Pattaya is Dead - Lowest Foreigner Visits This Winter

[Songkran18]

After my second foray to Pattaya, the most noticeable "dead" matter still is the decrepit local Farangs.  

I'm not a Pattaya expert, yet I know and seen how territorial peeps are here, as the have nothing else to claim as their own. That explains why people are so immaturely snarky in this forum. Watching old blokes in Pattaya is more depressing than witnessing  a ping-pong show - so i heard. 

 

I have no doubt the Pattaya Farang is too self centered / concerned to analyze what's really happening.  

They (gov) want to clean the human waste holed in those cheap 700 TBT p/m  rat holes, and reclaim Pattaya for the Thai middle class. It's obvious <deleted> beyond being feeble minded and ruminating exchange rates and other paranoia.  The strength of the Baht will doom many. That's not a solitary argument. If you're more Algebraic, you'll see enforcing TM30 is a clear signal, and a truer variable  the kingdom want's to get rid of the scum.  I wish the Kingdom, success. 

 

Come at me ........    

 

 

 

 

[whitemouse]

21 minutes ago, Songkran18 said:

strength of the Baht will doom many. That's not a solitary argument. If you're more Algebraic, you'll see enforcing TM30 is a clear signal, and a truer variable  the kingdom want's to get rid of the scum.  I wish the Kingdom, success. 

 

Come at me ........    

 

I take it you don't like foreigners very much.

You do realise that Pattaya has no other economic driver than tourism industry. Take away the foreigners, and there is very little left.

[Songkran18]

1 hour ago, whitemouse said:

 

I take it you don't like foreigners very much.

You do realise that Pattaya has no other economic driver than tourism industry. Take away the foreigners, and there is very little left.

I appreciate the response, whitemouse. Very fair. I'm not Thai. I try as always, to put my mindset into local customs and governance wherever i travel. 

If I or you, or marginalized outsiders take a breath, we at first can realize this is ain't our country. I don't reside in Thailand, but when there i'm a guest. 

 

This forum ( pattaya )  has an awful reputation among the ex-pat community throughout  Thailand. Y'all know that.  

 

Pattaya is the nearest  beach resort to Bangkok and I think it fair that Pattaya be cleaned up and serve Thai people. 

 

I think the Kingdom can survive flushing out old poor nearly-dead  farangs with other  current characteristics of Pattaya. 

 

I do like foreigners, but I'm not the typical marginalized ex-pat bitch on this site. Nor i'm the 60+ old thinking I'm bad ass a bar girl placed a frigid towel on my neck. 

 

Without doubt, Thailand/Kingdom should do all within her means to clean-up Pattaya. and maybe raise and raze the joint.  

 

So who's spending money in Pattaya now. It's not the nearly dead anglo/kangaroo/ loser bracket  ex-pat. It's Gupta spiting a bottle of soda water with three friends at a go-go. 

 

Pattaya has a wrecked beach, infrastructure and clientele. It needs to be revamped to serve Thai's and not the planet's degenerates  

 

Come at me ......... 

[Songkran18]

#makepattayagreatagain 

 

Observation:  Life's bottom tier ( bottom feeders)  seek free AC at malls. 

 

#comeatme ........  

[whitemouse]

Got it! It seems it is age of foreigners in Pattaya that bothers you. If foreigners in Pattaya were younger,  would you be ok with that? If so, what cut off age do you propose. Also, would you allow older foreigners remain in other provinces, or you opt for all out deportation? 

 

You said Pattaya shoukd be for Thais only how would you implement it,  would you set up check points around town, card all travellers, and filter out the foreigners?

 

You are suggesting a radical plan for Pattaya, but why? What is the issue that you are tackling, why are older foreigners in Pattaya bothering you so much? 

[kinyara]

ThaiVisa click bait is in overdrive in the Pattaya section of this forum

 

 

[whitemouse]

25 minutes ago, Songkran18 said:

 

 

Without doubt, Thailand/Kingdom should do all within her means to clean-up Pattaya. and maybe raise and raze the joint.  

 

So who's spending money in Pattaya now. It's not the nearly dead anglo/kangaroo/ loser bracket  ex-pat. It's Gupta spiting a bottle of soda water with three friends at a go-go. 

