Do you believe in God and why

[metisdead]

A troll post offering nothing of value to the discussion and a reply has been removed.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

4 hours ago, save the frogs said:

yeah, for some people he is a great teacher.

and some people think he's evil and the type of manipulative deceitful guru i mentioned in past posts.

 

there are many interesting comments about Osho on this Quora thread.

https://www.quora.com/Was-Osho-a-fraud-How-much-of-what-he-says-is-relevant

 

have fun, kids!

They became famous in Australia in the 80's when attempting to set up an ashram in Western Australia. There was pushback from the community and the spokesperson for them seen below called locals stupid, idiotic, prune faces and fruitcakes. She was interviewed about local concerns and she said 'What can I say. Tough titties'. Caused amusement for a time and proabably drew a line in the sand of feeling that that sort of supposed mysticism was not to be taken seriously. She then went to jail for a different issue. But mention Rajneesh and the orange people and  people in Australia think of 

 

[Hummin]

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

yeah, for some people he is a great teacher.

and some people think he's evil and the type of manipulative deceitful guru i mentioned in past posts.

 

there are many interesting comments about Osho on this Quora thread.

https://www.quora.com/Was-Osho-a-fraud-How-much-of-what-he-says-is-relevant

 

have fun, kids!

The master of simplicity!

 

Another great mind ending up being an funny character cultivated by his followers.

 

Another Jesus type in another time.

[digger70]

No, My dear mother always said that one can't believe in things that one can't see, and only believe halve of what one can see. 

[Tippaporn]

2 hours ago, metisdead said:

A troll post offering nothing of value to the discussion and a reply has been removed.

I hope it wasn't me!!!    I'm no troll though I may look like one in real life. 

[mikebike]

On 3/4/2023 at 3:41 PM, Tippaporn said:

How about this one.  Two objects cannot occupy the same space.  Not a Law?  I'll tell ya what.  You try placing two steel objects, preferably hardened, in line with each other in a 600 ton press and forcing them to occupy the same space.  See what happens.  Oh, and here's an important tip.  Make sure you're standing right in front of the press.  I'd hate for you to miss the fireworks.

Some advice for ya.  Better to think before you expose yourself with some cutesy quip.

I'd take your advise but I have absolutely no idea what you are on about. Defining the terms used in a debate is just standard procedure. The only one typing useless quips would be you. Or is it just that you are at a loss to define your usage of "laws" in the context of this discussion? 

[mikebike]

On 3/4/2023 at 3:44 PM, Tippaporn said:

Lemme see.  After 300+ years of science the only consensus amongst scientists regarding consciousness is that it exists.  And you want me to learn from these knuckleheads?

How about you share some of your wisdom with us?  Or aren't you an expert?

No, I am not a philosophy PhD, but I do understand that greater minds than yours or mine have pondered deeply the entirety of the human condition and only a fool would not endeavour to understand what has come before them, and only a total fool would call them "knuckleheads".

[mikebike]

On 3/4/2023 at 3:44 PM, Tippaporn said:

After 300+ years of science

This is even funnier since philosophy has been a discipline for well over 2000 years. 

[mikebike]

On 3/4/2023 at 3:49 PM, Tippaporn said:

Are the mind and brain identical?  That is one of the dumbest questions you could ask.  If you can't tell the difference you've have no business lecturing about it.  But I'm sure you're all ears, Mike.  Good for you.  Learn anything?  Come on, share it with us.

Again you reveal yourself. There are no dumb questions, only people who think they know it all... 

[Tippaporn]

18 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

I hope it wasn't me!!!    I'm no troll though I may look like one in real life. 

Just to assure everyone, I do wear underwear while posting. 

[Tippaporn]

8 minutes ago, mikebike said:

Again you reveal yourself. There are no dumb questions, only people who think they know it all... 

Can a man get pregnant?  Yeah, there are dumb questions.

I just informed everyone that I do wear underwear while posting, at a minimum.  Thus I am not entirely revealed.  And I doubt anyone here wants that I reveal myself completely.

[Sunmaster]

17 minutes ago, mikebike said:

greater minds than yours or mine have pondered deeply the entirety of the human condition and only a fool would not endeavour to understand what has come before them, and only a total fool would call them "knuckleheads".

Excellent. 
Still, there are fools who outright dismiss the wisdom handed down for 1000s of years and call it mumbo jumbo. 
The irony....

