33 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Can you go one post where you criticize the current government but don't reference previous ones? 

 

It's very ugly and disingenuous. 

No i can't because i see them all as evil and corrupt, the only one i make an exception for is future forward. The rest are all the same and i see them do all the same tricks. Its scary that people don't notice it.

54 minutes ago, robblok said:

Your 100% right no shame only standing by his guy pretending all is right as not to lose any more MP's and seats. Looks a lot like what i seen in the past on the other side. When one of them is guilty of something they seem to ignore all evidence and keep defending them till the bitter end no matter if proof is shown.

 

Disgusting how Thai politics work. 

Its nothing like the past. Past governments were elected fully by the people.

People could choose who they wanted to represent them. They could also vote them out.

 

This is really affecting the image of Thailand. 

Previously they could hide under the cover of preventing corruption and doing their best for the country.

But the corruption, more and more, is clear for the average person to see.

It's really sad for the respectable, respectful and tolerant Thai people. To have thugs and thieves representing them.

It's also sad for the foreigners that love or used to love Thailand. Maybe whom have lived or visited the place for a good portion of their lives and wouldn't hear a bad word said about the place.

 

 

Just now, Reigntax said:

Its nothing like the past. Past governments were elected fully by the people.

People could choose who they wanted to represent them. They could also vote them out.

 

They act exactly the same with the arrogance i see now, i saw back then. The faults i see now I see back then. They can never condemn one of their own or admit they are wrong. Its sickening. 

 

They can vote these clowns out just wait. But plenty of people also voted for these clowns. The only thing about this mob that is worse is that they are real hypocrites telling people not vote for the same bad people and then bring their own bad people in and not accepting any hard proof they are bad like in this case. Just sickening.

1 hour ago, BestB said:

What about his fake degrees?

He would say:

 

'but i'm important, so anything I do is OK and you should just let me do whatever I want, regardless of truth or morals and ethics because I'm important'.

 

Unfortunately so many folks like this and everywhere.

Any other country in the world you have a criminal record you are not allowed to run for parliament. The trouble with Pinocchio is he is running out of people to support him so needs all the help he  can get.

1 minute ago, a977 said:

Any other country in the world you have a criminal record you are not allowed to run for parliament.

Any evidence of this? "Not allowed" in what sense? I can see that a party would not endorse someone with a criminal record, but what about an independent candidate for parliament?

16 minutes ago, robblok said:

No i can't because i see them all as evil and corrupt, the only one i make an exception for is future forward. The rest are all the same and i see them do all the same tricks. Its scary that people don't notice it.

We know. Thailand right now, in my opinion, is at it's lowest point since I've travelled/lived here (2005).

 

But when you keep comparing the two, you're lessening the crimes and dishonesty that are happening right now. The bar is getting lower and lower everyday. What I'm inferring from your posts is basically a nonchalant, "it was also bad before, but what can do you?". This is disingenuous. 

 

 

You know something?

 

PM Prayut is a bigger fool than i gave him credit for

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1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

My wristwatch says "time to move on", and "nothing to see here".

 

The force is strong with this one. He must have a pedigreed lineage or powerful backers, or both.

 

 

Read the original Sydney morning herald post it high lights his "powerful backer"

Sadly with that backing no one can touch him  (well until if when/he falls from grace then i doubt you would every find him again)

quoting some more fake news from the SMH Newspaper link
""
Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha on Tuesday backed the minister, dismissing the revelations of a heroin trafficking conviction as a "small issue".
"" 
(let's just say that the drug runners were lucky not to be caught in Singapore where it says Death to Drug Traffickers on the immigration form.)

""
Drug trafficking convicts are barred from cabinet under the constitution, but the government’s top legal expert said in July Thammanat's case was an exception as it fell outside Thai jurisdiction.
""
(assume someone's interpretation prevails, surely the Dutch Police liaison officer in Bangkok will be interested in this.)

2 hours ago, rkidlad said:

So basically the PM is saying his lies sound believable. And if they sound believable, that’s okay. 

 

We know this man has been in prison for trying to smuggle heroin. We know he is lying. 

 

This is truly shameful behavior. 

