Military tells baht bus operators: Organizing you will mean more visitors and better traffic flow

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Military tells baht bus operators: Organizing you will mean more visitors and better traffic flow

 

Picture: Pattaya News

 

PATTAYA: -- Pattaya News reported on a meeting held at baht bus HQ earlier this week in which the military explained recent policies to improve transport at the resort.

 

Phaphornan Leuangphanuwat and a team of military men attended the meeting to announce the "new way forward" for the "world class" resort.

 

Basically Phaphornan said that creating better organization would be good for everyone in Pattaya.

 

He told the baht bus operators: "The better organized the resort is the more visitors there will be".

 

And organizing transport arrangements better meant that there would be the added benefit of better traffic flow at the resort.

 

The meeting was held Tuesday behind the temple of Wat Krathing Rai.

 

Source: Pattaya News

 

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[NormanW]

Plain and simple.

Step 1:Just reduce the numbers. 

 

[LennyW]

38 minutes ago, NormanW said:

Plain and simple.

Step 1:Just reduce the numbers. 

 

100% correct, 50% of them off the road immediately!!

[Dave67]

Sad state of  affairs when the military need to be brought in to organize bus drivers

[bkk6060]

3 minutes ago, Dave67 said:

Sad state of  affairs when the military need to be brought in to organize bus drivers

Why is that?  The military is the government and most governments are in control of this type of regulation.

[KittenKong]

2 hours ago, NormanW said:

Plain and simple.

Step 1:Just reduce the numbers. 

 

 

I dont think that the numbers cause the jams. Double-parking causes the jams and bahtbuses and big coaches are some of the worst offenders.

 

Stiff instant fines for inconsiderate parking/stopping would solve this overnight. Thais only care about money so hit them where it hurts.

[mikebell]

21 minutes ago, KittenKong said:

stiff instant fines for inconsiderate parking/stopping would solve this overnight.

Who issues the fines?  The police who condone all manner of lawlessness to feather their own nest.  How else do the meterless taximeters continue to flourish?

[Chrisdoc123]

Better traffic flow means faster traffic means easier for pedestrians to be hit crossing the road. I find the safest time to cross is when a baht bus stops and as a result the traffic slows.

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[mark01]

All baht busses were banned from soi buakao to ease congestion.

Absolutely nothing changed. In fact there are probably more baht busses driving along that Soi now...

 

 

 

[Pdaz]

Halve the ammount of buses. More passengers per bus, better earnings for the drivers and half the congestion. Ban all the bloody coaches too while they are at it.

Funny, the might of the Thai Military having to bargain with an "association" of taxi mafia scum

[Jingthing]

People that want half the buses are generally not regular riders. 

Try getting a seat on a bus coming from Jomtien in high season when 9 out of 10 buses are passing empty (seeking charters) and you might be singing a different tune, dudes.

Yes, less buses in the context of a real taxi meter system or mass transit alternative like streetcars or big buses.

That's not going to happen, so ... keep the buses. 

Edited July 20, 2017 by Jingthing

[Lemonltr]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

People that want half the buses are generally not regular riders. 

Try getting a seat on a bus coming from Jomtien in high season when 9 out of 10 buses are passing empty (seeking charters) and you might be singing a different tune, dudes.

No logic in what you say. If the 50% removed were the empty ones it would make no difference to your ability to get one. The logical answer to your problem would be to stop them acting as taxis whenever they choose to do so.

[saminoz]

4 hours ago, KittenKong said:

 

I dont think that the numbers cause the jams. Double-parking causes the jams and bahtbuses and big coaches are some of the worst offenders.

 

Stiff instant fines for inconsiderate parking/stopping would solve this overnight. Thais only care about money so hit them where it hurts.

Make all Big tour buses stop outside city centre and make the Chinese hordes catch baht buses into the centre. 

Problem solved!

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Lemonltr said:

No logic in what you say. If the 50% removed were the empty ones it would make no difference to your ability to get one. The logical answer to your problem would be to stop them acting as taxis whenever they choose to do so.

Again, I seriously doubt many regular baht bus rider think there are too many buses. Such biased comments generally come from people that don't depend on the system. 

Edited July 20, 2017 by Jingthing

[bkk6060]

A big problem are in fact the pedestrians.  Unfortunately, there are limited crosswalks.  But, many continually walk in the middle of the street and put their hand up at you requesting you to stop.  In many countries it is called jay walking.  They do not have the right a way.

