U.S. House to launch Trump impeachment inquiry over Ukraine controversy

[heybruce]

46 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

the us fakenews media mob wapo, ny times , cnn, msnbc, nbc etc is the most dangerous thing as their fake news coverage of the russion trump campaign collusion delusion for 2.5 yrs speaks for itsself and now the new ukrain impeachment collusion delusion. with a non-whistleblower hearsay complaint , wasn't that 2 weeks before the hearsay complaint came out, rules were changed mysteriously to protect now secondhand whistleblowers ??? hasn't the non-whistleblower source with firsthand knowledge spied upon the president ???

 

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roobaa01

Any chance you could re-post that coherently? 

[4675636b596f75]

Just now, heybruce said:

Any chance you could re-post that coherently? 

I understand it.  Take off your rose tinted glasses.

[Becker]

39 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

Stupid and ignorant Americans.

What a silly generalization.

[chokrai]

3 hours ago, Becker said:

Alright then, looks like the Americans are following them down there:

 

Poll: Majority of Americans say impeachment inquiry into Trump is necessary

Shows how divided Americans are. You can thank Obama and the Democrats for that. 

[Becker]

37 minutes ago, chokrai said:

Shows how divided Americans are. You can thank Obama and the Democrats for that. 

Yes, anyone is to blame except for the great divider himself; Trump

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, Becker said:

Yes, anyone is to blame except fore the great divider himself; Trump

No, only the black guy is to blame.

[4675636b596f75]

2 minutes ago, Becker said:

Yes, anyone is to blame except fore the great divider himself; Trump

Have you been to a doctor lately?

[Becker]

13 minutes ago, stevenl said:

No, only the black guy is to blame.

You must not forget Hillary and her evil....uh, her evil private email server. How dare she!!

[Berkshire]

2 hours ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

Stupid and ignorant Americans.

Yes, that's how Trump became President in the first place.

[Jingthing]

Shows how divided Americans are. You can thank Obama and the Democrats for that. 

No I won't.

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[heybruce]

5 hours ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

I understand it.  Take off your rose tinted glasses.

I understand it as the equivalent of a mumbled rant.  I was giving roobaa01 a chance to do better.

 

He clearly buys into the "fake news" propaganda, but can not cite a single specific instance.  The part about the whistle blower was particularly incoherent, something about rules and timelines which he doesn't like.

[Slickrick]

And the Peanut Gallery are banging their drums again.

[Thomas J]

The Democrats sent a not so veiled threat in a letter form to the Ukraine Prosecutor General essentially demanding that Ukraine investigate Trump as part of the Mueller probe.  However, when Joe Biden takes his son to China aboard Air Force 2 and comes home with a $1.5 billion dollar contract for his sons business or goes to Ukraine and Hunter Biden and he receives a $86,000 monthly consulting contract from a Ukrainian Oil & Gas company that is suppose to be just kept hush.  If Trump even suggests that it be brought to the light of day, that is an impeachable offense. 

[candide]

9 minutes ago, Thomas J said:

The Democrats sent a not so veiled threat in a letter form to the Ukraine Prosecutor General essentially demanding that Ukraine investigate Trump as part of the Mueller probe.  However, when Joe Biden takes his son to China aboard Air Force 2 and comes home with a $1.5 billion dollar contract for his sons business or goes to Ukraine and Hunter Biden and he receives a $86,000 monthly consulting contract from a Ukrainian Oil & Gas company that is suppose to be just kept hush.  If Trump even suggests that it be brought to the light of day, that is an impeachable offense. 

There was an official investigation. Nothing prevents (or has prevented) the DOJ from launching an investigation against Biden in the USA, following the established legal procedure, and then from asking Ukraine to cooperate.

[heybruce]

50 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

as a matter of fact i could not find anything about that bombshell news in the fakenews media cnn, nbc, msnbc, wapo, nytimes only tucker carlson made reference to it on his fox show. surely this bombshell will throw the spanner into the dems impeachment work.