 

 

So not just older foreigners,  you would 'rise and raze' the town.  Why? I'm curious,  because  just got here few days ago, and plan to stay winter, or as long as visa is doable,  and I'm puzzled why you want to get rid of me, and level the whole town. The Base condo is quite new, would you raze it? I'm really trying to understand!

[emptypockets]

5 hours ago, Gumballl said:

In Thailand there are only two seasons: the hot season, and the hotter one.

 

So jeez, stuff it yourself. Tourist come from around the world, not just Thailand. Those in Europe, USA, China, Japan, AUS, and NZ.... you know, the places where money and tourists come from... do enjoy 4 seasons.

I come from northern Australia and we have two seasons, wet and dry. If you think Thailand is hot, go somewhere else more suited to you.

[emptypockets]

4 hours ago, Songkran18 said:

After my second foray to Pattaya, the most noticeable "dead" matter still is the decrepit local Farangs.  

I'm not a Pattaya expert, yet I know and seen how territorial peeps are here, as the have nothing else to claim as their own. That explains why people are so immaturely snarky in this forum. Watching old blokes in Pattaya is more depressing than witnessing  a ping-pong show - so i heard. 

 

I have no doubt the Pattaya Farang is too self centered / concerned to analyze what's really happening.  

They (gov) want to clean the human waste holed in those cheap 700 TBT p/m  rat holes, and reclaim Pattaya for the Thai middle class. It's obvious <deleted> beyond being feeble minded and ruminating exchange rates and other paranoia.  The strength of the Baht will doom many. That's not a solitary argument. If you're more Algebraic, you'll see enforcing TM30 is a clear signal, and a truer variable  the kingdom want's to get rid of the scum.  I wish the Kingdom, success. 

 

Come at me ........    

 

 

 

 

Totally agree..the Thaksin social experiment allowing old broke white men an indefinite stay in the kingdom was a good idea at the time. That time has now passed.

Nobody is getting thrown out as such but the rules are getting tightened and, over time, many will leave.

Notice how there have been no changes of note for the married guys? They are still welcome.

Thailand is not anti farang.

[jacko45k]

14 hours ago, champers said:

I am reliably informed that there is currently a big influx of visitors from Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia. They are all escaping from the smog at home.

Well it was exceptionally busy when I hit the bars on Wednesday night, maybe that explains it. Although looked mostly Western where I went. 

[topt]

12 hours ago, Songkran18 said:

Observation:  Life's bottom tier ( bottom feeders)  seek free AC at malls. 

So that's most of the Asian populace in cities where they have malls then. This was a "thing" over 20 years ago in The Philippines for example in Manila. Hardly limited to foreigners.............

 

I do commend you on excelling in probably using the most baiting words/phrases in a couple of posts and getting away with it.......... 

[Songkran18]

19 hours ago, whitemouse said:

So not just older foreigners,  you would 'rise and raze' the town.  Why? I'm curious,  because  just got here few days ago, and plan to stay winter, or as long as visa is doable,  and I'm puzzled why you want to get rid of me, and level the whole town. The Base condo is quite new, would you raze it? I'm really trying to understand!

I'm not suggesting ethnic cleansing. At the same time it's sad to witness a "weight station" of deplorable's.-economic refugees. i try to state that without offending - but it's obvious and almost everybody I assume came to algebraic realities. Not all, but many. 

 

As was suggested, I'm not in favor genocide. At the same time, many ex-pats from the Old World resent the new panoramas and  new racial compositions of their boyhood towns. Same applies to me. I grew up in Hollywood, CA. If you don't speak Armenian - you're <deleted> ! 

 

I'm not Thai. If i was and lived in Bangkok, I'd resent my nearest beach village/town is not an option to take my family. I believe that's the Thai perspective, and why they have some blokes are squirming about TM30 and health insurance proposals. The exchange rate will weed out some. Gentrification and what Government House is planning is another deal.  I believe I'm witnessing a squeeze play in the interest of the Thai people. It's their country. 

[kingofthemountain]

On 9/21/2019 at 11:14 PM, Songkran18 said:

After my second foray to Pattaya, the most noticeable "dead" matter still is the decrepit local Farangs.  

