working on own home

[georgemandm]

24 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

 

if i wait too long before I get one, can she ask me to usufruct off?

Smart ???? 

[darrendsd]

50 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

I would take posters advise as we have done same. Al this scare people post load of rubish. People on here have fixation on WP. 

 

So you really think a farang working on SOMEBODY ELSE'S property without a WP is legal? Really?

 

Either that or you did not read what I actually said

[ericthai]

On 12/29/2016 at 5:57 AM, mick220675 said:

My next door neighbour is a immigration police officer. Over the last fifteen years I personally have built a house with a wall, swimming pool and granny flat at no time has he ever said I should have a work visa. I even re-wired his house for him, you would be very unlucky to have any problems supervising your home being built.

 

The only trouble my neighbour has been to me was when he got very drunk and started shooting chickens with a revolver.

And why would your neighbor who works for immigration care if you have a work permit or not? 

That's not his job he work for immigration not the labor department who issues work permits. 

[ericthai]

6 hours ago, pommy pete said:

A few years back they stopped two farangs building their own boat in Pattaya

ahh there was more to that story. They did it more than once and then was selling the boats. 

[bandito]

17 hours ago, Autonuaq said:

You do need a workpermit that not will he granted sonce it is work that is aloowed to be done by Thai Nationals in the way you describe the situation.

 

5 years emprisonment and or 100.000 thb. And the change your poroerty will be confescated too

 

Besid the changed of being blacklisted and not able to stay in Thailand

 

Not so, you do indeed need a workpermit to work on your own house and this will be granted.

You have to give an estimate of how long it will take for the work to be done, say 3 months, and you will get a workpermit for 3 months.

This is an old law and already exist for many years, long before I settled in this country. 40+ years ago.

Nobody I knows of, included me, did ever apply but the way things are going here in Thailand I would and will be carefull.

Everywhere are they digging up old laws and applying them.

The time of a carefree and doing what you want in Thailand, for foreigners, are rapidly coming to an end.

Don't end up in the kaboose because of some stupid old law.

That said, I don't give a s..t and paint and do repairs on my own house in full view, no problems sofar.

 

[jeab1980]

10 hours ago, darrendsd said:

 

So you really think a farang working on SOMEBODY ELSE'S property without a WP is legal? Really?

 

Either that or you did not read what I actually said

Where did I say work on another property maybe you not read my post properley

[jeab1980]

10 hours ago, georgemandm said:

No you think it is I am just giving him  advice 

No good advise on this thread

[bangon04]

On 12/29/2016 at 6:57 PM, mick220675 said:

 

 

The only trouble my neighbour has been to me was when he got very drunk and started shooting chickens with a revolver.

yep - don't you just hate it when that happens......

[melvinmelvin]

22 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

Here we go two very diffrent things as well you know but I'm sure you not let it go.

 

that may be so, but to be honest  I just do not understand what you try to say

 

what is the difference between working on your own boat - car - motorcycle - wig and your own house?

 

[jeab1980]

32 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

that may be so, but to be honest  I just do not understand what you try to say

 

what is the difference between working on your own boat - car - motorcycle - wig and your own house?

 

What you quoted had other things going with it read some of the other posts re building the boat they seem to know more.

[metisdead]

Off topic bickering comparisons and replies have been removed.  

[Deepinthailand]

Simple answer no. 

[JDGRUEN]

I have poured a concrete apron out front of my rented townhouse next to the drainage channel.  I have poured concrete to fill a triangular piece of my patio that was once gravel.. My next project it is a bamboo screening wall around my bed with drapes and similar for an under stairwell closet.  After that I plan on a roof extension on my patio with security screening.  Two years ago I created a small kitchen in the upstairs apartment - including using a hammer drill to drill holes in the concrete / brick wall for drain pipes ... I tired to get help via networking with neighbors and others - but none ever arrived -- so routinely I just buy the tools I need and Do It .... Last year I even paved over numerous pot holes in my Soi and filled in large erosion areas along the so called drainage ditch ...  And I really do not care who likes it or not... I have friends with the local police in other matters ... So I just do what needs to be done.  

