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Brexit has created chaos in Britain – nobody voted for this

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1 minute ago, sirineou said:

Precisely my argument .

As an American I don't have an educated Opinion about Brexit. I follow this Thread and others , to become more so, and so far I don't see any argument to convince me that Brexit was a good idea.

But regardless of outcome , such a underwhelming consensus  will have a negative affect in the psyche of the British people that will reverberate for years, IMO the only viable option forward, is a new referendum.  

Well it may not be educated but it is evidently an opinion.

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Just now, Justfine said:

Many elections are within a few points. If you lose be humble and accept it.

 

Nothing worse than sore losers.

Not something of existential dimensions, 

The UK is also a Union and what's good for the goose is good for the gander . since some members of the the UK have voted overwhelmingly for "Stay" if brexit proceeds without a clear consensus  there is a high possibility for them to secede from the UK and remain or rejoin the EU, 

3 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Not something of existential dimensions, 

The UK is also a Union and what's good for the goose is good for the gander . since some members of the the UK have voted overwhelmingly for "Stay" if brexit proceeds without a clear consensus  there is a high possibility for them to secede from the UK and remain or rejoin the EU, 

Excuse making.

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10 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Precisely my argument .

As an American I don't have an educated Opinion about Brexit. I follow this Thread and others , to become more so, and so far I don't see any argument to convince me that Brexit was a good idea.

But regardless of outcome , such a underwhelming consensus  will have a negative affect in the psyche of the British people that will reverberate for years, IMO the only viable option forward, is a new referendum.  

 

When people realise that their lives are carrying on as normal after brexit, there will be little negativity. When people start to see the benefits of brexit a few years down the line, the arguments will be forgotten about.

6 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

When people realise that their lives are carrying on as normal after brexit, there will be little negativity. When people start to see the benefits of brexit a few years down the line, the arguments will be forgotten about.

You mean . IF

1 hour ago, sirineou said:

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That's why I said a poor "attempt" , perhaps  you missed the LOL

. Remember just because you don't find it funny it does not mean that it does not contain humor. Unless of course you are the final arbitrator pf what is ans is not funny.

 

Simoh is the final arbitrator of everything :smile:.

5 minutes ago, sirineou said:

You mean . IF

I'm a positive person.

1 minute ago, Khun Han said:

I'm a positive person.

Me too but I always look both sides of the street before crossing. 

28 minutes ago, Justfine said:

Excuse making.

And yet another opinion.

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the lefty guardian with desperate news of a fake variety .on its last legs and begging for money to keep going

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The UK voted to leave by what was, compared to General Elections, a huge majority.

The increase in street people started under Tony Blair 15+ years ago and the hosing shortage has been made worse by the hundreds of thousands of new eastern EU arrivals since then.

This woman is typical of the bleeding heart liberals that read the Grauniad, it is time they grew up.

The referendum was billed as a "once only event" at the time and we had enough debate to sink the island of boredom.

Project fear did not work, and there have been others that have tried to scare the British and failed.

Get used to the result, the latest poll says 65% of voters don't want another vote whatever you try to blame on Brexit.

The EU is undemocratic, spendthrift, expansionist nonsense and the sooner we are OUT the better.

 

28 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

the lefty guardian with desperate news of a fake variety .on its last legs and begging for money to keep going

Tis funny how they beg for money.

39 minutes ago, nauseus said:

And yet another opinion.

No opinions = no forum

 

Not sure why you are here then.

2 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Depends on what a grecian urns:sorry:

 

About 3 quid a week in real money. :sorry: too.

12 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Try being a little more dispassionate, you'll give yourself a heart attack. 

No need some of us can take the truth

1 hour ago, Justfine said:

No opinions = no forum

 

Not sure why you are here then.

Read back. Don't be lazy.

1 hour ago, malagateddy said:

Just wish all the remoaners would accept the result..you lost..best to get on with your lifes

Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

I can't believe that some still tthink that cliche is a reasonable comment.

One of the key tenets of a democratic country is the right and ability to change a policy or ones mind.

An integral part of that is to argue your point.(that's the tenet of free speech)

I find it rather confirms the stereotype of Brexiteers that they truly don't understand whatdmocracybis, confusing some ghastly mob rule parody of the democrstic process instead.

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11 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, Samuel Johnson 1775.

The graveyards are full of patriots and a land fit for heroes never existed, they get a free poppy though.

One might say its thanks to them that we are able to have this debate

You and people of your ilk would do well to remember that and show a little respect fella

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11 hours ago, simoh1490 said:

I like that, very much.

You would do because its sad and disgusting

3 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

One might say its thanks to them that we are able to have this debate

You and people of your ilk would do well to remember that and show a little respect fella

Blind faith in the legacy of war is another symptom of not truly appreciating history.

4 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

people of your ilk

...and this is an example of stereotype over reasoning.

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Just now, Airbagwill said:

Blind faith in the legacy of war is another symptom of not truly appreciating hisTory.

History is history mind your manners

The poppy remark was SICK

So is anybody who thinks its acceptable

Just now, oldlakey said:

History is history mind your manners

The poppy remark was SICK

So is anybody who thinks its acceptable

QED

7 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

One might say its thanks to them that we are able to have this debate

You and people of your ilk would do well to remember that and show a little respect fella

what ! scoundrels?

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1 minute ago, Airbagwill said:

...and this is an example of stereotype over reasoning.

Just two so far the sicko who said it and the sicko who liked it

Just how far are you lot going to go in your pursuit of your disappointment 

10 hours ago, Justfine said:

65m isnt small.

Thats relative my good man

22 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

History is history mind your manners

The poppy remark was SICK

So is anybody who thinks its acceptable

Some of us learn from history.

My family fought on both sides in the US revolution

They fought on both sides in the first and second world wars too.

What we learned from that is how futile war is and how important unity is in Europe.

We also the learned from the US civil war (yes othb sides!) that bringing the confederates back into the Union actually finally molded the USA into a solid, permanent Union.

Let's hope history repeats it self this time.

3 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

Some of us learn from history.

My family fought on both sides in the US revolution

They fought on both sides in the first and second world wars too.

What we learned from that is how futile war is and how important unity is in Europe.

We also the learned from the US civil war (yes othb sides!) that bringing the confederates back into the Union actually finally molded the USA into a solid, permanent Union.

Let's hope history repeats it self this time.

Not for the winners it wasn't me old

I bet you have got one hell of a family tree

11 hours ago, Justfine said:

65m isnt small.

It's a fairly long though.

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