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15 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

The Republicans have got what they want. They need the electoral votes to be passed through in Dec and then they will help to throw Trump under the bus. They will then have Pence as President. Sweet for the republicans with all 3 houses, Pence is controllable and Trump will be on the Dump. There is no way the Republican core will forgive or forget Trump for what he said and did about his fellow Republicans in the primary's. Watch this space.

 

You know, that is very possible and IMO even worse than a Trump presidency.

 

edit: Though OTOH Trump may then choose to work almost exclusively with the Democrats. I don't think he cares that much.

 

edit again: and of course if they did that they would then be eviscerated in the 2018 midterms.

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Causing the violence?

It is the Libs, socialist, commies, SJW, BLM, and all are Soros backed.

We, the trump supporters, is whom they fear.

Especially if we/they are prompted into violence.

They don't stand a chance.

You can't be that foolish.

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Go back to Asia!’: Trump supporter grabs woman–police arrive and handcuff the victim.

 

A Minnesota-based Asian American woman was put in handcuffs on Wednesday after attempting to fight off a Trump supporter who grabbed her and shouted racial slurs at her.

Kathy Mirah Tu wrote in a now-viral Facebook post that a white male screamed at her to “Go back to Asia,” and then chased after her when she tried to ignore him, saying “Don’t you know it’s disrespectful to walk away from someone when they are talking to you?”

 

http://usuncut.com/news/go-back-asia-trump-supporter-grabs-woman-police-arrive-handcuff-victim/

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14 minutes ago, Skywalker69 said:

Go back to Asia!’: Trump supporter grabs woman–police arrive and handcuff the victim.

 

A Minnesota-based Asian American woman was put in handcuffs on Wednesday after attempting to fight off a Trump supporter who grabbed her and shouted racial slurs at her.

Kathy Mirah Tu wrote in a now-viral Facebook post that a white male screamed at her to “Go back to Asia,” and then chased after her when she tried to ignore him, saying “Don’t you know it’s disrespectful to walk away from someone when they are talking to you?”

 

http://usuncut.com/news/go-back-asia-trump-supporter-grabs-woman-police-arrive-handcuff-victim/

 

 

And your point is........?

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Judge rejects Trump bid to bar campaign statements from fraud trial.

 

A U.S. judge on Thursday tentatively rejected a bid by Donald Trump to keep a wide range of statements from the presidential campaign out of an upcoming fraud trial over his Trump University venture.

 

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/judge-rejects-trump-bid-to-bar-campaign-statements-from-fraud-trial/#.WCTwJNApvbo.facebook

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1 hour ago, NovaBlue05 said:

 

 

I can see Christie and Gingrich being quite useful

Until Christie is indeighted  for  his    closing an entire major bridge into NYC   , which his minions already have confessed he was aware of .

problem is if you run a campaign  of  hate  and insults,  many of those  are not going to help you govern, except the most base ones,  so   you  reap as you sow.     donald is alone  except  for  Gingrich, who started his whole   polarization in america,  go figure,  if there will be any   governing,   you wanted a bully,  get  ready  for blowback 

 

for you low information white guys :P

adjective, baser, basest.
1.
morally low; without estimable personal qualities; dishonorable; meanspirited; selfish; cowardly.
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6 minutes ago, chubby said:

Until Christie is indeighted  for  his    closing an entire major bridge into NYC   , which his minions already have confessed he was aware of .

problem is if you run a campaign  of  hate  and insults,  many of those  are not going to help you govern, except the most base ones,  so   you  reap as you sow.     donald is alone  except  for  Gingrich, who started his whole   polarization in america,  go figure,  if there will be any   governing,   you wanted a bully,  get  ready  for blowback 

 

for you low information white guys :P

adjective, baser, basest.

1.
morally low; without estimable personal qualities; dishonorable; meanspirited; selfish; cowardly.

 

Your contribution is noted. Thanks :thumbsup:

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20 minutes ago, chubby said:

Until Christie is indeighted  for  his    closing an entire major bridge into NYC   , which his minions already have confessed he was aware of .

problem is if you run a campaign  of  hate  and insults,  many of those  are not going to help you govern, except the most base ones,  so   you  reap as you sow.     donald is alone  except  for  Gingrich, who started his whole   polarization in america,  go figure,  if there will be any   governing,   you wanted a bully,  get  ready  for blowback 

 

for you low information white guys :P

adjective, baser, basest.