Shameful, criminal more like it on the part of napoleon for justifying this criminals actions and outright lies - now fully exposed and proven beyond all doubt - - - but what else could you expect from a morally corrupt, self appointed  individual to the position of PM. 

4 hours ago, JamJar said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/ex-con-cabinet-minister-changes-story-over-sydney-jail-time-20190912-p52qow.html

 

 

That's the truth right there.... he was as guilty as sin!

18 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

We know. Thailand right now, in my opinion, is at it's lowest point since I've travelled/lived here (2005).

 

But when you keep comparing the two, you're lessening the crimes and dishonesty that are happening right now. The bar is getting lower and lower everyday. What I'm inferring from your posts is basically a nonchalant, "it was also bad before, but what can do you?". This is disingenuous. 

 

 

I don't see the crimes ass less, i see them equally bad. Maybe worse now as they got in with trickery. But i see exactly the same things i saw before. I was here around the same time maybe a little before you. 

 

I see exactly the same arrogance abuse of power and denying of facts. Its like nothing has changed but the faces. I just mention it because it just shows that nothing changes much in this country and without a viable good party there wont be any progress. 

 

By not mentioning how bad it was people seem to think that the PTP is a clean option and it certainly is not. They both employ thugs (Charlem / this drug minister), they both never seem to listen to proof from the other side no matter how clear it is. As long as they are in power they never ever take responsibility.

 

I can understand that Thais don't revolt, the alternative is crooked too. I only see future forward as a possible alternative but other then that this circle of violence and corruption will go on forever with only the faces and names changing but the behaviour is exactly the same.

 

Yes these crooks got in with trickery that is the worse part and the fact that the hypocrites in power now dare to make the comment about bad choices in the past while they are equally bad and do exactly the same corrupt arrogant things.

3 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

That's the truth right there.... he was as guilty as sin!

Yeah, but it doesn't matter as it had nothing to do with Thailand - so does this mean any non-Thai sentenced for drug offences outside of Thailand can enter Thailand freely if they wish to - seeing as the offence had nothing to do with Thailand?

It just never ends, does it? The constant kicking of law, order and decency in the face (not to mention the daily disdain for the entirety of the Thai people).

Sadly, it will just go on and on. It's like a playground bully: he will go on terrorising and making life hell for the oppressed until they develop the nerve and  guts to stand up for themselves. This is basic. We all learn this by the age of 10 at school.

 

The Thais, it seems, have not yet learned this lesson (and I am speaking about the MILLIONS of Thais - not just a little group of a few hundred thousand brave, brave souls). Or - they don't really care all that much about any of it. Not that much. 

 

So all of the criminality will go on and on (and just get worse) - until the Thais say: 'enough is enough'.

I've given up waiting. 

They won't say it. They have taken EVERYTHING the junta has poured all over  them over the past 5+ years. And every sign is that they will go on taking it all, and more. Sakdina (serfdom mentality) rules supreme.

 

Of course, I could be wrong - and sincerely hope that I am ...

 

 

10 minutes ago, robblok said:

I don't see the crimes ass less, i see them equally bad. Maybe worse now as they got in with trickery. But i see exactly the same things i saw before. I was here around the same time maybe a little before you. 

 

I see exactly the same arrogance abuse of power and denying of facts. Its like nothing has changed but the faces. I just mention it because it just shows that nothing changes much in this country and without a viable good party there wont be any progress. 

 

By not mentioning how bad it was people seem to think that the PTP is a clean option and it certainly is not. They both employ thugs (Charlem / this drug minister), they both never seem to listen to proof from the other side no matter how clear it is. As long as they are in power they never ever take responsibility.

 

I can understand that Thais don't revolt, the alternative is crooked too. I only see future forward as a possible alternative but other then that this circle of violence and corruption will go on forever with only the faces and names changing but the behaviour is exactly the same.

 

Yes these crooks got in with trickery that is the worse part and the fact that the hypocrites in power now dare to make the comment about bad choices in the past while they are equally bad and do exactly the same corrupt arrogant things.

These crimes are worse. They are held accountable to no one. That's very, very scary. 

