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Advice lacking for sexually active teens

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27 minutes ago, dpspike said:

Based on what I have learned from speaking with numerous bar girls and various prostitutes, it's grandma and grandpa that end up raising the kids while the new Mom is off to BKK, Pattaya, Koh Samui, or Phuket to get a "job" to send money home to support the child. It's a mutually beneficial system, whereby the old folks on the rice farm have a mechanism to gain some regular income (in a country with little or no social welfare available), and the mothers attain freedom and independence far away from what little parental control exists at home (to enjoy all the fun drinking, sex, shopping malls, etc). This is all fairly well ingrained in Thai culture. If the young girl is not from a well-to-do family, she probably isn't going to fetch much of marriage dowry anyway. Once the first baby comes, chances of a marriage dowry become even more remote, unless she finds some foreigner who is anxious to marry a younger woman despite having someone else's kid. Thai men are much more reluctant to overlook the kid than we farangs. There are likely other reasons young Thai girls are getting pregnant so frequently, but you can't discount the impact that pimping out their daughters has on the general acceptance of bearing children out of wedlock. Sorry if that sounds rude or mean spirited. I think it's a truly regretable situation. But I'm just reporting my observations. Draw your own conclusions.

Of course, can't say I mind it all really, since there is an endless supply of new girls in town to choose from ????

"Thai men are much more reluctant to overlook the kid than we farangs."

Thai men are much more reluctant to take any kind of responsibility for the kids they father willy nilly!

Fixed that for you!

(generalization for sure...I know! But still...)

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  • Since 2,600 girls became pregnant  between the ages of 10 - 14...does that mean 2,600 Thai men...fathers, uncles, brothers, cousins and neighbors were incarcerated?

  • that is shocking    and who else was involved - perhaps that is exactly were the problem actually is

  • Sex education, along with road safety education, are two giant holes in Thailands education system. The very things that ultimately destroy their young lives are left unmentioned, not only at school b

7 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Read my post again, I didn't mention in any way that the sex industry is totally driven by farang players.

 

Even if it is only 10% it's still wrong.  

Yet, you ONLY mentioned the evil farang!

And yes: it is wrong!

But in the case of women, who are "legal" it is a question of demand & supply, in the oldest business, there is!

9 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Troll.

I do not agree with you often and I would have used another word (like my posting rights, though!), but in this case: spot on!

It all boils down on the fundamental of education.

I do not think sex education is the solution for 10-14 year olds. At this age children need protection, which is first of all the responsibility of their families, as well as legal protection and legal education and enforcement. For 16 and over for sure, sex education is a must.

44 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Every Bar girl in Phuket

It's not only bargirls and it's not only Phuket. It's a national pastime!

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

There is of course also the problem that lots of Thai girls (nearly all of them?) think that having babies is just wonderful. It seems they see babies as kind of toys to play with. And many girls want babies but it seems they never thought about the cost and that it's a full time job to take care of them.

aahh details... you are such a party pooper!  What else are they expecting from life anyway? Do you really think they dream of colonizing space or curing cancer??!! They barely know that the Earth is round and that there is life outside Thailand (probably still think dragons exist from watching Game of Thrones).

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43 minutes ago, polkop11 said:

I do not think sex education is the solution for 10-14 year olds. At this age children need protection, which is first of all the responsibility of their families, as well as legal protection and legal education and enforcement. For 16 and over for sure, sex education is a must.

Sex education IS protection, and best provided by parents, not teachers - particularly here where educational standards generally are depressingly low. 

 

Our daughter is eleven, and we have tried to ensure she has enough knowledge to cope with whatever sexual conundrums she may be faced with as she matures.

 

We have also enrolled her for Taekwondo classes, to which she has taken like a duck to water, winning medals for her ability to floor a would-be aggressor with a kick or punch.

 

No prizes for guessing what part of the male anatomy dad has advised her to target with her flying feet should the need, Heaven forbid, ever arise!

6 hours ago, faraday said:

How are access to condoms here limited, they're available very easily?

if one has cash in the pocket and a convenience store without prying eyes nearby, then, easily available.

I refuse to waste my time reading that article ,but I bet ''awareness and education'' are used more than once..Shagadilic and shagalishous,not so much

7 hours ago, webfact said:

With access to condoms and morning-after pills still limited in Thailand

 

Condoms are sold in every 7-11 in Thailand. How is that limited?

2 hours ago, Vacuum said:

Not if the boy is 14.

Under Thai law, both the boy and girl can be charged with statutory rape!!

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

it's a full time job to take care of them.

 

Yes, but rarely for them. In Thailand, that's what grandparents are for.

6 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Since 2,600 girls became pregnant  between the ages of 10 - 14...does that mean 2,600 Thai men...fathers, uncles, brothers, cousins and neighbors were incarcerated?

It seems unlikely that these pregnancies were ALL statutory rapes, whether of incest or otherwise.

 

It also seems unlikely there'd be so many 'laughing'  reactions to the above post, if the impact upon the lives of these girls was seriously and compassionately considered.

