Renew 5 Year Driving Licence

[Isan Farang]

Went to renew my bike & car 5 year licence today in Ubon. Apart from the boredom its super easy. Arrived at 8am and would have been done by noon if there had not been a power cut. It was a full house with 100 present. They have 2 classes per day, and the lady said normally the afternoon one is not so busy.

Had to do a simple colour test, and then went to listen/view a lecture and video all in Thai.

 

The documents required was  

1. Copy of my yellow book

2. Copy of my main passport page

3. Copy of my 1 year retirement visa

 

Cost was 760 Baht for both

[Nobody55]

 didn't they ask for your medical certificate?????

[Norlund]

4 hours ago, Nobody55 said:

 didn't they ask for your medical certificate?????

You don't need when it's from 5 year to 5 year. 

[Patriot]

Totally agree. I was not looking forward to the occasion but the staff there are really helpful. As IsanFarang said; super easy. 

[DILLIGAD]

Totally agree. I was not looking forward to the occasion but the staff there are really helpful. As IsanFarang said; super easy. 

Let’s hope nearby Sisaket are as easy, as mine are due next month!


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[stereolab]

In addition to the simple colour eye test,  did you get the peripheral vision test? Recently in Nong Khai I renewed my 5 year car driving licence and this was part of the test. I easily passed the simple colour test, but failed the peripheral test, they gave me a few extra minutes to rest my eyes, re-took the test with the Boss of the office, and just passed. No chance of passing in 5 years time. Will look for an office which , hopefully, does not require this element of the test.

[Isan Farang]

30 minutes ago, stereolab said:

In addition to the simple colour eye test,  did you get the peripheral vision test? Recently in Nong Khai I renewed my 5 year car driving licence and this was part of the test. I easily passed the simple colour test, but failed the peripheral test, they gave me a few extra minutes to rest my eyes, re-took the test with the Boss of the office, and just passed. No chance of passing in 5 years time. Will look for an office which , hopefully, does not require this element of the test.

Only this one nothing else

 

 

[Nobody55]

13 hours ago, Norlund said:

You don't need when it's from 5 year to 5 year. 

Thanks it's good to know I will have to renew my 5 year driving license next year.

 

[SantiSuk]

On 11/9/2018 at 7:45 AM, DILLIGAD said:

Let’s hope nearby Sisaket are as easy, as mine are due next month!


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Did mine (car only) there in Feb this year. Similar to Isaan Farang's recount. Only tip is to take a Thai speaker with you unless your Thai is pretty good. Mine is better than basic but not good enough to follow their explanations of what's going to happen next or on instructions during the reaction tests etc.

[SantiSuk]

On 11/9/2018 at 8:49 AM, Isan Farang said:

Only this one nothing else

 

 

I'm partially colour blind to reds and greens. Can't see any numbers or graphics/images in that dot pic!!

 

I can tell what status a traffic light is from a distance - surely that is the only relevant colour test you need pass to drive safely!

 

I may be wrong, but I think I recall that I was concerned when they produced some kind of colour test in Sisaket, Dilli, but I had no problem dealing with the one they used. May be dreaming and maybe there was none.

[Sophon]

9 hours ago, SantiSuk said:

I'm partially colour blind to reds and greens. Can't see any numbers or graphics/images in that dot pic!!

 

I can tell what status a traffic light is from a distance - surely that is the only relevant colour test you need pass to drive safely!

 

I may be wrong, but I think I recall that I was concerned when they produced some kind of colour test in Sisaket, Dilli, but I had no problem dealing with the one they used. May be dreaming and maybe there was none.

You can't see any numbers or graphics in the picture because there aren't any.

 

Even though the board looks like a Ishihara color test board, it isn't. It's just a board with a lot of different colored dots. When doing the test they just point to one of the dots, and you have to tell them whether it's green, yellow or red (they don't select the blue dots).

 

Sophon

[wgdanson]

On 11/8/2018 at 7:50 PM, Norlund said:

You don't need when it's from 5 year to 5 year. 

Phitsanulok office say that I DO need a medical certificate and a Yellow Book, (for which they say I must be married) NOT Cert. of Residence. P'lok Imm say that C of R is sufficient. We'll see next month.

Edited November 13, 2018 by wgdanson

[wgdanson]

On 11/9/2018 at 8:17 AM, stereolab said:

In addition to the simple colour eye test,  did you get the peripheral vision test? Recently in Nong Khai I renewed my 5 year car driving licence and this was part of the test. I easily passed the simple colour test, but failed the peripheral test, they gave me a few extra minutes to rest my eyes, re-took the test with the Boss of the office, and just passed. No chance of passing in 5 years time. Will look for an office which , hopefully, does not require this element of the test.