[Hummin]

5 minutes ago, Sunmaster said:

Excellent. 
Still, there are fools who outright dismiss the wisdom handed down for 1000s of years and call it mumbo jumbo. 
The irony....

Even it is 1000's  of years, doesnt automatically make them right ????

 

The problem is to define your searches before yourselves get polluted and jump on the wagon where you continuously create new and alternative fake realities and do not realize how far from your pureness you have come. 

 

Our minds needs the continuous growth to keep it interesting, and stagnation is not part of our nature.

 

Find the pure orign, stay with it, instead of the materialistic hunger for more, and  it becomes toxic. 

 

 

[Sunmaster]

34 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Even it is 1000's  of years, doesnt automatically make them right ????

 

The problem is to define your searches before yourselves get polluted and jump on the wagon where you continuously create new and alternative fake realities and do not realize how far from your pureness you have come. 

 

Our minds needs the continuous growth to keep it interesting, and stagnation is not part of our nature.

 

Find the pure orign, stay with it, instead of the materialistic hunger for more, and  it becomes toxic. 

 

 

That's true. 
Validation of any such source is a subjective process and we have to do it by ourselves. At a certain point though, you have to learn to trust your inner voice. You can't wait until something or someone validates reality for you, or you will soon find yourself on your deathbed wondering why you wasted all that time.

I've spent the last 25 years studying all kinds of sources, separating the weed from the chaff (from my point of view) and trying to find a common denominator. A common ground that is free of cultural distortions, empty rituals and oppressing dogma.

I think I found it. It sounds right and true for me and that's all that matters. 
Some may agree, others don't....such is life. No problem.

Edited March 14, 2023 by Sunmaster

[Hummin]

5 minutes ago, Sunmaster said:

That's true. 
Validation of any such source is a subjective process and we have to do it by ourselves. At a certain point though, you have to learn to trust your inner voice. You can't wait until something or someone validates reality for you, or you will soon find yourself on your deathbed wondering why you wasted all that time.

Im more afraid not being here for those I care for, right here right now.

 

Everything is not just about us, or I, me, my, mine, it is also about we, us ,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Through others you can find your true self, or true experiences 

[Sunmaster]

Just now, Hummin said:

Im more afraid not being here for those I care for, right here right now.

 

I had the same exact thought a few days ago. My mother in law is at the hospital and in pretty bad shape. My wife is doing what she can to help her and the rest of the family out. 
So I was thinking about my own mortality and death. I thought that I too could die any time. I have no regrets and I'm not afraid of dying. The only thing that would hold me back are my wife who needs my support now more than ever, and my parents who are old and will need me soon as well.

 

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, Sunmaster said:

I had the same exact thought a few days ago. My mother in law is at the hospital and in pretty bad shape. My wife is doing what she can to help her and the rest of the family out. 
So I was thinking about my own mortality and death. I thought that I too could die any time. I have no regrets and I'm not afraid of dying. The only thing that would hold me back are my wife who needs my support now more than ever, and my parents who are old and will need me soon as well.

 

Not afraid of dying, just afraid of not being there when I can. 

 

Today walking through the train station in opposite direction of those heading for work, I look at their faces, their body language, and their automatic walk to their destination. This is people of all ages, all kinds of profession, and genders, but so much alike. Im so blessed to be able to jump off the wagon before it was to late.

[Sunmaster]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Not afraid of dying, just afraid of not being there when I can. 

 

Today walking through the train station in opposite direction of those heading for work, I look at their faces, their body language, and their automatic walk to their destination. This is people of all ages, all kinds of profession, and genders, but so much alike. Im so blessed to be able to jump off the wagon before it was to late.

Be careful, people might think you're part of some cult! ????

[Hummin]

8 minutes ago, Sunmaster said:

Be careful, people might think you're part of some cult! ????

I am part of a endless movement, riding a round small bullit in  space at tremendous speeds, and nobody knows when the journey ends, we are just passengers without control

Edited March 14, 2023 by Hummin

[save the frogs]

2 hours ago, Sunmaster said:

Still, there are fools who outright dismiss the wisdom handed down for 1000s of years and call it mumbo jumbo. 

i haven't dismissed everything you've said. i haven't read most of it.

i pointed out that ONE of tipaporn's comments was bs. 

and i still think it is, 1000 years of wisdom handed down notwithstanding.

