Brexit has created chaos in Britain – nobody voted for this

[nauseus]

14 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Can we get back on topic? 

 

Peasants and their allotments are not of general interest 

By all means, Grouse. Remainers to serve, I think? 

[soalbundy]

1 hour ago, transam said:

So you think the UK's "deterrent" isn't brainy..?

 

Oh well..

 

 

Not really, I know that they aren't meant to be used,it's the club in the corner of the room but if they were used the UK would be a cinder in the North sea what's the point? If you don't have nukes then nukes won't be used against you, oh we might be invaded and occupied by the Russians, sounds better than being a cinder at the seaside of a sovereign UK.

[talahtnut]

2 hours ago, transam said:

So you think the UK's "deterrent" isn't brainy..?

 

Oh well..

 

 

Brainy for sure..but totally illogical.

[Grouse]

Game theory anyone?

 

oh well, back to the vegetables ?

[soalbundy]

2 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Game theory anyone?

 

oh well, back to the vegetables ?

You just want an argument,as soon as somebody lightens things up with atomic bombs you want to get on topic again.

[nauseus]

10 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Game theory anyone?

 

oh well, back to the vegetables ?

Grouse and The Vegetables. 

 

 

Good name for a band!

[aright]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Grouse and The Vegetables. 

 

 

Good name for a band!

I see him more as "Dow Jones and the Industrials" or "The Flaming Doughnuts of Jesus" 

[transam]

Just for Bill....

 

Blancmange...

[Airbagwill]

A small country that nobody likes with a loony regime that threatens people with a limited nuclear arsenal.....who does that remind you of?

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

A small country that nobody likes with a loony regime that threatens people with a limited nuclear arsenal.....who does that remind you of?

North Korea....?

[sandyf]

On 4/1/2018 at 1:37 PM, nauseus said:

I didn't say that either! If you don't want to read what I post why comment at all?

Yes you did but I am not going to argue the toss over your distorted vocabulary.

 

You and many others just want to use Greece to try and vindicate your anti EU stance.

[AYJAYDEE]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

North Korea....?

israel

 

[sandyf]

On 4/1/2018 at 1:40 PM, nauseus said:

You must have the inside track on the final outcome of the Brexit negotiations. Please tell us all.

We can only hope that you have got it right on the final outcome, the UK will remain in the customs union.

[sandyf]

The EU Japan agreement was concluded in Dec 2017 and they aim to get it into force by the end of 2019. The UK would rather turn its back on this agreement, and the others, and try and go it alone in the delusion they will get the same benefits. The Japanese market has 127 million consumers, a good bit more than the UK and a lot less than the EU. It is all about leverage.

 

"Shinichi Iida, minister for public diplomacy and media, said his country's "first and foremost priority" was rubber-stamping its historic trade agreement with Brussels – the largest the EU has ever signed – before work could begin on establishing lucrative free trade deals with the UK."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-japan-shinichi-iida-trade-eu-theresa-may-a8280021.html

 

"The conclusion of these negotiations is an important milestone to put in place the biggest bilateral trade agreement ever negotiated by the European Union. The Economic Partnership Agreement will open huge market opportunities for both sides, strengthen cooperation between Europe and Japan in a range of areas, reaffirm their shared commitment to sustainable development, and include for the first time a specific commitment to the Paris climate agreement."

http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=1767

[soalbundy]

46 minutes ago, sandyf said:

The EU Japan agreement was concluded in Dec 2017 and they aim to get it into force by the end of 2019. The UK would rather turn its back on this agreement, and the others, and try and go it alone in the delusion they will get the same benefits. The Japanese market has 127 million consumers, a good bit more than the UK and a lot less than the EU. It is all about leverage.

 

"Shinichi Iida, minister for public diplomacy and media, said his country's "first and foremost priority" was rubber-stamping its historic trade agreement with Brussels – the largest the EU has ever signed – before work could begin on establishing lucrative free trade deals with the UK."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-japan-shinichi-iida-trade-eu-theresa-may-a8280021.html

 

"The conclusion of these negotiations is an important milestone to put in place the biggest bilateral trade agreement ever negotiated by the European Union. The Economic Partnership Agreement will open huge market opportunities for both sides, strengthen cooperation between Europe and Japan in a range of areas, reaffirm their shared commitment to sustainable development, and include for the first time a specific commitment to the Paris climate agreement."

http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=1767

There is a reason that the UK hasn't signed off article 127, a few brain cells have kicked in.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, sandyf said:

We can only hope that you have got it right on the final outcome, the UK will remain in the customs union.

All your words, not mine. 

[aright]

I have just read a convincing argument that post Brexit the UK should increase productivity and efficiency by employing more consultants.

 

A lesson on how consultants can make a difference  in an organization. Very Impressive!  Last week, we took some friends to a new restaurant, 'Steve's Place,' and noticed that the waiter who took our order carried a spoon in his shirt pocket.  It seemed a little strange. When the busboy brought our water and utensils, I observed that he also had a spoon in his shirt pocket.  Then I looked around and saw that all the staff had spoons in their pockets. When the waiter came back to serve our soup I inquired, 'Why the spoon?'

 

'Well, 'he explained,'the restaurant's owner hired Andersen Consulting to revamp all of our processes. After several months of analysis, they concluded that the spoon was the most frequently dropped  utensil. It represents a drop frequency of approximately 3 spoons per table per hour.  If our personnel are better prepared, we can reduce the number of trips back to the kitchen and save 15 man-hours per shift.'

 

As  luck would have it, I dropped my spoon and he replaced it with his spare. 'I'll get another spoon next time I go to the kitchen instead of making an extra trip to get it right now.'