Why not try to find an office which does not required you to pass any tests....then you'll be as good as any Thai driver. lol

[SantiSuk]

For Sisaket residents' benefit I had better be a bit more specific about our province's requirements now that other posters have cleared my memory about my visit in Feb-18 to renew a 5 year visa. Edit: there are other offices in Sisaket province of course but for some reason and for the first time my wife's visit to recce the requirements at the Kantharalak office ended up with her being told to go to the Muang office this time - I think it's likely to be because they had a discussion about doing the residence cert with immigration, conveniently close to Muang's Dept of Transport office

 

Firstly I did a recce visit in the earlyish part of the morning to find out what they wanted and dedicated a day to getting through the process. I strongly recommend this as it looks like from this thread that different offices have different requirements (no surprise there then) which usually comes with unannounced changes to requirements; what happened in Feb this year may no longer be the whole story.

 

What I now recall (from my anal records of cash spend) they wanted was:

* a residence certificate (possibly in substitute of a yellow book, which I don't have) - cost only 20 baht from Sisaket Immi office only 5km further round the Ring Road.

* a health certificate - 40 baht from the clinic in town that is on the SE corner of the crossroads out front of Sisaket railway station. This was the one thing I wasn't expecting I think otherwise I would have got one local to where I live. The Sisaket clinic I alighted on had sign off by the front desk lady - I don't think she even passed it inside to a doctor.

* 5 year license renewal fee of 555 baht

* Presumably I was asked for the old expiring license and maybe my passport (making sure all the attached gubbins is inside showing you are fully logged into Thailand - since it seems like everyone who deals with you these days short of the ice-cream seller is a part time spy for immigration!).

 

I went back mid morning and did all the paperwork at the counter and payment. I was then asked to come back for the afternoon session; about 2pm I think, but good idea to check timings if you do a recce run first as I think I just missed the mid morning one, unwittingly due to coffee stop.

 

The afternoon proceedings started with a video of Thai traffic accidents and recommendation epiphets, which took over an hour. I recall disagreeing strongly with the recommendation never to use your hazard lights while moving 'cos someone in a side road might think you are about to turn. Most Thais slept through most of the video. Then we queued up - about 10 of the 60 or so that watched the video (maybe the others had done this bit before the video) for individual tests which took only about 10 minutes.

 

Yes there was a coloured dots image, which I now remember was indeed only a 'point at red/point at yellow/point at green test. Yes there was a peripheral vision test which I also had some concern about since the flashing lights seemed unnecessarily dim/tiny, but I passed. Can't remember a long sight vision test - surely there must have been one. And a reaction test to see how quickly you slammed on the ersatz footbrake when a light came on.

 

 

So no great sweat, but expect the whole process to take quite a few hours if you are doing all the peripheral bits like health cert and residence cert on the same day.

 

Edited November 13, 2018 by SantiSuk

[SantiSuk]

4 hours ago, wgdanson said:

Why not try to find an office which does not required you to pass any tests....then you'll be as good as any Thai driver. lol

Why not re-read the poster's last sentence!

[Patriot]

Just now, wgdanson said:

Phitsanulok office say that I DO need a medical certificate and a Yellow Book, (for which they say I must be married) NOT Cert. of Residence. P'lok Imm say that C of R is sufficient. We'll see next month.

Must be married to acquire a Yellow Book, that’s a new one

[wgdanson]

22 minutes ago, SantiSuk said:

Why not re-read the poster's last sentence!

Why not re-read MY post where I put lol, meaning it was a JOKE.

[wgdanson]

9 minutes ago, Patriot said:

Must be married to acquire a Yellow Book, that’s a new one

Yes, and the guy at the Amphoe was totally adamant, even when I told him I was not divorced in UK. 

[sometimewoodworker]

10 hours ago, wgdanson said:

Phitsanulok office say that I DO need a medical certificate and a Yellow Book, (for which they say I must be married) NOT Cert. of Residence. P'lok Imm say that C of R is sufficient. We'll see next month.

They should not be asking for a medical cert. this is from the DLT main website, the bottom section is the relevant one

[bluesofa]

12 hours ago, wgdanson said:

Phitsanulok office say that I DO need a medical certificate and a Yellow Book, (for which they say I must be married) NOT Cert. of Residence. P'lok Imm say that C of R is sufficient. We'll see next month.

I'm not sure if you're interested in pursuing an application for a yellow book?

At the time I wasn't married when I obtained a yellow book. I was on a Non O retirement extension.

Initially I too was refused for "not being married."

 

There are two offices which may help. BORA is the head office which overseas all amphurs house registrations.

 

Call 1567 สำนักบริหารการทะเบียน

BORA Bureau Of Registration Administration, also 02-791-7000

 

Call 1676 สำนักงานผู้ตรวจการแผ่นดิน

Office Of The Ombudsman, also 02-141-9100

 

I had my wife (as is now) call BORA and ask about a yellow book. They told her all amphurs had to do it, they were not allowed to refuse. They also said they was no requirement to be married.

They even said if we had any problems to call them, and they would contact the amphur concerned.

 

Regarding the Office Of The Ombudsman:

I have read a couple of reports on TV when someone was refused an application for a yellow book, contacted the Ombudsman, who, within 24 hours made the amphur accept the application.