 

but you've confirmed what i thought.

you said you've been researching this stuff for 25 years.

so this isn't a normal thread.

you're basically "an authority figure" on this thread.

from my life experience, challenging an authority figure is never a pleasant experience. 

and I don't feel like playing that game.

 

[Sunmaster]

27 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

i haven't dismissed everything you've said. i haven't read most of it.

i pointed out that ONE of tipaporn's comments was bs. 

and i still think it is, 1000 years of wisdom handed down notwithstanding.

 

but you've confirmed what i thought.

you said you've been researching this stuff for 25 years.

so this isn't a normal thread.

you're basically "an authority figure" on this thread.

from my life experience, challenging an authority figure is never a pleasant experience. 

and I don't feel like playing that game.

 

Wow...guru...authority figure.... If you don't stop my ego will inflate to dangerous proportions. ???? 

Seriously though, the mumbo jumbo comment was meant to be in general. You're not the first to use that term, nor will you be the last.
"from my life experience, challenging an authority figure is never a pleasant experience"
This is true in every field. If I talked to an engineer and challenged him about his knowledge of construction, I would find it very hard to convince him that a (real) bridge can be build using toothpicks. He might teach me the fundamentals of engineering and I could then learn how to build a proper bridge. To do that I would have to dismiss old ideas and adopt new ones. 

The feeling of unpleasantness comes from a resistance to change. Not that I want you to change of course. God forbid. We all change at our own pace, but change is inevitable. Resisting it just makes our lives miserable.

So, what games DO you like to play?

 

Edited March 14, 2023 by Sunmaster

[Tippaporn]

24 minutes ago, Sunmaster said:

Be careful, people might think you're part of some cult! ????

Well, it's hard to miss ya, Sunmaster, when you look like Jesus' twin brother.

Nice smile, BTW.  Very comforting.  And such wisdom in your eyes.  I know the guy on the left used to be in a wheelchair.  I saw him last time.  Just a touch is all it takes!!  You're awesome, Sunmaster!!

[Sunmaster]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

I don't feel like playing that game.

 

You're already hooked. You just don't know it yet.

Resistance is futile! 

[save the frogs]

ok. game on.

 

there's literally a preacher out of sedona, arizona that looks exactly like jesus.

can't remember his name. i'll try to dig him up.

 

i have a funny story. my high school friend came to me one day and said he was "saved". so i went to his group's bible study.

they tried to save me, but i was asking way too many questions and playing devil's advocate.

they gave up and kicked me out of the bible study group.

ha ha.

 

[Dazkkk]

God no! But I do enjoy Christmas with my little son. ????

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/13/2023 at 7:53 PM, quake said:

Should we start a Go-Fund me, page for Thaibeachloveres. 

 

 

No need. I got a letter from a solicitor in Nigeria telling me how I can claim 15 million $. I'll be moving into a mansion with hot and cold running women soon.

All my prayers have been answered.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Can a man get pregnant?  Yeah, there are dumb questions.

I just informed everyone that I do wear underwear while posting, at a minimum.  Thus I am not entirely revealed.  And I doubt anyone here wants that I reveal myself completely.

A man can be pregnant! A foetus only requires a blood supply to survive, and IMO an implanted foetus could get such from something in a man's abdomen.

I'm not saying that it would last the entire 9 months or that it would be a viable person after it was surgically delivered.

Happens to women when they have ectopic pregnancies.

 

The world is so insane now that it will be no surprise to me if some man did actually try.

[thaibeachlovers]

To return to the subject of karma. I'm having second thoughts as two people that were making my life miserable just got evicted by going too far. Could be karma, or could be that God saw my misery and made it happen, or it could just be life as it happens.

Whatever, the sky is bluer that it was yesterday, the sun shines brighter, and no doubt the sunset will be spectacular.

 

Happy days.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, save the frogs said:

there's literally a preacher out of sedona, arizona that looks exactly like jesus.

That must be a miracle as I doubt anyone now actually knows what Jesus looked like.

I suspect you are referring to the Euro version pictures.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, save the frogs said:

ok. game on.

 

there's literally a preacher out of sedona, arizona that looks exactly like jesus.

can't remember his name. i'll try to dig him up.

 

i have a funny story. my high school friend came to me one day and said he was "saved". so i went to his group's bible study.

they tried to save me, but i was asking way too many questions and playing devil's advocate.

they gave up and kicked me out of the bible study group.

ha ha.

 

I had a similar experience with one of those guys that hangs around in public places trying to convert the heathens. Ended with him saying I was going to hell!