Facebook awaits court orders; Prayut says ‘no authority’ to suspend social media operations after deadline lapses

[fish monger]

Just another fear mongering, knee jerk idea to suppress freedom of thought and speech in a country of lemmings going to slaughter.

[Krataiboy]

3 hours ago, Toshiba66 said:

If it were not for all the noise about this yesterday I would never have seen what I was not meant to see.

Its all over the world now.

 

Seems to be so much talk of whats being or trying to be removed here these days.

Facebook

Beach Umbrellas

Beach food and drink

Street food

 

I am sure there are more. Seems to be a growing list.

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Free-to-view Premier Division soccer -  watched by masses of Thais as well as expats - can now be added to the growing list.

 

It's a weird way to bring happiness to the people.

[FredNL]

What's next???

• Youtube
• Vimeo

There are loads of "illegal" content there. It was yesterday that I saw a recording of someone's birthday in 2007 with a topless woman pleasing the one... No names, but everyone knows who it was...

[BigC]

3 hours ago, Toshiba66 said:

If it were not for all the noise about this yesterday I would never have seen what I was not meant to see.

Its all over the world now.

 

Seems to be so much talk of whats being or trying to be removed here these days.

Facebook

Beach Umbrellas

Beach food and drink

Street food

 

I am sure there are more. Seems to be a growing list.

I don't know why they don't allow them to post then track them down and arrest them

 

its an impossible task trying to remove foreign countries for posting media that's illegal in other countries

 

for example in Uk the media are not allowed to print sexy offenders names in the paper

 

doesnt mean they cannot print them in France or another country

 

it's like Facebook says as long as it doesn't violate their terms and conditions then they cannot do anything 

 

there are a few Forang's that spread hate about Thailand whilst living overseas

 

i  would love to see them in jail

 

just have to wait to catch them

[elgordo38]

 Prayut says ‘no authority’ to suspend social media operations after deadline lapses. One thing about our PM he has the sense to back away from a "hot potato" when he sees one. 

[elgordo38]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

 

BANGKOK: -- THE MINISTRY of Digital Economy and Society staff has said it expects social media giant Facebook to block access to all 131 web addresses deemed illegal by authorities by the end of the month.

Hmm by the end of the month now. 

[elgordo38]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

With more than 40 million users, Thailand is among the world’s most active countries on Facebook. 

Tread lightly. 

[Krataiboy]

According to my dictionary, there are three kinds of intelligence: human, animal and military - in that order.

 

That said, the military junta is not going to ban Facebook from Thailand, not now, not ever.

 

The generals know you can get away with robbing Thais of their freedom - but not their fun.

[elgordo38]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha admitted yesterday that his government did not have the authority to suspend Facebook’s operations in Thailand following its refusal to immediately block the URLs.

Back peddling mode now. 

[elgordo38]

3 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

wonder if banning facebook would bring the end of the army. thais have rioted in the streets before and facebook is very important to them.

The good PM is trying to figure out how deal with the "untouchable" A new breed of cat for him to deal with. Like trying to poke a sleeping elephant with a small needle. 

[elgordo38]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

He told reporters yesterday that 6,000 web pages had been blocked recently by foreign social media platforms and search engines following government requests.

 

“We are now trying to work on the remaining ones and we must continue to work by asking for cooperation from foreign governments, the private sector and local website administrators,” he said.

Sounds rather lame. Pretty soon the whole of Thai society will hidden in a shroud of secrecy except for the Junta regurgitates 

Edited May 17, 2017 by elgordo38

[the guest]

FB should never bow to a regime that is hell-bent in repressing the population. 

 

[Psimbo]

Court order must have read 'You no unnastan Thailand'.

[beautifulthailand99]

This digital savvy Thailand 4.0 is turning out well................................

[lvr181]

Storm in a teacup!

 

Why isn't there more action on corruption, reducing road trauma, arresting rich/powerful people for killing, etc., ad infinitum ad nauseam. (Latin translating roughly to meaning forever until it makes you sick)  

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Actually, contrary to what the PM is reported to say, I think the government could perfectly well attempt to block access to FB nationwide -- if they actually wanted to.

 

They already do that with various other websites, and it would simply require the internet gateways or the various ISPs, which are all under the government's thumb -- to block the Facebook domain through their networks for Thailand IP users.

 

Saying they don't have the legal or technical basis to do the blocking is just an excuse. They have both -- remember Section 44 -- if they wanted to exercise them.

[simon43]

I will choose my words carefully in this post.

 

The Thai government has stated that it wants Facebook to block/take down a number of websites which are either pornographic, fraudulent or defame the Monarchy/commit Lese Majeste.

 

That seems reasonable.  Facebook isn't a porn site, and pages that feature what most people would consider to be pornography are taken down when Facebook is notified.