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

There is of course also the problem that lots of Thai girls (nearly all of them?) think that having babies is just wonderful. It seems they see babies as kind of toys to play with. And many girls want babies but it seems they never thought about the cost and that it's a full time job to take care of them.

I think you will find that most females around the world want to have babies not only Thai girls, they have a biological drive to reproduce, nature’s way of making sure the population continues

8 hours ago, webfact said:

With access to condoms and morning-after pills still limited in Thailand, students are increasingly having unprotected sex

What?? In the 21st Century?

 

Amazing Thailand, stuck in a time warp.

5 hours ago, HLover said:

Yes, the taxpayers should pay for teens that spread their legs without a thought of the consequences. 

Brilliant.

 

That's what happens in western countries.  So don't be so rude and self-wise ????

6 minutes ago, HalfLight said:

What?? In the 21st Century?

 

Amazing Thailand, stuck in a time warp.

Surely you haven't just worked that out?

My observation would be that most if not all the girls from 10 to 14 who had babies, were made pregnant by some Thai guy. If not it was from sicko farang, either way, too young for sure.

I have met Thai women who were raped at young ages, and it was mostly from one of their relatives. Most of these women were not working in the sex industry, but back home in their villages, as single moms.

Geezer

6 hours ago, Lungstib said:

Sex education, along with road safety education, are two giant holes in Thailands education system. The very things that ultimately destroy their young lives are left unmentioned, not only at school but also at home. What is it that leaves teachers and parents unable or unwilling to prepare their kids for real life? It baffles me.

 

And add to that, sufficiently good english classes, world history and world geography. Plus math and science. 

17 minutes ago, StevieAus said:

I think you will find that most females around the world want to have babies not only Thai girls, they have a biological drive to reproduce, nature’s way of making sure the population continues

Only the sexual drive of BOTH males and females is needed; as pregnancies result, if not prevented or terminated, this postulation of "nature's way" curiously omits the male 'imperatives' toward copulation. 

 

5 hours ago, fullcave said:

Need to the teach them some parenting skills! They don't have any here. TIT

youll need to teach the grandparents too then

1 hour ago, max2u said:

It seems unlikely that these pregnancies were ALL statutory rapes, whether of incest or otherwise.

 

It also seems unlikely there'd be so many 'laughing'  reactions to the above post, if the impact upon the lives of these girls was seriously and compassionately considered.

Between 10 and 14 (the post you replied to) is 100% statutory rape even under Thai law.  The fact is that very few are prosecuted which is down to the parents mostly.

"With access to condoms and morning-after pills still limited in Thailand"

Morning after pill available in every pharmacy

15 minutes ago, HHTel said:

Between 10 and 14 (the post you replied to) is 100% statutory rape even under Thai law.  The fact is that very few are prosecuted which is down to the parents mostly.

I see you're correct by the law; the exemptions for minor-minor copulation in a number of nations are not present in Thailand. 

Pornpan Thongtanongsak, who runs the online “Love Care Station” advice chatroom, noted that children and youths ages six to 24 had legal access to health and disease-prevention services under the Act for Prevention and Solution of the Adolescent Pregnancy Problem (2016). They can get condoms, “emergency pills” and advice on protection from STDs and premature pregnancy, she said.

I think 6 year old is a bit Young Even for Thailand

2 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Surely you haven't just worked that out?

No, not really, I noticedsome years ago that Thai TV seems to be similar to UK or USA TV 60 years ago, together with frilly costumes and weird noises made with a ruler on a desk somewhare.

 

Sems to be more widespread than I thought though...

 

 

 

9 hours ago, smedly said:

that is shocking 

 

and who else was involved - perhaps that is exactly were the problem actually is

they never publish the age of the father do they...hmmm...cause most likely there have been multiple partners, a much older male, rape, incest etc. ..so the young females' age is revealed suggesting she has been promiscuous, when in fact it could be the opposite...and then there are the others who have abortions and those who never report the birth...what's the point in showing a picture of a young female with a PregTest in her hand..a bit too late for that methinks.

Just now, tandor said:

they never publish the age of the father do they...hmmm...cause most likely there have been multiple partners, a much older male, rape, incest etc. ..so the young females' age is revealed suggesting she has been promiscuous, when in fact it could be the opposite...and then there are the others who have abortions and those who never report the birth...what's the point in showing a picture of a young female with a PregTest in her hand..a bit too late for that methinks.

It is tough to get his name or identity from the posterior view (as he runs for the fertile rice fields of yonder) scurrying away.

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10 hours ago, faraday said:

How are access to condoms here limited, they're available very easily?

To try to get Thai kids to use condoms to pretty futile.  That would show a sense of responsibility extensively lacking in Thailand. The figure quoted is also just for the ones reported and doesn't include those babies who are killed at birth or aborted.  In the rural areas there are many things that are kept behind closed doors.

 

The bigger problem is that men and boys find it easy to force themselves on the vulnerable girls because it is also easy to avoid the consequences of their actions.  So many things are covered up by families and often the boy (if it is a boy) simply moves away to stay with relatives elsewhere.

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