[melvinmelvin]

1 hour ago, jeab1980 said:

What you quoted had other things going with it read some of the other posts re building the boat they seem to know more.

 

thank yoy, very informative, have a nice 2017

 

[sstuff3]

 
Can you back this up with hard facts such as a link to the Labor Office or Immigration website?
 
If you are working on your in laws house you ARE working illegally and you DO need a WP, just because you have not been caught yet this does not mean it is not illegal
 
BTW i'm not bothered in what you do but please don't give advice that could land other people in trouble
 
 
 
 
 
 

Do you have hard facts to back up the need for a WP to work on your own house? In 12 years of living here and reading this forum, I have never heard or read of anyone getting in trouble for working on their own house.

Sure there are thousands of threads that talk about "a friend of a friend" or "I heard about this guy" and other "urban legends" but not once has anyone ever offered up first-hand experience of someone getting in trouble for doing this. Until they do, it's all speculation and scare mongering.

The day someone (government official) tells me I can't work on my house or my own car is the day I will close my company, fire my staff, pack my things and move. I seriously doubt that day will ever come.

Have a good day and Happy New Year!

[darrendsd]

12 hours ago, sstuff3 said:

 

Do you have hard facts to back up the need for a WP to work on your own house? In 12 years of living here and reading this forum, I have never heard or read of anyone getting in trouble for working on their own house.

Sure there are thousands of threads that talk about "a friend of a friend" or "I heard about this guy" and other "urban legends" but not once has anyone ever offered up first-hand experience of someone getting in trouble for doing this. Until they do, it's all speculation and scare mongering.

The day someone (government official) tells me I can't work on my house or my own car is the day I will close my company, fire my staff, pack my things and move. I seriously doubt that day will ever come.

Have a good day and Happy New Year!

 

 

Read what I actually said, I said working on your in laws house

[sstuff3]

 
Read what I actually said, I said working on your in laws house

I said "Do what you want and need to do to your home..."

You said "please don't give advice that could land other people in trouble"

Please explain how my advice can land anyone in trouble and please back it up with FACTS, not speculation.

[darrendsd]

1 hour ago, sstuff3 said:

 

I said "Do what you want and need to do to your home..."

You said "please don't give advice that could land other people in trouble"

Please explain how my advice can land anyone in trouble and please back it up with FACTS, not speculation.
 

 

 

AGAIN read what I said, you said you have worked on your in laws house and that's what I replied to, if you don't think you need a WP to work on somebody else's house then you are very wrong and it would not matter if you did it for free by the way

 

 

[Don Mega]

1 minute ago, darrendsd said:

 

AGAIN read what I said, you said you have worked on your in laws house and that's what I replied to, if you don't think you need a WP to work on somebody else's house then you are very wrong and it would not matter if you did it for free by the way

 

 

 

You got a link to the specific labour law that says one cannot work on a relatives house without a work permit. ?

[darrendsd]

1 minute ago, Don Mega said:

 

You got a link to the specific labour law that says one cannot work on a relatives house without a work permit. ?

 

No do you have one that says you can?

 

Working in Thailand without a WP is illegal not matter if you are doing a bit of work on Uncle Somchais house

 

What next, working on the inlaws friends house, then their friends?

 

If you don't understand that working here without a WP is illegal then I do have to wonder if you actually live in Thailand at all?

[Don Mega]

8 minutes ago, darrendsd said:

 

No do you have one that says you can?

 

Working in Thailand without a WP is illegal not matter if you are doing a bit of work on Uncle Somchais house

 

What next, working on the inlaws friends house, then their friends?

 

If you don't understand that working here without a WP is illegal then I do have to wonder if you actually live in Thailand at all?

 

 

As I thought, you have nothing to back your claims. not surprising and many roll out the same un-informed diatribe.

 

I just lifted a beer to my mouth, do I need a work permit for that when it is a job a local  could perform ?