1.
morally low; without estimable personal qualities; dishonorable; meanspirited; selfish; cowardly.

 

"Low Information White Guys"?

 

Would that be racist?

 

It certainly sounds racist and highly offensive. 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Thaidream said:

... The simple truth is that all corporations hide behind the bankruptcy laws; eminent domain laws and tax laws which favor the rich. Trump basically admitted it. I want to see if he will change these laws which foavor the wealthy and put the average person at a disadvanage. Time will tell..

No need to wait, he won't change anything. When confronted on his tax issues, he brazenly admitted to making free use of the existing tax legislation and when Hillary decided to make that an issue, he repeatedly chided her for doing nothing about it while she was a Senator, easily deflecting anyone from asking him seriously if he would change the game. Apart from that, corporate America won't allow him to radically change a system that has benefited him, even if he wanted to.

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8 minutes ago, ClutchClark said:

 

"Low Information White Guys"?

 

Would that be racist?

 

It certainly sounds racist and highly offensive. 

 

 

his electorate,  ever seen a republican convention.  again  reality has a liberal bias, and no this is not 'calling the kettle black'

i also added an emoji    for sensitive viewers, perhaps like yourself :P

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2 hours ago, chubby said:

donald is alone  except  for  Gingrich,

60 million votes and the vast majority of America's citizen's that didnt vote Trump that have accepted the election, will be there with him.

Those very few, such as yourself, that want to fuel hatred seem to be the lonely ones here. So be welcome on board or dont, up to you, you and your kind will not be missed.

Have a great day. 

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17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

An astonishing win?

Yes.

A surprising win?

Yes.

It is now known trump had done nothing about beginning a transition plan before the win. So he didn't expect the win either.

A MANDATE to govern?
No. No. No.

He didn't even win the popular vote.

 

Well JT, he must have done something right because he did beat that old gal Hillary and she had planned every second of her election victory for about the past 50 years.

 

Does it somehow make defeat taste better when you can blame it on some cosmic accident?  If so, then I won't refute your post further out of courtesy to your feelings. 

 

Trump has surrounded himself by enough career politicians that this victory was not by chance...against the odds? Yes. It was the result of a superior strategy to hillary who apparently incorrectly estimated her constituency.

 

 

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1 hour ago, chubby said:

his electorate,  ever seen a republican convention.  again  reality has a liberal bias, and no this is not 'calling the kettle black'

i also added an emoji    for sensitive viewers, perhaps like yourself :P

 

 

An emoticon makes racist comments A-OK?

 

If I was a fellow racist then I would write that angle down but I don't have any need for it.

 

Perhaps you could explain what you mean by "low information"? 

 

Thanks

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2 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

 

"Low Information White Guys"?

 

Would that be racist?

 

It certainly sounds racist and highly offensive. 

 

 

Clutch ! Racism 101 - It would only be racist if it said 'Low Information Black Guys" - At least in the UK anyway.

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Trump has proved to me that he is a winner and even more he is in tune with the utter disgust most Americans hold for politicians. While I never liked his rhetoric because I thought his bluntness represented a coarsening of America- it is obvious he struck a chord. There is no doubt Clinton had he experience and the machine but she didn't have  what the voters needed which was a plan for real change. Americans are so fed up with the current status quo and lack of real opportunity that Trump represents the possibility he could produce.

 

I want to give him a chance -maybe by personality and persuasion alone he can do some good. However, he needs to rethink his Immigration policy. Most Americans will never do the jobs- illegals now do. I can't see Americans picking berries in the fields; skinning chickens in processing plans and working in slaughterhouses or as day laborers in the construction industry. America needs to find away to make the illegals legal because their labor is needed. As far as building a wall- it may sound good to the rightists and look good to the anti immigration movement but it will never stop illegal immigrants coming for better jobs. This is a complex issue and he really needs to sit down with the Mexican leadership to work out a real plan tht both countries can accept.

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34 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

Clutch ! Racism 101 - It would only be racist if it said 'Low Information Black Guys" - At least in the UK anyway.

