Forum very slow and pages not loading

[cyril sneer]

it's still slow even when using uBlock extension which can block all ads without being detected

 

they obviously arn't paying for a decent enough server

[Spidey]

Just now, cyril sneer said:

it's still slow even when using uBlock extension which can block all ads without being detected

 

they obviously arn't paying for a decent enough server

Has seemed a lot better over the last 24 hours but far from perfect. Agree that renting more server capacity would be the obvious solution.

[sanemax]

8 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Has seemed a lot better over the last 24 hours but far from perfect. Agree that renting more server capacity would be the obvious solution.

And more adverts to pay for it , which will slow the site down again

[NCC1701A]

took 43 seconds to load a page, then then next click 5 seconds, then 52 seconds...

 

maybe i will go outside and look around.   

 

edit: and just got the cloudflare page.

Edited December 15, 2018 by NCC1701A

[Fruit Trader]

1 hour ago, cyril sneer said:

it's still slow even when using uBlock extension which can block all ads without being detected

 

they obviously arn't paying for a decent enough server

Why is it obvious they are not paying for a decent enough server? Most of the ad content comes from other servers.

[balo]

It amazes me they can't find out what's causing the lag every 30 minutes . Surely there must be some data gurus out there with the answers, 

 

[watcharacters]

On 12/7/2018 at 2:21 PM, DrTuner said:

Ah right. This started some time ago and is getting worse, I'd look into something that was added after the CSS change, likely a DB join query/index growing out of control/etc. No quick solution except to delete things, reduce functionality and so on. Or revert to the TVF that still worked.

 

You mean the one that was fixed when it wasn't broken?

 

[billd766]

I came on this morning at 11:17 and apart from the :02 and :32 timers it has been OK.

 

OTOH as it is the weekend and perhaps there are not as many users today.

[Basil B]

40 minutes ago, Fruit Trader said:

Why is it obvious they are not paying for a decent enough server? Most of the ad content comes from other servers.

Everyone will see different adds, google analyzes everyone by their searches, the sites they visit and even what you post, so predictable anyone who researches or writes about server problems is going to get server related adds. 

P.S. Almost certainly Google knows more about you than your own government. 

Edited December 15, 2018 by Basil B

[Fruit Trader]

3 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Everyone will see different adds, google analyzes everyone by their searches, the sites they visit and even what you post, so predictable anyone who researches or writes about server problems is going to get server related adds.  

Yes but that does not explain why people think thaivisa should invest in decent servers.

[Andrew Dwyer]

Everyone will see different adds, google analyzes everyone by their searches, the sites they visit and even what you post, so predictable anyone who researches or writes about server problems is going to get server related adds. 
P.S. Almost certainly Google knows more about you than your own government. 

That would explain why I get ads for penis enlargement and hair restoration !!

[cyril sneer]

1 hour ago, Fruit Trader said:

Why is it obvious they are not paying for a decent enough server? Most of the ad content comes from other servers.

because even without adverts it loads slower than any other website I know of

[Fruit Trader]

1 minute ago, cyril sneer said:

because even without adverts it loads slower than any other website I know of

But you dont know if the current servers are decent or not do you. 

[Basil B]

7 minutes ago, Fruit Trader said:

But you dont know if the current servers are decent or not do you. 

My thoughts are it is more software and database related issue, remember TV is far larger than your average forum.

[Spidey]

Just now, Basil B said:

My thoughts are it is more software and database related issue, remember TV is far larger than your average forum.

Software (Invision) is the same as other well known forums, who don't have this problem. The bigger the database, the bigger the server capacity required. I can remember another forum with a relatively large database, purchasing extra server capacity a few months ago.

[Fruit Trader]

7 minutes ago, Basil B said:

My thoughts are it is more software and database related issue, remember TV is far larger than your average forum.

My thoughts too but theres also a lot of script api calls, cache system and the use of cloudflare to consider. The possible list is endless. Also got to consider how much customization has taken place.

[Fruit Trader]

7 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Software (Invision) is the same as other well known forums, who don't have this problem. The bigger the database, the bigger the server capacity required. I can remember another forum with a relatively large database, purchasing extra server capacity a few months ago.

Its the number and complexity of calls made to the database thats most important.

[KhunBENQ]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

I came on this morning at 11:17 and apart from the :02 and :32 timers it has been OK.

 

OTOH as it is the weekend and perhaps there are not as many users today.

Not seen a 5xx today. Unusual.

Last time I praised the improvement it took two minutes to learn different

[Spidey]

Just now, Fruit Trader said:

Its the number and complexity of calls made to the database thats most important.

Which would, on average, be the same for all forums running a similar sized database with the same software.

[Spidey]

1 minute ago, KhunBENQ said:

Not seen a 5xx today. Unusual.

Last time I praised the improvement it took two minutes to learn different

I praised the improvement this morning and got a "502" a few minutes later. Still seems to be some improvement though.

[Fruit Trader]

3 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Which would, on average, be the same for all forums running a similar sized database with the same software.

Yes but the number of records in the database is not so important. A site with only 100 posts could quite easily fall over if too many people were trying to read them or the the system had a bug. The thaivisa server clearly shows it can handle its load during consistent time periods.

[Spidey]

3 minutes ago, Fruit Trader said:

Yes but the number of records in the database is not so important. A site with only 100 posts could quite easily fall over if too many people were trying to read them or the the system had a bug. The thaivisa server clearly shows it can handle its load during consistent time periods.

No it doesn't. The half hourly time slots are a bit of a red herring, it's seriously slow all of the time.

[Fruit Trader]

14 minutes ago, Spidey said:

No it doesn't. The half hourly time slots are a bit of a red herring, it's seriously slow all of the time.

No red fish for me its fast during out of the half hour slots and unusable on the hour and half hour.

 

Update 

14:12 - 14:23 site is loading fast even for posts back in 2004

Edited December 15, 2018 by Fruit Trader

[stud858]

I have noticed slight changes to esthetics of the site over time.

Modification to code maybe knocked something out of place. 

Anyway, nothing like a process of elimination my dear Watson and im sure things will come back to normalcy. Good luck and happy trouble shooting techies.

[billd766]

I notice that the post numbers have disappeared now.

[stud858]

I'm not getting all notifications and clicking on the who has responded tagline pop-up does nothing. 

[sungod]

On 11/15/2018 at 5:59 PM, ubonjoe said:

They have found that the problem is the connection between here and Singapore. Lost packets and etc. The problem has been reported and is being worked on.

And now its one month later and its still slow, even unusable at time. Ironic that since it was taken over and became a business and one would of thought 'professional', the operation of the forum has been completely 'amateur.'

 

[sungod]

On 12/15/2018 at 1:36 PM, Basil B said:

My thoughts are it is more software and database related issue, remember TV is far larger than your average forum.

I bet porn hub has got more users, BTW my neighbor says it's running flawlessly at the moment.

[Crossy]

Trust me, it's as frustrating for us as it is for you.

 

Sadly I can't offer any advice other than to avoid the forum at the top and bottom of the hour when things seem to go awry.

[KittenKong]

On 12/15/2018 at 2:09 PM, Spidey said:

No it doesn't. The half hourly time slots are a bit of a red herring, it's seriously slow all of the time.

I mentioned a week or so ago that the delays at x.02 and x.32 are probably the result of some cron job running every 30 minutes. I would expect it to be an indexing or archiving task.

 

If you ignore that particular 30-minute problem the site is indeed still slow to load all the time, but that's entirely due to the massive amount of ads and spurious images. Remove those and it is quite fast.