I'm not a Pattaya expert, yet I know and seen how territorial peeps are here, as the have nothing else to claim as their own. That explains why people are so immaturely snarky in this forum. Watching old blokes in Pattaya is more depressing than witnessing  a ping-pong show - so i heard. 

 

I have no doubt the Pattaya Farang is too self centered / concerned to analyze what's really happening.  

They (gov) want to clean the human waste holed in those cheap 700 TBT p/m  rat holes, and reclaim Pattaya for the Thai middle class. It's obvious <deleted> beyond being feeble minded and ruminating exchange rates and other paranoia.  The strength of the Baht will doom many. That's not a solitary argument. If you're more Algebraic, you'll see enforcing TM30 is a clear signal, and a truer variable  the kingdom want's to get rid of the scum.  I wish the Kingdom, success. 

 

Come at me ........    

 

 

 

 

Yes i come

first with a simple question

the city is ugly, she stink, the beach and the sea are dirty too, the traffic is crazy and

the air polluted, scams are at every corner and so on

then why do you exactly come here? And twice in addition!

A passion for the local gastronomy? The temples? ????

[RoadWarrior371]

7 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

Yes i come

first with a simple question

the city is ugly, she stink, the beach and the sea are dirty too, the traffic is crazy and

the air polluted, scams are at every corner and so on

then why do you exactly come here? And twice in addition!

A passion for the local gastronomy? The temples? ????

If you look closely at his post, he is attacking the down and out in Pattaya, acting on some sort of inferiority complex.  Likely he is very lower middle class in the US, and has been brushed aside in the west. ????

[chakatee]

On 9/12/2019 at 12:06 PM, PingRoundTheWorld said:

What cheap prices? Bar fines at gogo's 1500

For sure the n.1 concern for every tourist 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎9‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 1:11 PM, leggo said:

 who'd want to go there anyway, except for fat men who couldn't get laid anywhere else! thirty years ago it was okish , ten years ago it was a <deleted>hole and the last time I was there at a language school I swore I'd never go back and have kept my promise!

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing wrong with having somewhere fat men can get laid- are they not allowed to have a happy ending?

However, anyone going to Pattaya for anything else except golf must not have read any of the millions of reviews about the place.

It's always been a <deleted> <deleted> since at least the 90s, the beach is awful, the people that run it are incompetent beyond anything elsewhere, IMO, and why anyone that doesn't like bars, girls and nightlife would go there is a mystery to me.

 

Me, I loved it there. No bagpackers, families or PC <deleted> to be seen. The ultimate big boy playground.

Edited September 23, 2019 by thaibeachlovers

[Leaver]

On 9/23/2019 at 10:54 AM, chakatee said:

For sure the n.1 concern for every tourist 

Whilst I know your post is sarcastic, do you deny it was the sex trade that initially created Pattaya?

[shdmn]

On 9/22/2019 at 7:10 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Nothing wrong with having somewhere fat men can get laid- are they not allowed to have a happy ending?

However, anyone going to Pattaya for anything else except golf must not have read any of the millions of reviews about the place.

It's always been a <deleted> <deleted> since at least the 90s, the beach is awful, the people that run it are incompetent beyond anything elsewhere, IMO, and why anyone that doesn't like bars, girls and nightlife would go there is a mystery to me.

 

Me, I loved it there. No bagpackers, families or PC <deleted> to be seen. The ultimate big boy playground.

This is a popular opinion among people who probably wish they were here and want to think it sucks so they don't feel like they are missing out.   I think it's better than ever (including the much improved beach) and I hope more people have the opinion as above because this is the best low season ever for me. I don't mind the chinese or Indians because they are off doing their own things.  There are still lots of punters around too considering it's low season.

 

Yes the beach is awful and everything here sucks.  Please do not come back.

Edited September 24, 2019 by shdmn

[Leaver]

21 hours ago, shdmn said:

This is a popular opinion among people who probably wish they were here and want to think it sucks so they don't feel like they are missing out.   I think it's better than ever (including the much improved beach) and I hope more people have the opinion as above because this is the best low season ever for me. I don't mind the chinese or Indians because they are off doing their own things.  There are still lots of punters around too considering it's low season.

 

Yes the beach is awful and everything here sucks.  Please do not come back.

I'm not seeing the punter numbers you describe, and it's hard to come back, when you never came here in the first place.  ????