I lost track and interest in the meaning of racism in the US when it began to be used almost exclusively by the left to describe people of differing political views

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what is it with the astonishing thing? neither party can do it up too far... it can't be allowed to be too obvious or one sided money wise.... bidded to the moon.... so the USA elections are now almost always very very close.... with the electorial college able to mask it a bit.

heck.... it's already an extravaganza as it is!

it's almost always 49.999% to 49.999%.... for the same reason we have Cola Wars....  Boeing and Airbus....  Coke and Pepsi.... Clinton and Bush.... or Clinton and Trump. 

astonishing? yeah right.... keep up the good work.... it's more 'sophisticated' than the DPRK's kind of nonsense..... but in the end the exact same kind of stuff..... Ivy league schooled or.... whatever.

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3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

 

No. No. No.

He didn't even win the popular vote.

You have already been shown how weak your claim of ....he did not win the popular vote cry is......time to realize saying Hillary was more popular is like saying....but that fat girl had a pretty face

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1 hour ago, maewang99 said:

what is it with the astonishing thing? neither party can do it up too far... it can't be allowed to be too obvious or one sided money wise.... bidded to the moon.... so the USA elections are now almost always very very close.... with the electorial college able to mask it a bit.

heck.... it's already an extravaganza as it is!

it's almost always 49.999% to 49.999%.... for the same reason we have Cola Wars....  Boeing and Airbus....  Coke and Pepsi.... Clinton and Bush.... or Clinton and Trump. 

astonishing? yeah right.... keep up the good work.... it's more 'sophisticated' than the DPRK's kind of nonsense..... but in the end the exact same kind of stuff..... Ivy league schooled or.... whatever.

 

You may not be far off the mark...let me know if you ever post in greater detsil about your thesis.

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13 hours ago, Morch said:

 

I think at least some of those on the anti-Trump camp would consider him succeeding in implementing certain policies a failure.  Losing an election does not imply adopting the ideology, policies or view of the winning side. Fair enough with regard to giving Trump at least a grace period, but honestly - would HRC have been treated differently had things gone the other way?

 

Yes.

Those anti Trumpists that are trying to continue the pre election nastiness are the same as the snowflakes rioting in US cities because they are too precious to accept democracy.

After Obama won the Republicans didn't go out and burn the US flag on the streets of America.

 

Sore and losers come to mind.

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7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Yes.

Those anti Trumpists that are trying to continue the pre election nastiness are the same as the snowflakes rioting in US cities because they are too precious to accept democracy.

After Obama won the Republicans didn't go out and burn the US flag on the streets of America.

 

Sore and losers come to mind.

 

There's ongoing nastiness from both sides, evident to anyone reading these topics, following social media or watching the news. A candidate's victory does not mean previously held negative opinions about him and his political platform need to be scraped or given up. Trump's victory is not contested on these topics (save for a few diehards, perhaps), but some Trump supporters seem to think any criticism of Trump equates with the demonstrations and riots in the US. This is not so.

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Thaidream said:

Trump has proved to me that he is a winner and even more he is in tune with the utter disgust most Americans hold for politicians. While I never liked his rhetoric because I thought his bluntness represented a coarsening of America- it is obvious he struck a chord. There is no doubt Clinton had he experience and the machine but she didn't have  what the voters needed which was a plan for real change. Americans are so fed up with the current status quo and lack of real opportunity that Trump represents the possibility he could produce.

 

I want to give him a chance -maybe by personality and persuasion alone he can do some good. However, he needs to rethink his Immigration policy. Most Americans will never do the jobs- illegals now do. I can't see Americans picking berries in the fields; skinning chickens in processing plans and working in slaughterhouses or as day laborers in the construction industry. America needs to find away to make the illegals legal because their labor is needed. As far as building a wall- it may sound good to the rightists and look good to the anti immigration movement but it will never stop illegal immigrants coming for better jobs. This is a complex issue and he really needs to sit down with the Mexican leadership to work out a real plan tht both countries can accept.

A guest worker program is simple enough to implement. If Saudi can do it for people from all over the world, the US can do it for those over the border.

E verify would solve the illegal workers problem more or less instantly.

There never was a need for a huge wall. A simple fence is sufficient, as long as they have enough border guards to stop people. Plenty of US citizens living along the border would volunteer to act as look outs, and technology would also be a big factor in border security.

Probably the largest impediment to stopping illegals is that rich and influential people wish to exploit them.

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