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"Big Brother" Thailand ranks 6th in world for health services - beats Spain and France

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15 minutes ago, fitzcaraldo said:

my neighbour a lovely girl of 1 m88 with a deep voice and who never wear bra or underwear , told me doctor sen is the best for boobs toot lips and sex change , for 25000 € your a new girl, and i agree as she does not wear underwear once she gave me a quick view of a lovely slit

I'm 1 m 88 with a deep voice. Should I be worried?

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The best thing you can do is to avoid any hospitals in the world if you can, especially in Thailand.

I was misdiagnosed at Samitivej Sukhumvit in Bangkok, many years ago, one of their "famous" urologists was sure I only had an infection in my testicle and did not even recommend doing an ultrasound. Instead he gave me a bag full of pills and asked me to report back in 14 days. 
I was not getting any better and had lost weight, I knew something was wrong, so I took a plane back to Norway and did the ultrasound (free health care in Norway) .
I had testis cancer Stage 1 and was on the operating table a week later.  They removed one of my balls and I also had to to radiation for 10 days. The doctor told me I was lucky to get there early , it could have advanced to stage 2 and I would be in trouble. I am 100% healthy today and sex life is great. 
 

So don't trust any so called specialists in Thailand, many of them don't know what they're talking about, even inside expensive, private hospitals! 

 

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2 hours ago, Almer said:

Has anybody else noted the height weight BP figures never find there way onto your profile  a BP reading of 159/90 was classed as normal !!!!! <deleted>

I usually go to a private hospital and they write down my blood pressure went in one day and it was high told me to go sit down a little later the nurse came over to recheck it and it was ok I'll go to the village doctor on weekends to get it checked and she seems to be concerned about it she'll ask questions about my general health then won't charge me says she's not busy and didn't take long. My doctor in the US $90.00 for the 10 to 15 min that the nurse takes

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6 hours ago, Trentham said:

I have posted this in an earlier forum on medical treatment....................

 

I do not want to sound alarmist but be very careful. Ten years ago I went to Bumrungrad for a simple headache that had been around for a few days. I was sent to a neurologist who diagnosed early onset Alzheimer's and sent me for an MRI at a cost of 30,000 baht. In addition he prescribed several drugs - Stilnox, Tranxeme which is used to treat anxiety, acute alcohol withdrawal, and seizures and a number of other drugs that I cannot remember which were extremely expensive. Obviously it was not Alzheimer's because I am able to write this story. 

 

I also had laser surgery on my eyes at Bumrungrad for acute angle glaucoma about 6 years ago. Upon returning home to Australia I was told by an eye specialist that the surgeon had done the operation the easy way, into the lower hemisphere of my eyes instead of the upper and therefore I now suffer with glare very badly. I then had to attend the hospital for checks - at first weekly, then monthly for a long time and finally every 3 months. That too was very expensive 3000 baht per visit.My Australian doctor told me that was a blatant rip-off because once laser surgery is performed no more than one check-up is necessary. A second eye specialist has since told me that I have never had glaucoma at all. 

 

In addition, I once had very bad shoulder pain and went to BNH Hospital and was put onto a neck stretching machine every day for a month at several thousand baht each day. It was diagnosed as a pinched nerve in my neck. They tried to talk me into an operation on my neck costing  300,000 baht. Thank God I declined. I subsequently found out, upon another trip home that it was indeed an injured rotator cuff in my shoulder.

 

One time I was staying at Khao Luk and wanted to extend for 2 days. Air Asia would not allow me to change my ticket without a medical certificate. So, fit as a fiddle I went to the local hospital and told the doc I had a bad virus in my throat and a head cold. She examined me and told me I had acute pharyngitis. There was nothing wrong with me.

 

Also at BNH I had been treated for reflux for many months and in spite of presenting myself at the hospital at 1 or 2 AM several times with extreme pain in my abdomen nothing was ever done apart from giving me reflux pills and once, a pill to push up my rear for constipation which I did not have. In 2010 I returned home and went to my doctor for some reflux pills and he refused them and sent me for a CAT scan. It was cancer in my pancreas and I was immediately operated on and I am one of the 3% who survive that disease.

 

I can relate other less dramatic stories that have happened to me and also friends of mine in Thailand. It seems to me that medicine in Thailand is not a health service but an industry devoted to making money.

 

I do not doubt that Thailand has some good doctors but Bumrungrad in particular seems to be only interested in making money. PLEASE BE CAREFUL.

 

 

 

 

I don't know about laser surgery for cataracts but I had the surgery for vision correction in the US had to go back the next day so they could check it than a week later than 1 month after that I was done this was all inçluded in the bill

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Some years ago I went to our Thai Public hospital with severe stomach pains, the Dr examined me and said 'appendicitis' and told the nurse to prepare me for immediate surgery. My wife, a nurse, was not happy and insisted on an MRT before surgery. There was nothing wrong with my appendix, but an intestinal infection!

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I've had both good and poor health care in Thailand and Japan.  The difference is that in Japan it costs me 10% of the list price and I get expert care at Tokyo University Hospital.  In Thailand, I switched from Bumrungrad to St. Louis because of the tremendous difference in price and also because the staff at Bumrungrad have become short-tempered.  Last year, the nurse and doctor at Bumrungrad were furious that I included both medicines and supplements in the list of medicines that I was taking.  The revelation came for me when I refilled my prescription of Stilnox (Zolpidem) at St. Louis and was charged 23 baht per tablet instead of the 77 baht per tablet that I was charged at Bumrungrad.  Years ago, Bumrungrad used to be a reasonable and pleasant place.  Now the service is brusque and the overcharging is awful.

