Kawasaki W175 and 175SE

[nev]

Looks tops for a retro bike and out in December.

Priced at 83,000bt and 86,000bt for the SE.

Might be another bike arriving in my garage soon.

[pbas400]

nice bike , good price

 

the 250 will be at 220.000 thb, same Honda CB500X   , overpriced for 250

[OmegaRacer]

Looks very nice and perfectly priced to take away customers from Stallions.

[Denim]

Does look nice....might even be tempted myself.  Goodbye to the wave  time.

 

Don't suppose Stallions will be too happy about it though.

 

 

As pbas400 said.....the  250 seems way overpriced. Not worth the extra 75 cc.

[papa al]

B220K

Must be misprint.

Maybe 120.

[Issanman]

Yes, that is a crazy price for this bike. I don't think they will sell very many at B220K.

 

[nev]

1 hour ago, Issanman said:

Yes, that is a crazy price for this bike. I don't think they will sell very many at B220K.

 

Agree it looks good, but what does it have to warrant that price?.

[MartinL]

The 250 has been around as the Estrella since about 1992. Looks like it's been renamed to fit into Kawasaki's 'W' retro class.

 

 

[Denim]

1 hour ago, MartinL said:

The 250 has been around as the Estrella since about 1992. Looks like it's been renamed to fit into Kawasaki's 'W' retro class.

 

 

True. I saw this on Thaiscooter.com a few years back and was very tempted at 70,000 baht. Looked too good to be true.

 

 

[MartinL]

8 minutes ago, Denim said:

True. I saw this on Thaiscooter.com a few years back and was very tempted at 70,000 baht. Looked too good to be true.

 

 

The BMW badge is a nice touch!  

[Neilly]

1 hour ago, MartinL said:

The 250 has been around as the Estrella since about 1992. Looks like it's been renamed to fit into Kawasaki's 'W' retro class.

Thanks for that...when I saw the pic's yesterday I thought something looked familiar...saw this a few years ago and did a check then because I'd never heard of Estrella

 

 

[eisfeld]

7 hours ago, nev said:

but what does it have to warrant that price?.

Must have a supercharger I guess. H2.50 hm...

[pbas400]

http://greatbiker.com/เจาะลึก-kawasaki-w-series-โดยทีมงาน-greatbiker/

 

202.000 thb for the 250 ? 

[VocalNeal]

Enfield Bullet 500 would be cheaper?

 

 

One could get a Continental GT for the same price.

 

 

 

 

 

[Issanman]

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[Denim]

Pity about the black rims. Chrome would have been more retro.

[Rhys]

Really enjoy seeing the retro look...

[JonnyF]

The 175 looks pretty good for those who want a cheap reliable retro bike . That's an insane jump in price from the 175 to the 250 though. Wonder what the reason is?

 

 

[kaorop]

Looks like the old Boss 175 engine is back in production. Good news for mwah, i have one..

[Damrongsak]

On 11/20/2017 at 8:51 AM, Denim said:

Pity about the black rims. Chrome would have been more retro.

What the hell is it with black rims, black plastic this-and-that on all the latest bikes?  I guess it's for stealth so you can sneak up on people and snatch purses and phones.  Wouldn't want chrome or aluminum or lighter paint to show the bike up at night.  Might distract the 10-wheel truck driver who is about to run over you.

[papa al]

23 hours ago, JonnyF said:

The 175 looks pretty good for those who want a cheap reliable retro bike . That's an insane jump in price from the 175 to the 250 though. Wonder what the reason is?

 

 

...perhaps profit motive....

[U CNX]

On 21.11.2017 at 7:25 AM, JonnyF said:

The 175 looks pretty good for those who want a cheap reliable retro bike . That's an insane jump in price from the 175 to the 250 though. Wonder what the reason is?

 

different rates custom duties only

 

W 175 & W 175SE - made in Indonesia 

 

W 250 -  made in Japan

 

 

[OmegaRacer]

Hmm...don't think so. Didn't Japan and Thailand start a 0% tax agreement since end of last year?

[AllanB]

On 19/11/2017 at 12:29 PM, OmegaRacer said:

Looks very nice and perfectly priced to take away customers from Stallions.

I think you have it right there, they have seen the huge popularity of the Stallion in a market that still hates Chinese stuff. With a big 4 badge on it it should sell really well.

 

The "Bonnie" look has always been good, for me the frame is still too small...I am guessing...shame.

 

175 single seems a good size for Thailand and that flat seat is the best for a longish ride 2up.. 

[AllanB]

Another one for the Stallion market. 

 

[ktm jeff]

58 minutes ago, AllanB said:

Another one for the Stallion market. 

 

Good find Allan. This same bike has been on sale in England for at least most of this year , as a Hanway. In England its a 125 cc bike for £ 2,299 / B 96,000 .

[OmegaRacer]

looks nice. Available in Thailand?

[JonnyF]

On 11/22/2017 at 6:38 AM, papa al said:

...perhaps profit motive....

Jonnyf is not sure if papa is serious so Jonnyf will give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

Setting an unrealistic sales price does not generally increase overall profit. It reduces sales units, otherwise a Honda Wave would be 100k Baht. Jonnyf hopes papa understands this.

[paz]

On 11/22/2017 at 10:25 AM, OmegaRacer said:

Hmm...don't think so. Didn't Japan and Thailand start a 0% tax agreement since end of last year?

It could be 0% on anything they agreed to, but certainly not on automotive! That is an industry which is always protected. 

[OmegaRacer]

Found this in another thread.

Trade agreement regarding motorcycles. 

 

Reading the notes at the start (see extract below), my interpretation is the agreement started Nov 2007 so

2nd year starts April 1 2008 49.09%

3rd year starts April 1 2009 43.64%

4th year starts April 1 2010 38.18%

5th year starts April 1 2011 32.73%

6th year starts April 1 2012 27.27%

7th year starts April 1 2013 21.82%

8th year starts April 1 2014 16.38%

9th year starts April 1 2015 10.91%

10th year starts April 1 2016 5.45%

11th year starts April 1 2017 0%