 

I was impressed.  I also noticed that there was a string hanging Out of the waiter's fly.  Looking  around, I saw that all of the waiters had the same string hanging from their flies.

 

So, before he walked off, I asked the waiter, 'Excuse me, but can you tell me why you have That string right there?'

 

"Oh, certainly!' Then he lowered his voice. 'Not everyone is so observant. That consulting firm I mentioned also learned that we can save time in the restroom.  By tying this string to the tip of our you-know-what, we can pull it out without touching it and eliminate the need to wash our hands, shortening the time spent in the  restroom by 76.39%.

 

I asked quietly, 'After you get it out, how do you put it back?'  'Well,' he whispered, 'I don't know about the others, but I use the spoon!'

 

 

[sandyf]

6 hours ago, nauseus said:

All your words, not mine. 

You dispute there would be cross border regulations post brexit and you dispute there will be a customs union post brexit.

Time to make your mind up.

[tebee]

You know this thread could be quite an appropriate metaphor for Brexit.

 

It's barged on for ages, both sides talking past the other, not understanding (or even trying to) what the other is saying, and replying with trite catchphrases and producing mountains of hot air, but nothing of any use to man or beast.

 

Now it's morphed into something completely different to what it started as, but we keep talking on it as it seems to have acquired a life of its own and must be completed.

 

It will probably result in nothing useful being achieved, but will be just a great waste of everyone's time.  

[sandyf]

7 minutes ago, tebee said:

You know this thread could be quite an appropriate metaphor for Brexit.

 

It's barged on for ages, both sides talking past the other, not understanding (or even trying to) what the other is saying, and replying with trite catchphrases and producing mountains of hot air, but nothing of any use to man or beast.

 

Now it's morphed into something completely different to what it started as, but we keep talking on it as it seems to have acquired a life of its own and must be completed.

 

It will probably result in nothing useful being achieved, but will be just a great waste of everyone's time.  

Quite right, nothing useful will ever be achieved from brexit and a tremendous waste of everyone's money far less time.

[ukrules]

40 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Quite right, nothing useful will ever be achieved from brexit and a tremendous waste of everyone's money far less time.

 

I think you will find in time that this Brexit thing was the beginning of the end of the European Union.

 

It will descend into chaos as they argue over who pays the bills in the next 5 years or so, then the shit will really hit the fan.

 

They're already arguing about it now as they prepare the next budget, the reality won't hit for a few years. It will hit the remaining EU members hard.

 

You have member countries stating that there is no way they will increase their contributions or change from net gainers to net payers.

 

It's going to get very ugly.

 

[Khun Han]

1 hour ago, tebee said:

You know this thread could be quite an appropriate metaphor for Brexit.

 

It's barged on for ages, both sides talking past the other, not understanding (or even trying to) what the other is saying, and replying with trite catchphrases and producing mountains of hot air, but nothing of any use to man or beast.

 

Now it's morphed into something completely different to what it started as, but we keep talking on it as it seems to have acquired a life of its own and must be completed.

 

It will probably result in nothing useful being achieved, but will be just a great waste of everyone's time.  

 

???

 

The only 'achievements' that take place on ThaiVisa forum take place elsewhere, where people help each other out with useful practical info and advice. We just shoot the breeze in the politics discussions.

[nontabury]

25 minutes ago, ukrules said:

 

I think you will find in time that this Brexit thing was the beginning of the end of the European Union.

 

It will descend into chaos as they argue over who pays the bills in the next 5 years or so, then the shit will really hit the fan.

 

They're already arguing about it now as they prepare the next budget, the reality won't hit for a few years. It will hit the remaining EU members hard.

 

You have member countries stating that there is no way they will increase their contributions or change from net gainers to net payers.

 

It's going to get very ugly.

 

The same as another forced union in Europe. YUGOSLAVIA.

The quicker we’re out of it the better.

[StreetCowboy]

1 hour ago, nontabury said:

The same as another forced union in Europe. YUGOSLAVIA.

The quicker we’re out of it the better.

I'm hoping it doesn't end up like the former Yugoslavia.

[StreetCowboy]

2 hours ago, tebee said:

You know this thread could be quite an appropriate metaphor for Brexit.

 

It's barged on for ages, both sides talking past the other, not understanding (or even trying to) what the other is saying, and replying with trite catchphrases and producing mountains of hot air, but nothing of any use to man or beast.

 

Now it's morphed into something completely different to what it started as, but we keep talking on it as it seems to have acquired a life of its own and must be completed.

 

It will probably result in nothing useful being achieved, but will be just a great waste of everyone's time.  

I think it will result in Britain having a lot less influence in Europe, and probably the world.

[ukrules]

15 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

I think it will result in Britain having a lot less influence in Europe, and probably the world.

Not a big deal.

[aright]

3 hours ago, tebee said:

It will probably result in nothing useful being achieved, but will be just a great waste of everyone's time.  

Viewing or contributing to this thread is not compulsory especially for an erudite fellow like yourself.

Thanks for the advice but I will be the best judge of how I spend my time.

 

[uffe123]

I think this guy must have been smoking too much weed and have had a memory lapse. If I remember more than 50% of Brits vote for Brexit? what the hell, blame the Russians. 

[Slip]

30 minutes ago, uffe123 said:

I think this guy must have been smoking too much weed and have had a memory lapse. If I remember more than 50% of Brits vote for Brexit? what the hell, blame the Russians. 

Not sure which guy you are talking about, but yourmemory has failed you.  At no time have  50% of Brits voted for Brexit.

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, sandyf said:

You dispute there would be cross border regulations post brexit and you dispute there will be a customs union post brexit.

Time to make your mind up.

Send me the post number where I said either.