10 Reasons Not To Put Nitrogen In Your Tyres.

[Kwasaki]

16 hours ago, Don Mega said:

 

 

Ok you have convince me to add that other 20% nitrogen to the  tires on my street driven vehicles, what benefits will I experience other than having to check my tire pressure less frequently ?

 

I am just posting about my experience with using n2 in car & bike tyres and yes not having to check my tyre (tire) pressure so frequently.

What anyone else thinks or does l really couldn't give a flig. 

 

[Kwasaki]

48 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

 

He Kwakasaki, Today I drove me pickup home in manual mode (no D for me) and according to my bum dyno it felt like me vigo had atleast 500HP, so now I have scientfic facts that proves me vigo has 500Hp. Pretty awesome eh !!

Race drivers use their bum meter too.

And as for sloppy auto's.  

 

 

[transam]

3 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Race drivers use their bum meter too.

And as for sloppy auto's.  

 

 

Bet he wears sunglasses at night, that's the ploblem....

[JAS21]

4 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

Isn't "air" about 78% Nitrogen already? 

You catch on quick ...

[gdgbb]

5 hours ago, transam said:

My chum, who is a circuit car racer, has got back to me regarding this subject.

 

Race car....The tyres are fitted on the rims clean and 'dry', bedded in with nitrogen, so there is no moisture in the tyre, then inflated to the correct pressure. Racers use it because there is nothing to alter the tyre pressures via moisture. He has seen duel valve wheels where to be 100% N2 they fill with one and blast it out the other then fill for 100%.

Road car...As many rides have tyres that last for years every time you top up the pressure you put in water from the air that the compressor pulls in, separators may not be 100% efficient or used. That water corrodes and alters pressures when hot because it is not a 'dry' gas. Lastly, N2 has more trouble getting through rubber than air so pressures remain constant longer.

"That water corrodes and alters pressures when hot because it is not a 'dry' gas."

Yes, of course it does.  Corrosion of the inside of an alloy wheel by minutely damp air must be a huge problem.  If it is an issue better quality wheels are probably the answer.

 

"N2 has more trouble getting through rubber than air so pressures remain constant longer."

Really, how does that work then?   I'd be interested to hear his explanation and if it goes down the "nitrogen molecules are larger than air molecules" route lets hope he knows how tiny the difference is.

[transam]

5 minutes ago, gdgbb said:

"That water corrodes and alters pressures when hot because it is not a 'dry' gas."

Yes, of course it does.  Corrosion of the inside of an alloy wheel by minutely damp air must be a huge problem.  If it is an issue better quality wheels are probably the answer.

 

"N2 has more trouble getting through rubber than air so pressures remain constant longer."

Really, how does that work then?   I'd be interested to hear his explanation and if it goes down the "nitrogen molecules are larger than air molecules" route lets hope he knows how tiny the difference is.

Brain cells can differ too, in size that is....

[gdgbb]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

 

At  " Cockpit "  new tyres fitted on Vigo, all rims were cleaned and checked especially rim seals and obviously new valves with green dust caps.   l liked it,  it was different. 

l must say l was amused with all enthusiasm as they told me they were inflating the tyres with nitrogen and why etc.

With all the gauges, equipment going to each wheel several times when inflating, after getting home the next morning l had to deflated the tyres psi to correct pressure.  

 

2 weeks on, 4 weeks on, and 2 months on when checked, no lose l was impressed to say the least so much so when the Mrs car came into being l had nitrogen put in it's car tyres.

It wasn't just a deflation the whole process was carried out as if they were fitting new tyres. 

 

"...all rims were cleaned and checked especially rim seals...it was different".

Well, there you go, perhaps the special checking of the tyre/rim seal that normally doesn't happen had a lot more to do with pressure retention than the gas that was used to inflate them?

[gdgbb]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Brain cells can differ too, in size that is....

 

I did notice.  Several times.

[transam]

5 minutes ago, gdgbb said:

 

I did notice.  Several times.

Then go get something done about it chum.....

[Kwasaki]

4 minutes ago, gdgbb said:

"...all rims were cleaned and checked especially rim seals...it was different".

Well, there you go, perhaps the special checking of the tyre/rim seal that normally doesn't happen had a lot more to do with pressure retention than the gas that was used to inflate them?

 

There you go again missing the humour, l was referring to the green dust caps.  

Can we just agree to disagree.

 

http://www.tirebuyer.com/education/nitrogen-vs-air

[transam]

1 minute ago, Kwasaki said:

 

There you go again missing the humour, l was referring to the green dust caps.  

Can we just agree to disagree.

 

http://www.tirebuyer.com/education/nitrogen-vs-air

No, he's gone to get checked out....

[gdgbb]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Then go get something done about it chum.....

How can I get something done about you, pal?

[transam]

1 minute ago, gdgbb said:

How can I get something done about you, pal?

Perhaps listen (read).......

[Don Mega]

So it seems there is no rock solid scientifically proven evidence as to why Nitrogen is better than normal everyday compressed air.

 

Thought as much.