So, from one lane, to the next, to the next, they stop traffic in effect causing some of the back up problem.

An answer would to build some walk overs as they have in Bangkok.  But, wishful.....  

[KittenKong]

5 hours ago, mikebell said:

Who issues the fines?  The police who condone all manner of lawlessness to feather their own nest.  How else do the meterless taximeters continue to flourish?

 

If the police are a problem then maybe the military government should first sort them out. After all, they are a branch of the military.

[wgdanson]

15 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

A big problem are in fact the pedestrians.  Unfortunately, there are limited crosswalks.  But, many continually walk in the middle of the street and put their hand up at you requesting you to stop.  In many countries it is called jay walking.  They do not have the right a way.

So, from one lane, to the next, to the next, they stop traffic in effect causing some of the back up problem.

An answer would to build some walk overs as they have in Bangkok.  But, wishful.....  

......right OF way..................

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, KittenKong said:

 

I dont think that the numbers cause the jams. Double-parking causes the jams and bahtbuses and big coaches are some of the worst offenders.

 

Stiff instant fines for inconsiderate parking/stopping would solve this overnight. Thais only care about money so hit them where it hurts.

There has always been at least 50% too many baht buses since the early 90s.

What should happen is a limited number allowed to do the circuit, and the rest doing other roads. While Beach and 2nd have too many buses, there is a severe shortage on 3rd, South, Central and North.

The ones doing the circuit can be identified by a different colour scheme.

What isn't wanted is this being used as an excuse to put fares up. Less buses will result in more customers per bus.

 

Ban the tour buses on Beach too.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, mark01 said:

All baht busses were banned from soi buakao to ease congestion.

Absolutely nothing changed. In fact there are probably more baht busses driving along that Soi now...

 

 

 

Just as well too. How did the idiots that made that ruling think people were going to get anywhere without bahtbuses.

It is congested, but if they banned parking it would solve that.

[saminoz]

2 hours ago, wgdanson said:

......right OF way..................

Quite right!

You're showing what an old English "queen" you are!

[just.a.thought]

They have these fine bus stops but none of the drivers seems to know what they are for. Double even triple parking, pulling out when ever they see fit,without regards to traffic around them. Honk at them and they come flying out, with a baseball bat or a sword,totally and utterly unorganized. Saddest part is that they have been trying to organize them for years now but it is still them same driver attitude.

[champers]

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Again, I seriously doubt many regular baht bus rider think there are too many buses. Such biased comments generally come from people that don't depend on the system. 

Quite right. There ought to be less private cars on the road, most of which contain the driver and no passengers.

[champers]

4 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

A big problem are in fact the pedestrians.  Unfortunately, there are limited crosswalks.  But, many continually walk in the middle of the street and put their hand up at you requesting you to stop.  In many countries it is called jay walking.  They do not have the right a way.

So, from one lane, to the next, to the next, they stop traffic in effect causing some of the back up problem.

An answer would to build some walk overs as they have in Bangkok.  But, wishful.....  

Another answer would be for vehicle drivers to show more consideration for pedestrians, who don't mostly have a safe haven to cross the road.

[YetAnother]

grudgingly give them a thumbs up on this; this crew could actually hold on

[reenatinnakor]

Now organize the taxi drivers to use their meters and not charge 500 baht for a 3km ride.

[jaywalker]

Organizing traffic in Pattaya is akin to herding cats. Good Luck!

[NanLaew]

16 hours ago, KittenKong said:

 

If the police are a problem then maybe the military government should first sort them out. After all, they are a branch of the military.

Citation needed.

[KittenKong]

4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Citation needed.

 

Apparently I was wrong and they aren't fully part of the military, though they are often described as such.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Thai_Police

 

However, the RTP is directly under the office of the prime minister, who of course is currently also the top military man. So the end result currently is that the top military man is indeed in charge of the police.

[Dave67]

On 20/07/2017 at 6:47 AM, bkk6060 said:

Why is that?  The military is the government and most governments are in control of this type of regulation.

Agreed normal for Thailand, not other countries. Comment was about miliary Junta contoling everything even bus drivers

[bkk6060]

With this, I am sure most are aware the Military is the boss of the land.  They can give the Thai police orders and direction, not the other way around.