 

Edited January 2, 2017 by Don Mega

[darrendsd]

5 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

 

 

As I thought, you have nothing to back your claims. not surprising and many roll out the same un-informed diatribe.

 

I just lifted a beer to my mouth, do I need a work permit for that when it is a job a local  could perform ?

 

 

Ok so back up your claim by pasting the link that says you CAN work on your in laws house without a WP

 

You are obviously 100% sure about this so it should not be hard for you to find

 

Finish your beer first if you wish

 

 

[Don Mega]

11 minutes ago, darrendsd said:

 

Ok so back up your claim by pasting the link that says you CAN work on your in laws house without a WP

 

You are obviously 100% sure about this so it should not be hard for you to find

 

Finish your beer first if you wish

 

 

 

 

Hey bro. You are the one making the claims, not me me.

 

If you have nothing to back them  then maybe lay off the attempts as passing them as fact until you do.

 

Just sayin.

Edited January 2, 2017 by Don Mega

[sstuff3]

 
AGAIN read what I said, you said you have worked on your in laws house and that's what I replied to, if you don't think you need a WP to work on somebody else's house then you are very wrong and it would not matter if you did it for free by the way
 
 

My advice was simply stated. The fact that I do odd jobs around my in-laws house was stating my own personal experience.

Living in Thailand does not mean you surrender your common-sense at the airport when you arrive.

I seriously doubt anyone would ever have an issue with helping out family.

[darrendsd]

14 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

 

 

Hey bro. You are the one making the claims, not me me.

 

If you have nothing to back them  then maybe lay off the attempts as passing them as fact until you do.

 

Just sayin.

 

So you can't back up your claim that working on relatives houses is not illegal?

 

I didn't think so

 

I suggest that you look up the list of restricted professions in Thailand

 

Just sayin

[Don Mega]

2 minutes ago, darrendsd said:

 

So you can't back up your claim that working on relatives houses is not illegal?

 

I didn't think so

 

I suggest that you look up the list of restricted professions in Thailand

 

Just sayin

 

 

Yeah working on relo's houses does not appear on that list but you seem to know better so put up your evidence.

[darrendsd]

16 minutes ago, sstuff3 said:

 

My advice was simply stated. The fact that I do odd jobs around my in-laws house was stating my own personal experience.

Living in Thailand does not mean you surrender your common-sense at the airport when you arrive.

I seriously doubt anyone would ever have an issue with helping out family.

 

 

But that is not the argument is it? The argument is if a WP is needed and as construction/building work is a restricted profession then yes a WP is technically needed

 

I to doubt you would have a issue however that is not the point I am trying to make

 

 

[darrendsd]

1 minute ago, Don Mega said:

 

 

Yeah working on relo's houses does not appear on that list but you seem to know better so put up your evidence.

 

Sigh,

 

Building/construction is on the list, how much evidence do you need?? Really??

 

That's my evidence, where is yours that it is ok?

 

If you can't provide any get back to your Chang because you are making yourself sound silly now

 

 

[Don Mega]

5 minutes ago, darrendsd said:

 

Sigh,

 

Building/construction is on the list, how much evidence do you need?? Really??

 

That's my evidence, where is yours that it is ok?

 

If you can't provide any get back to your Chang because you are making yourself sound silly now

 

 

 

Sorry bro but chang is feral.

 

a bit of reno work aint building or construction............ but according to you iam in breach of the labour laws  if I even picked up a shovel,..... something you have yet to provide anything factual on !!

Edited January 2, 2017 by Don Mega

[darrendsd]

2 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

 

Sorry bro but chang is feral.

 

a bit of reno work aint building or construction............ but according to you iam in breach of the labour laws  if I even picked up a shovel,..... something you have yet to provide anything factual on !!

 

Do you actually understand what a restricted profession is? Just to help you out it means only Thai people can do it. do you understand this? Understand it at all?

 

The facts are on the restricted professions list, that's my proof, Where's yours? You keep arguing but still haven't provided any FACTS to back up your claims

 

Where are they? i'm waiting....