 

Likewise for sites/pages that are fraudelent or trying to commit fraud.  That's illegal in any country.

 

As for the other pages, since LM is an offence on the statute books in Thailand, then Facebook should remove/block those websites where the content is deemed to break that law, (whether Facebook agrees or not with this LM law - Facebook has already stated that it will block pages that break local laws).

 

But then there will be Facebook sites/pages which do not specifically try to defame the Monarchy.  They may be factual news reports or news videos about members of the Thai Royal Family that have been taken in a public area, such as - for example, a shopping centre....

 

Such news reports/video may be embarrassing to the Thai government.  But IMHO factual video of this type doesn't defame the Royal Family nor commit LM - it is a factual news video of an event, not something that has been 'invented'.

 

I don't think Facebook will agree to block such content.

[candide]

5 minutes ago, simon43 said:

 

 

I don't think Facebook will agree to block such content.

From what I read elsewhere, Facebook already blocked access to the type of content you were mentioning,  in several cases. I also read that they don't need to block a whole site. They can just block access to a specific post, without blocking access to the other posts.

[poohy]

30 minutes ago, candide said:

From what I read elsewhere, Facebook already blocked access to the type of content you were mentioning,  in several cases. I also read that they don't need to block a whole site. They can just block access to a specific post, without blocking access to the other posts.

Wouldn't be so sure about that just looked at a Uk newspaper FB page (no VPN or anything odd) with a news item headline .............. FB 1 (name of country)0 photos etc still there

Edited May 17, 2017 by poohy

[Dunky]

8 hours ago, Toshiba66 said:

If it were not for all the noise about this yesterday I would never have seen what I was not meant to see.

Its all over the world now.

 

Seems to be so much talk of whats being or trying to be removed here these days.

Facebook

Beach Umbrellas

Beach food and drink

Street food

 

I am sure there are more. Seems to be a growing list.

Thailand wants to become the hub of things being removed 

[Dunky]

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Actually, contrary to what the PM is reported to say, I think the government could perfectly well attempt to block access to FB nationwide -- if they actually wanted to.

 

They already do that with various other websites, and it would simply require the internet gateways or the various ISPs, which are all under the government's thumb -- to block the Facebook domain through their networks for Thailand IP users.

 

Saying they don't have the legal or technical basis to do the blocking is just an excuse. They have both -- remember Section 44 -- if they wanted to exercise them.

I think somebody at some point may have explained just what a bad move that would be..

[JGV]

I would expect that because of this story curiosity will lead to many more people seeking out the web sites to find out what all the fuss is about - it's called human nature

Just witness how many people converge on a road accident to see what happened

Same response here - why can't people in government show some insight into how humans behave instead of trying to censor what they see and hear

[beautifulthailand99]

In any other country this would be a full blown constitutional crisis - as there is no such thing at the moment the job fals to PM Prayuth and his cohorts to sort this out. There are no easy choices but the most obvious one would find popularity with every level of Thai society and be a new fresh start. I sincerely hope we are entering the end game for this monstrous world class farce.

 

[realenglish1]

You're absolutely right you have no other course of action you can take If you did the Thais would rise up and you would not be in office

Glad you understand that 

[In the jungle]

They shot themselves in the foot.

 

I am not particularly interested in the detail of this issue but surfing the web today I stumbled across it repeatedly.

 

By seeking to get Facebook to ban certain pages they ensured that the content spread to the point where their ban is futile.

[hobz]

10 hours ago, khunpa said:

If one of the (many) ideas is to attract foreign investment and especially technology companies, then it might be a good idea to NOT threaten with possible closure of social media sites like Facebook. Just saying...

 

I often wonder why there internally seems to be absolutely no filter, when it comes to making official statements. 

Cant filter out garbage with garbage.

[hobz]

3 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

In any other country this would be a full blown constitutional crisis - as there is no such thing at the moment the job fals to PM Prayuth and his cohorts to sort this out. There are no easy choices but the most obvious one would find popularity with every level of Thai society and be a new fresh start. I sincerely hope we are entering the end game for this monstrous world class farce.

 

Be careful what you wish for... There has not been much bloodspill since military took over..

[retarius]

Section 44 and close facebook down.

[Sunderland]

Lalaland is now the hub of over 60s beach fashion.

[candide]

8 hours ago, poohy said:

Wouldn't be so sure about that just looked at a Uk newspaper FB page (no VPN or anything odd) with a news item headline .............. FB 1 (name of country)0 photos etc still there

I never said that all contents have been blocked but that some cases have already been reported. But facebook only does it if there is a court order. I guess you refer to the DM, it is probably too recent for facebook to receive a court order about it (if any is issued, I can imagine the reactions in UK newspapers if this one is blocked).