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Saved my life they did. Courteously, professionally, reasonably priced.

 

my Doc at Duke Wealth, oops I mean Health were very pleased by the results.

 

I was at Samitvej Thonburi near Pho Nimit. And BNH

 

My cardiologists were Dr. Wasi Buddhari and Dr. Jiranut. Dr. Buddhari I hear is "the man" in heart circles.

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15 hours ago, emptypockets said:

How many languages do you think the doctors and nurse should speak? Considering that 99% of the patients they see are Thai native speakers.

Do you want them to speak English just for you?

Why not insist on Burmese, after all they are the biggest expat group in the country.

How about Chinese, Russian?

How much Thai do YOU speak and understand?

Europe is neither a country, and by some reports not very civilised either.

 

My wife had a detached retina repaired by a very, very good eye surgeon BKK. She went to an eye specialist while we were in Oz for a checkup. The Oz surgeon was very impressed by the work done.

 

Your post smacks of white superiority where you simply cannot accept that the white man is no longer revered and held in awestruck esteem by the natives wherever he deigns to go.

Fyi if he’s a proper doctor ( not a 2 years graduated doctor ) Especially if he’s studied abroad he should at least  have a good knowledge of English language and I demand that since I’m paying for the service and yes everybody knows that Europe is a continent not a country ???? Pretty much  everything else you said is just irrelevant, sounds like a Mr.Thrash supporter ???? please seek professional help dai Mai ? 

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On 9/10/2019 at 9:00 AM, Moo 2 said:

Are they referring to Public or Private Hospitals? Once in a while my wife has to go to the local

public hospital for checkup and get medicine. If she does not arrive before 8 am her chance of

getting out before 3 pm is quite remote. At 7.30 am she is normally out by mid-day.

Is that what they mean by being number 6 in the world?! Absolut joke!

Those waiting times are better than the U.K. 

 

If you’re out of A&E in the U.K. in 4.5 hours you’ve done well! 

 

Though to fudge the figures, a trainee will look at you for 5 seconds and tell you what it could be without any form of examination and then tell you to wait in the waiting area. This then is registered as you have been seen. 

 

The 10 hour wait you now have to see a proper doctor and a proper assessment isn’t recorded. 

 

Faced between a UK hospital and a decent Thai hospital I would take the latter every time. Especially anything cancer related. 

 

 

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53 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

All the doctors I have met spoke English. However, I don't understand why they should do. English is not even the most common language in this planet! 

It’s the most widely spoken - all pilots too have to be able to speak English for this reason. 

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14 hours ago, balo said:

The best thing you can do is to avoid any hospitals in the world if you can, especially in Thailand.

I was misdiagnosed at Samitivej Sukhumvit in Bangkok, many years ago, one of their "famous" urologists was sure I only had an infection in my testicle and did not even recommend doing an ultrasound. Instead he gave me a bag full of pills and asked me to report back in 14 days. 
I was not getting any better and had lost weight, I knew something was wrong, so I took a plane back to Norway and did the ultrasound (free health care in Norway) .
I had testis cancer Stage 1 and was on the operating table a week later.  They removed one of my balls and I also had to to radiation for 10 days. The doctor told me I was lucky to get there early , it could have advanced to stage 2 and I would be in trouble. I am 100% healthy today and sex life is great. 
 

So don't trust any so called specialists in Thailand, many of them don't know what they're talking about, even inside expensive, private hospitals! 

 

Which is why you should always get a second opinion - you have <deleted> doctors in ALL countries 

 

Look up Dr Harold Shipman - I don’t think Thailand has many of them! 

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On 9/10/2019 at 9:31 AM, JamesBlond said:

A lovely nurse once held my hand while I was having stitches put in. I call that good service.

 

 

I had a couple of Filipino nurses  do a whole lot better than that but modesty prevents my going into detail.

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On 9/10/2019 at 8:35 AM, Tayaout said:

One of the best in the world, I can believe. Better than France and Spain, nope. 

But... I know from experience that to get an MRI in France you can have to wait weeks if not month. Here if I get a insurance approval it is same day or 24/48 hours maximum. The main problem in Thailand is to find a competent doctor you can speak to, and who doesn't think he is a Thai Airways pilot.

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3 minutes ago, Momofarang said:

But... I know from experience that to get an MRI in France you can have to wait weeks if not month. Here if I get a insurance approval it is same day or 24/48 hours maximum. The main problem in Thailand is to find a competent doctor you can speak to, and who doesn't think he is a Thai Airways pilot.

I'm from Canada and you need to wait also. Unless you have insurance or money then you go to private clinic and there is no wait. I wanted to see a dermatologist and it was over a year wait. I went to a private clinic and got an appointment the same week. 

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On ‎9‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 3:33 AM, Trentham said:

It seems to me that medicine in Thailand is not a health service but an industry devoted to making money.

Sounds to me like they don't have a clue as to what they are doing. Your lucky you are still here to talk about it.

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