 

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roobaa01

Of course you assume news from this questionable source must be true, since it is telling you stuff you want to believe.

[heybruce]

30 minutes ago, Thomas J said:

The Democrats sent a not so veiled threat in a letter form to the Ukraine Prosecutor General essentially demanding that Ukraine investigate Trump as part of the Mueller probe.  However, when Joe Biden takes his son to China aboard Air Force 2 and comes home with a $1.5 billion dollar contract for his sons business or goes to Ukraine and Hunter Biden and he receives a $86,000 monthly consulting contract from a Ukrainian Oil & Gas company that is suppose to be just kept hush.  If Trump even suggests that it be brought to the light of day, that is an impeachable offense. 

Did the Democrats lock this letter into a safe reserved for highly classified information in order to keep the public in the dark about it?

[4675636b596f75]

US Government forms have an OMB number, typically.  I wonder if the whistleblower form has one.  There is no way they could have put through changes without getting OMB approval.  Once this comes to light, the Democratic Coup against a President of the United States of America will be clear to more voters.

[heybruce]

1 minute ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

US Government forms have an OMB number, typically.  I wonder if the whistleblower form has one.  There is no way they could have put through changes without getting OMB approval.  Once this comes to light, the Democratic Coup against a President of the United States of America will be clear to more voters.

You don't know if the form has the OMB number, but you assume it doesn't and that proves something.  Got it.  ????

[Thaifriends]

Trump is a bull, not possible to ride by the democrats. He is still strongest contender for 2020. Its just a showdown to coverup the corruption.

[Scott]

Posts from unapproved sources have been removed along with replies.   Other off-topic, troll posts also removed.   Continuing to post information from questionable sources will earn suspensions as will conspiracy theories.  

 

Just because you found it on the internet doesn't make it credible.  

 

[mtls2005]

Pompeo appears to be a bit duplicitous, yes I know what a surprise....although, maybe he's one of the Whistleblower's sources?

 

 

Report: Mike Pompeo listened to Trump’s July 25 Ukraine call

The Wall Street Journal reports that the secretary of state was on the call when Trump asked the Ukrainian president to investigate the Bidens.

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/30/20892174/mike-pompeo-ukraine-trump-impeachment-news

 

 

 

 

Pompeo, Sep 22, 2019 ABC interview

 

RADDATZ: You say you know nothing about this, but let me -- let me -- let me ask you this question. The Ukrainian presidential readout of the conversation said they discussed -- quote -- "investigation of corruption cases which inhibited the interaction between Ukraine and the USA." The president tweeted Saturday: "It was a perfectly fine and respectful conversation." Do you think it's -- quote -- "perfectly fine" to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political opponent?

 

POMPEO: I think I saw a statement from the Ukrainian foreign minister yesterday, said there was no pressure applied in the course of the conversation. I do think -- I do think, if Vice President Biden behaved inappropriately, if he was protecting his son and intervened with the Ukrainian leadership in a way that was corrupt, I do think we need to get to the bottom of that, Martha. And I -- I hope that we will. I hope that, if Vice President Biden engaged in behavior that was inappropriate, I hope the American people will come to learn that. America can't have...

 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-22-19-secretary-mike-pompeo-gen/story?id=65778332

 

 

 

Pants on fire, and his are large so this fire may burn for a while.

 

 

[mtls2005]

14 hours ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

US Government forms have an OMB number, typically.  I wonder if the whistleblower form has one.  There is no way they could have put through changes without getting OMB approval.  Once this comes to light, the Democratic Coup against a President of the United States of America will be clear to more voters.

 

IC IG released a statement addressing your "concerns"...

 

 

https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Documents/News/ICIG News/2019/September 30 - Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints/ICIG Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints.pdf

 

Feel free to avoid reading it.

 

Obfuscate away.

 

 

[roobaa01]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

 

IC IG released a statement addressing your "concerns"...