I mentioned to my Suthep / Prayut / Bkk Shutdown supporting missis last night about when she used to hang off every word Suthep said about the "Rabob Thaksin" and how it was a system of crooks / mafia, nepotism, corruption, lies, incompetence etc etc.

 

I asked her how things have changed for her and if she feels "Happiness has been brought back to the people" and also if she feels that what she went out on to the streets to fight for was ultimately for the benefit of Thailand.

 

If looks could kill I'd be dead 20 times over!!! Anyway, enjoying morning coffee in smugness and peace. ????

8 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

These crimes are worse. They are held accountable to no one. That's very, very scary. 

Yes the scary part is too that this mob has the judiciary in their pocket. 100% agree. 

 

Crimes are not worse.. its worse that they probably get away with it.

They just reported that Thamanat’s - or whatever that fake’s real name is - that his PHD is fake as well - bought from an online “university”. Hahaha this guys life is one big fake <deleted> up but apparently still good enough to be a minister in this fake government!



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2 minutes ago, robblok said:

Yes the scary part is too that this mob has the judiciary in their pocket. 100% agree. 

 

Crimes are not worse.. its worse that they probably get away with it.

That makes no sense. But hey, you can't just write anti-Thaksin posts all the time. People see through that. Need to appear to be balanced while at the same time really just digging up old stuff to to make the current government seem not so bad.

 

Good job. 

I totally understand their logic in dismissing the event. It happened in Australia and Australia made a mistake. The criminal justice system there is not nearly as sophisticated as it is in Thailand. Remember they caught the koh tao killers and are pursuing people like the red bull heir. There hands are full and their accomplishment s many... 

3 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

That makes no sense. But hey, you can't just write anti-Thaksin posts all the time. People see through that. Need to appear to be balanced while at the same time really just digging up old stuff to to make the current government seem not so bad.

 

Good job. 

The current government is bad no question about it.. worse as they probably get away with it. But acting like it was so much better more lawful back then is crazy. Sorry just I don't agree with that image you and others try to create. Those in power are always arrogant, abuse their power and corrupt. I have not seen that change seen it then see it now. Only worse things are that this mob got in by trickery and has the judiciary in its power and is hypocrite. 

 

Sorry if i disturb your fantasy.

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

The current government is bad no question about it.. worse as they probably get away with it. But acting like it was so much better more lawful back then is crazy. Sorry just I don't agree with that image you and others try to create. Those in power are always arrogant, abuse their power and corrupt. I have not seen that change seen it then see it now. Only worse things are that this mob got in by trickery and has the judiciary in its power and is hypocrite. 

 

Sorry if i disturb your fantasy.

So stick to the point at hand. Stop talking about what went before. There should only be one emphasis. That emphasis should be on all the illegal s*** that is happening right now. Anything less in these troubling times is just soft approval of what's going on right now. 

Oh! And there is much satisfaction to be had! PM simply basking in satisfaction with his criminal Minister. Sheesh!

20 minutes ago, jerojero said:

Oh! And there is much satisfaction to be had! PM simply basking in satisfaction with his criminal Minister. Sheesh!

Yes, they are very satisfied with themselves. They can do whatever they want. Nothing and no one will stop them. They are a law unto themselves. They are untouchable. And they know it. The Thai people (who are the true sovereignty holders of the Thai nation) have ALLOWED them to be untouchable ...

 

58 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

These crimes are worse. They are held accountable to no one. That's very, very scary. 

It gets more scary when their unaccountable acts are repeated 20 times and the current army chief is itching for another one. 

5 hours ago, Chang_paarp said:

In a follow up article the SMH published the relevant court documents, including the appeal rejection. Thammanat and his half brother were told had they not given evidence against a number of Thai mafia and military members about their involvement in drug smuggling they would have received a nine year sentence. The article also refers to efforts by Thai opposition and government  members enquiring about the case. 

 

 

the felon MP's biggest problem could be his "ratting out other military mafia" coming to light 

5 hours ago, neeray said:

Swing those doors open! Reveal the skeletons.

That's not a  skeleton or two its a  whole  freakin graveyard.

How Prayut stays in power amazes me, an  uprising is needed, that would also sort the baht out