 

FYI, this is the amended act requiring by law the registration of non-Thais:

 

Thai Civil Registration Act 2551 [2008]

 

Section 21. Section 38 of the Civil Registration Act B.E. 2534 shall be repealed and replaced by the following:

“Section 38. The district or local registrar shall issue a household registration for persons without Thai nationality having been permitted to stay temporarily and those having been giving leniency for temporary residence in the Thai Kingdom as a special case in accordance with law on immigration and the declaration of the Cabinet and their children born within the Thai Kingdom. In a case of permission of temporary residence overdue, the registrar shall immediately dispose of such persons.

The Director of Central Registration shall make profile registration for persons without Thai nationality besides those under paragraph one in accordance with the declaration of the Cabinet.

Registrations under paragraph one and two shall lie in the manner prescribed in the regulations under the discretion of the Director of Central Registration.”

 

* * * * * * * * * *

(Ask your Amphur to point out just where in the Act it states you have to be married, or own property to obtain a Yellow house book.)

 

Edit:

Maybe if you show this below to the amphur, (including the text above listing the two phone numbers with the names in Thai script), they might realise they can't refuse you.

Below are the documents needed:

 

สำเนาทะเบียนบ้าน และ ของจริง

สำเนาบัตรประชาชน และ ของจริง

สำเนาพาสปอร์ตแปลเป็นภาษาไทยจากสถานที่มีการรับรองจากกรมการปกครอง และ ของจริง

 

House registration document of the house owner. Copy & original

Identification card of the house owner. Copy & original

Thai translation of passport details page certified by an approved translator. Copy & original (include both parent’s full names)

 

Edited November 13, 2018 by bluesofa
addendum

[Patriot]

5 years ago I was refused a yellow book by the Amphur but a helpful underling quietly suggested the tessabaan. No problem at all in fact quite the reverse - they couldn’t have been more helpful. I wasn’t married then, just my house owner and PuYaiBaan and the documents mentioned by “blue sofa”. 

The Amphur is Warin Chamrab, UBON and the tessabaan is Saen Suk. 

[stereolab]

On ‎11‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 8:11 AM, wgdanson said:

Why not try to find an office which does not required you to pass any tests....then you'll be as good as any Thai driver. lol

Next time, I think I will be looking farther afield than Nong Khai to avoid the peripheral test. The basic test I will breeze it easily.

[SantiSuk]

On 11/13/2018 at 1:18 PM, wgdanson said:

Why not re-read MY post where I put lol, meaning it was a JOKE.

Touche, or is it touchez!  ????

[wgdanson]

On 11/13/2018 at 1:14 PM, Patriot said:

Must be married to acquire a Yellow Book, that’s a new one

And yet another twist in this story. I think I may need a Medical Certificate, so off to the town next door to see  lady doctor, who in the past has prescribed me tablets for various ailments, and given injections to other members of the family. All OK.

Went to her today to get Medical Cert.....Oh no cannot do, I am not a REAL Doctor.

Must go to clinic in the next town.

[KhunBENQ]

2 hours ago, wgdanson said:

I think I may need a Medical Certificate

I haven't followed your story but:

For a 5 yr to 5 yr extension there is NO medical certificate required.

For 2 yr to 5 yr a medical certificate IS required.

Edited November 15, 2018 by KhunBENQ

[richard_smith237]

12 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

I haven't followed your story but:

For a 5 yr to 5 yr extension there is NO medical certificate required.

For 2 yr to 5 yr a medical certificate IS required.

And for a 5yr to a 2yr a medical cert was required.... 

 

 

Yes, I had to go from a 5yr to a temp 2yr licence as I was no longer on a Non-Immigrant visa.

[DILLIGAD]

And for a 5yr to a 2yr a medical cert was required.... 
 
 
Yes, I had to go from a 5yr to a temp 2yr licence as I was no longer on a Non-Immigrant visa.

So you were on a tourist visa then, when they reduced you down to a 2 year DL???


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[wgdanson]

26 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

I haven't followed your story but:

For a 5 yr to 5 yr extension there is NO medical certificate required.

For 2 yr to 5 yr a medical certificate IS required.

The man at Phitsanulok DLT mentioned a Medical Cert, so I thought I'd get one just in case. He was the one who also said I need a Yellow Book, but I have C of R instead. Thanks.

[richard_smith237]

4 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

The man at Phitsanulok DLT mentioned a Medical Cert, so I thought I'd get one just in case. He was the one who also said I need a Yellow Book, but I have C of R instead. Thanks.

Best to just have it...

 

At the DLT front desk I was told I didn’t  need a medical cert. 

At the counter they wanted one. Luckily I’d come prepared so didn’t have to make two trips to the DLT via a clinic... 

[richard_smith237]

4 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

The man at Phitsanulok DLT mentioned a Medical Cert, so I thought I'd get one just in case. He was the one who also said I need a Yellow Book, but I have C of R instead. Thanks.

Best to just have it...

 

At the DLT front desk I was told I didn’t  need a medical cert. 

At the counter they wanted one. Luckily I’d come prepared so didn’t have to make two trips to the DLT via a clinic...