 

 

https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Documents/News/ICIG News/2019/September 30 - Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints/ICIG Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints.pdf

 

Feel free to avoid reading it.

 

Obfuscate away.

 

 

the intel watchdog also highligthed the whistleblower had also firsthand knowledge but nobody specified this firsthand knowledge  so what is it ???

in response to the latest smear impeachment campaign by dems the republican national committee launched a counter offensive titled "STOP THE MADNESS" related to it a web page was

launched  . on the web page house dems are targeted swing states, latest info about the ukraine hoax etc. the rnc campaign aims to create chaos in between dems.

 

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roobaa01

[lannarebirth]

If Trump resigns, does he get to keep the $200 M in his campaign warchest?

[Tippaporn]

Trump's attorney Jay Sekulow lays out this latest attempt for impeachment to a T.  Jump to the 14:50 mark.  Sekulow's delivery is like a man on fire with righteousness.

 

I've been saying it over and over again.  The Dems nonstop push for Trump's impeachment since he took office is going to backfire so spectacularly it'll be like the greatest fireworks show anybody's ever seen.  People on the right side of history are getting very, very, very teed off.  Do not expect them to lay down and roll over.  They'll get to the bottom of this and to the bottom of Russiagate.

 

The perpetrators involved, when they eventually pray for mercy, ain't gonna get any.

 

BTW, my prediction is that Biden will never make it to the Dem nomination.  You can take that to the bank.

 

 

[metisdead]

A post using a video from late night comedy show has been removed as videos of this nature are not a news source, simply trolling. 

 

A baiting troll post has been removed as well as a reply. 

[mtls2005]

Note that Sean Hannity's show is technically "entertainment", and not "news", at least according to Fox. 

 

I'll stipulate that, as it airs 9:00 PM, it is not "late-night" - gotta catch the catheter crowd before they nod off. It is pretty funny though.

 

 

 

 

[Tippaporn]

Deleted Firsthand Knowledge Requirement For Whistleblowers Implicates Another Federal Agency

 

Looks like more out of the ordinary changes other than the acceptance of 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th hand knowledge were made by a Federal Agency.  And coincidentally it's another change that helps facilitate the whistle blower complaint.

 

As of today there still has not been any explanation as to why the whistle blower complaint form was changed.  Why?  They obviously changed the policy because they had a reason to do so.  All the agency needs to do is to make public that reason.  Putting off a disclosure may mean they don't want that reason to become public.

[mtls2005]

49 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

BTW, my prediction is that Biden will never make it to the Dem nomination.  You can take that to the bank.

 

 

This is right up there with "the sun will rise tomorrow". Brilliant prediction. Not.

 

I like Joe, and would vote for him, but he is not the strongest candidate. I know the trump campaign was worried about him, but he would have faltered.

 

Next woman up.

 

 

[mtls2005]

Just now, Tippaporn said:

Deleted Firsthand Knowledge Requirement For Whistleblowers Implicates Another Federal Agency

 

Looks like more out of the ordinary changes other than the acceptance of 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th hand knowledge were made by a Federal Agency.  And coincidentally it's another change that helps facilitate the whistle blower complaint.

 

As of today there still has not been any explanation as to why the whistle blower complaint form was changed.  Why?  They obviously changed the policy because they had a reason to do so.  All the agency needs to do is to make public that reason.  Putting off a disclosure may mean they don't want that reason to become public.

 

Hand meet straw.

 

 

You do realize that this flimsy deflection does nothing to address:

 

the memo outlining the call

any first-hand witnesses who will come forward

other calls to MBS, Putin

 

So the form was changed, who cares? The complaint's trek, to the CIA, the WH, DoJ, the IC IG and the DNI and finally Congress and the public, offered many places to be caught and killed. It wasn't

 

You're way out on a limb with that there "argument".

 

 

I'd defend against the charges, that is, the content of the complaint, not the form, but I'm no country lawyer.

 

What next..."OMG, they used the wrong font!!!"