[shdmn]

25 minutes ago, Leaver said:

...it's hard to come back, when you never came here in the first place.  ????

Edited September 25, 2019 by shdmn

[Leaver]

2 minutes ago, shdmn said:

??? ????

Thailand / Pattaya used to have a huge market share of the western tourist market in the region.  They are losing that dominant market share, and rapidly.

 

As we know, Thailand has many repeat visitors, but if you do not get the tourist to Thailand for their first visit, how can they be a repeat visitor?

 

So, if a tourists goes to Vietnam for a holiday, for example, and has a great time, they will probably just go back to Vietnam. 

 

In the past, Thailand didn't really have any competition, but that has changed, and they need to compete, because nearby country are doing it bigger, and better, for cheaper. 

[Leaver]

On 9/22/2019 at 5:33 AM, whitemouse said:

The Base condo is quite new,

Don't you mean The Base Hotel?  ????

[fhickson]

On 9/24/2019 at 11:35 AM, shdmn said:

This is a popular opinion among people who probably wish they were here and want to think it sucks so they don't feel like they are missing out.   I think it's better than ever (including the much improved beach) and I hope more people have the opinion as above because this is the best low season ever for me. I don't mind the chinese or Indians because they are off doing their own things.  There are still lots of punters around too considering it's low season.

 

Yes the beach is awful and everything here sucks.  Please do not come back.

righto.

 

the less tourists that arrive the more i enjoy it.

 

people keep posting bs about tourist numbers. who cares? the less that arrive the more chance i have to enjoy what the city has to offer, not the other way around!

[brokenbone]

8 minutes ago, fhickson said:

righto.

 

the less tourists that arrive the more i enjoy it.

 

people keep posting bs about tourist numbers. who cares? the less that arrive the more chance i have to enjoy what the city has to offer, not the other way around!

i for one would go out more day & evening if it wasnt for the eternal traffic jam

[Olmate]

24 minutes ago, fhickson said:

righto.

 

the less tourists that arrive the more i enjoy it.

 

people keep posting bs about tourist numbers. who cares? the less that arrive the more chance i have to enjoy what the city has to offer, not the other way around!

Keep with that scenario and there will be nothing left to see. The city needs to be thriving not bankrupt!

[fhickson]

2 hours ago, Olmate said:

Keep with that scenario and there will be nothing left to see. The city needs to be thriving not bankrupt!

making it thrive is a thai country matter, not something im going to worry about as an expat or tourist. im just a guest here.

 

it sucks if people suffer financially but i dont think whats there is going anywhere. where is it going to move, hua hin?

Edited September 26, 2019 by fhickson

[Isaanbiker]

 

         I've learned useful lessons when Pattaya was still a nice place to visit. 500 baht for 24 hours with a beauty, plus a few baht bar fine was dirt cheap.

 

   But that was more than 20 years ago and this place has nothing more in common with what it once was.   

 

 I've stopped visiting Pattaya a long time ago, before I always loved a holiday there with daily changing companionship.

 

   RIP, Pattaya. 

[Isaanbiker]

12 hours ago, Leaver said:

Don't you mean The Base Hotel?  ????

Perhaps the "Base Jump Hotel without parachute?"

[Leaver]

12 hours ago, fhickson said:

where is it going to move, hua hin?

Pattaya isn't going to move anywhere.  Pattaya will always be here, but it will change, has changed, and will continue to change. 

 

Eventually, Pattaya will not be the Pattaya that we knew in the past, and the Pattaya that we know today. 

 

As I have said before, check out the Cambodia Forum and see how the Chinese changed Sihanoukville.  Granted, it's an extreme example, and whilst there will not be casinos here anytime soon, Pattaya will change to cater for the new demographic of tourists.

[JayBird]

Pattaya isn't going to move anywhere.  Pattaya will always be here, but it will change, has changed, and will continue to change. 
 
Eventually, Pattaya will not be the Pattaya that we knew in the past, and the Pattaya that we know today. 
 
As I have said before, check out the Cambodia Forum and see how the Chinese changed Sihanoukville.  Granted, it's an extreme example, and whilst there will not be casinos here anytime soon, Pattaya will change to cater for the new demographic of tourists.

More Indian restaurants?