[transam]

1 minute ago, Don Mega said:

So it seems there is no rock solid scientifically proven evidence as to why Nitrogen is better than normal everyday compressed air.

 

Thought as much.

[JAS21]

1 hour ago, gdgbb said:

"That water corrodes and alters pressures when hot because it is not a 'dry' gas."

Yes, of course it does.  Corrosion of the inside of an alloy wheel by minutely damp air must be a huge problem.  If it is an issue better quality wheels are probably the answer.

 

"N2 has more trouble getting through rubber than air so pressures remain constant longer."

Really, how does that work then?   I'd be interested to hear his explanation and if it goes down the "nitrogen molecules are larger than air molecules" route lets hope he knows how tiny the difference is.

Please look at the link in my post #77 ... it is the last line in the post.

 

If you can understand a slightly technical explanation then you will be 'wised up'  about the mechanism of transfer of molecules through rubber ...it's not as you seem to think or as the explanation given by the 'suppose it" know all in the film.

 

Please take a few minutes to read the document referred to in the link ...then just maybe you will understand why your opinion is somewhat suspect .. ☺

[ballpoint]

5 hours ago, Don Mega said:

 that 22% is actually 21% oxygen and 1% water vapour and argon.
 

 

What, no CO2? Global warming is a myth!

[gdgbb]

Here's a follow up video to this subject, I'm sure it will be well received...

 

[gdgbb]

On 24/11/2016 at 10:59 AM, transam said:

That's why air is not referred too as a dry gas..

It's also why nitrogen that is contaminated with anything that contains water is not dry.

[transam]

Just now, gdgbb said:

It's also why nitrogen that is contaminated with anything that contains water is not dry.

[transam]

3 minutes ago, gdgbb said:

Here's a follow up video to this subject, I'm sure it will be well received...

 

...........You better start emailing race car teams, airlines, heavy machinery folk your 'find'....

[gdgbb]

22 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

 

There you go again missing the humour, l was referring to the green dust caps.  

Can we just agree to disagree.

 

http://www.tirebuyer.com/education/nitrogen-vs-air

I'll agree with what that link says, no discernible or practical advantage for road use at all.

[gdgbb]

20 hours ago, JAS21 said:

Please look at the link in my post #77 ... it is the last line in the post.

 

If you can understand a slightly technical explanation then you will be 'wised up'  about the mechanism of transfer of molecules through rubber ...it's not as you seem to think or as the explanation given by the 'suppose it" know all in the film.

 

Please take a few minutes to read the document referred to in the link ...then just maybe you will understand why your opinion is somewhat suspect .. ☺

On the other hand, if you can understand a slightly technical explanation then you will be 'wised up'  about the mechanism of transfer of molecules through rubber ...it's not as you seem to think.

[gdgbb]

9 minutes ago, transam said:

 

You do know what that daft emoticon says about your (non-)response, don't you?

[gdgbb]

8 minutes ago, transam said:

...........You better start emailing race car teams, airlines, heavy machinery folk your 'find'....

 

Why?  The follow up is referring to the use of nitrogen in road car's tyres, this OP  has never been about race cars, aircraft or heavy machinery, perhaps you imagined that part of the thread?  Don't laugh too much, kiddo, it doesn't make your arguments any more credible.

[transam]

1 minute ago, gdgbb said:

 

Why?  The follow up is referring to the use of nitrogen in road car's tyres, this OP  has never been about race cars, aircraft or heavy machinery, perhaps you imagined that part of the thread?  Don't laugh too much, kiddo, it doesn't make your arguments any more credible.

YOU do not read anything posted....YOU read about folk PAYING for N2.....In LOS we DO NOT pay for it but the benefits of it for FREE have been posted....

[Jai Dee]

23 minutes ago, gdgbb said:

Here's a follow up video to this subject, I'm sure it will be well received...

 

That clip is a classic!!! 

 

Some brilliant one-liners in there that could well be applied to some of the contributors to this thread...  

 

[Anthony5]

16 minutes ago, transam said:

YOU do not read anything posted....YOU read about folk PAYING for N2.....In LOS we DO NOT pay for it but the benefits of it for FREE have been posted....

 

 

Where do you get nitrogen for free in Thailand?

[bark]

On 18/11/2559 at 4:58 PM, fredob43 said:

Read this some months ago. Didn't look again.

Seems to me that it's the cost that's why it's not worth it.

He also says that they run hotter.

 

When I had my 4 tyres changed they put Nitrogen in them had no choice. Cost free, also top up if I wanted again free.

Did I notice any difference No. Temp: stayed the same if not slightly lower. Don't see that it makes any difference if it's free.

 

And before any one asks how I know about temp: I have an electric tyre pressure & Temp gauge in the lump: it gives me a read out on individual tyres every 15 seconds.

Conclusion if you have to pay don't bother but if it's free up to you.

 

Normally these Electric Tire Temp gauge tend to register 40 - 50 c too low.  Which makes them a total waste of money.

[bark]

On 22/11/2559 at 3:35 PM, gdgbb said:

It's not a problem for me at all.  But why should I believe your claims when there is no scientific evidence to support them? 

Can't we all just get along. Peace and Love. please.