the charges are correctly translated.

If you could have political gatherings on private places, don't you think PTP had rented a few private places to hold gatherings. This is quite easily done if it was legal. Now they have quite good lawyers there at the PTP and far superior to you, and they never thought of this or tried it ? Sounds like they know that just holding it at a private location (and there are many that can be rented) would not protect them.

Now your BBQ certainly is not a political gathering but just a BBQ and that you talk about some politics there can't be compared with a real political gathering. You are really not a good lawyer if there is just black and white and not some grey. Now if you were to invite loads of people to discuss politics and just serve a bit of meat at food to make it look as a BBQ it would be judged otherwise of course.

Now try to use your brain and think it through.

[Eric Loh]

arm chair lawyer.

It does not matter private or public property no political gatherings. I really hope they use this to lock up the rabblerouser Jattuporn he got it coming for inciting the burning of BKK.

Jatuporn is guilty. So said the armchair judge.

Actually, 3 judges have said he is guilty, with 2 suspended sentences, one incarceration judgement on appeal, and many more charges of a far more serious nature yet to come.

BTW one of his bail conditions on those more serious charges was that he not engage in political activity, which should see his bail revoked. I can only assume the condition was ignored so that the "poor" chap can earn his living, however much he wants to lie about its source.

The 2 suspended sentences were for defaming Ahbisit not for inciting burning of the city.

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

If they actually jailed these terrorist scumbags instead of finding them guilty and suspending their sentences then they wouldn't have to waste their time and money on these charges.

what's the point of all these charges and trials when you don't punish the offenders??!!

[Thaddeus]

If they actually jailed these terrorist scumbags instead of finding them guilty and suspending their sentences then they wouldn't have to waste their time and money on these charges.

what's the point of all these charges and trials when you don't punish the offenders??!!

Entertainment for the masses.

Just add some boiiiing sound effects and a dwarf katoey, everyone happy.

[jesimps]

Great, no need for a UDD run by a criminal fugitive.

First reply to the thread "But but Thaksin.......". Is this a record?

[sharecropper]

If they actually jailed these terrorist scumbags instead of finding them guilty and suspending their sentences then they wouldn't have to waste their time and money on these charges.

what's the point of all these charges and trials when you don't punish the offenders??!!

I know the whole lot should be banged up - the treasonous army usurpers I mean, then Suthep and his justice-avoiding terrorist (airport-invading) scumbags.

[Winniedapu]

If they actually jailed these terrorist scumbags instead of finding them guilty and suspending their sentences then they wouldn't have to waste their time and money on these charges.

what's the point of all these charges and trials when you don't punish the offenders??!!

Agreed. Don't know. Perhaps you could ask Newin Chidchob. He knows. And Abhisit, he knows too. And Suthep, he *definitely knows...

And that awful Praewa, who is the subject of another thread... ah the joys of getting a 'special' name...

W

[Alive]

Amazing what you can post on this forum if you support the right side.

[phoenixdoglover]

Just for grins, heres a link to the actual order from 2015 that includes the ban on political gatherings, as reported by Prachatai:

"Martial Law as anounced on 20 May 2014 was lifted on Wednesday night and was immediately replaced by Order number 3/2558 (3/2015) issued by General Prayuth Chan-ocha in his capacity as Head of the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO). (Note: Martial Law as applied to southern border provinces prior to 20 May 2014 remains in force.) The Order replacing Martial Law is as follows (iLaw's translation)..."

http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/4933

The whole order is pretty much a travesty (in my opinion); Article 12 is relevant to the topic at hand:

Article 12. Political gatherings of five or more persons shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding six months or a fine not exceeding ten thousand Baht, or both, unless permission has been granted by the Head of the NCPO. or an authorized representative.

Edited June 23, 2016 by phoenixdoglover

[Redline]

They should have done it in front of the US embassy. Apparently it's ok there