Trump publicly asks China to investigate Biden, even amid impeachment inquiry

[heybruce]

58 minutes ago, Tounge Thaied said:

What is illegal however, is a sitting VP, tasked with managing the Ukraine crisis, giving Poreshenko president of Ukraine an ultimatum. No money if you don't fire the investigator looking into my sons corruption within Ukraine. Which is also going on in China. Seedy politics as usual. Obama's Coup de tat in Ukraine was handled by Biden and the whole thing is as corrupt as it gets. The Russiagate Hoax, now debunked, was an attempt to derail all of this. Ukraine gate and a bogus attempt at impeachment is yet another desperate attempt by the opposing, left vs, right contrived dialectical political parties to disparage Trump. If you take the time to look at this Ukraine conflict from the outset, this will be easy for anyone to see. American politics is a <deleted> <deleted> show for the dumbed down masses, political theater, bread and circus. The funny thing is the ignorant tax payers pay for this <deleted> circus. 

Someone with only 55 posts using BS straight from the Russian troll playbook.  I'm a little suspicious.

Edited October 4, 2019 by heybruce

[Jingthing]

Trump is so stupid! Saying it in public, but even more stupid, expecting China to help the tariff King MF to get re-elected. China can't wait for King Trump to get thrown off his throne or leave office.  

He would say he's a stable genius. His game is to admit his abuses of power out loud and then the public thinking well maybe it's not that serious. It's always worked before for him.

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[Nyezhov]

50 minutes ago, riclag said:

I'm not a lawyer . I only see the the republicans saying the  I/I is illegal and that it should be put to the floor for a vote on a formal Impeachment. I can not rely on the dems to be truthful,especially since some radical dems have been talking of impeaching him before he was elected

Agree. Vote to impeach to start the process thay have been threatening for so long then let the circus begin.

 

I predicted a nothing burger on the Muellar investigation and there will be even less of a nothng burger on this one. I have been villified in the past because of my accurate prediction and will look for it again.

 

The saddest thing overall for me, a veteran of watching the old CIA investigations and Watergate, is the total lack of intellectual curiosity on the part of Trump haters and the press as to what has been going on. Maybe a nice impeachment trial will force some folks to see the real scandal. Its going to destroy the Democratic party as we knew it. After all for thinking people not just slogan parroters, it is possible to hate (or love) the Scary Orange Meanie Who is Coming for You and still question your government and the means that some folks will go to to get power.

Edited October 4, 2019 by Nyezhov

[Tounge Thaied]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Unsubstantiated hogwash.

Hogwash uh? Stay tuned... it's going to get even more interesting. there is a <deleted> ton more corruption involving the Bidens and this Ukrainian prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, coming.

https://videos.files.wordpress.com/3iW0tvqI/solomon-biden-corruption_hd.mp4

Edited October 4, 2019 by Tounge Thaied

[Skallywag]

1 hour ago, Somtamnication said:

In a civilized country, this would be construed and proven as TREASON. Shame on the Republicans, shaking in their heels with fear from the big bully at the White House.

Where have you been the last 50 years? Politicians are always getting dirt on others to win. It is a game of who can promise the most favors and get the most money from big corporations and the military industrial complex so they can win or be reelected. Very few dirty deeds are ever prosecuted.

[OneMoreFarang]

What I like to ask the Trump supporters here:

Don't you think he has mental problems?

Or do you think his behavior is rational?

And do you care to have a president with a sound mind?

 

There is obviously a lot to argue about his politics. But let's forget that for a moment. I think he is just mentally unfit and it's hard for me to believe that people want to have a president (with nuclear codes) with that state of mind.

[OneMoreFarang]

4 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

Where have you been the last 50 years? Politicians are always getting dirt on others to win. It is a game of who can promise the most favors and get the most money from big corporations and the military industrial complex so they can win or be reelected. Very few dirty deeds are ever prosecuted.

But until now nobody openly asked other (not exactly friendly) countries to produce such dirt.

It's like saying: Please influence our election - but obviously only to help us.

[Mavideol]

6 hours ago, neeray said:

Here's another Trump idea that is bound to backfire ("are we tired of winning yet?").

Quite possibly, this suggestion may just spur China into helping Biden. I'm certain that China will be elated to see this buffoon out of office.

China will not move a finger for any inquiries because it's to risky and could back fire, it may show some of Xi's gang members involved in bribery as well

[lannarebirth]

49 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Republicans are starting to peel away   --  PULL UP  PULL UP  PULL UP

 

Could it all end this weekend?

 

Impeachment will be moat moot.

 

 

Just imagine how many different court systems and jurisdictions he'd have to negotiate immunity in. Seems an impossible task.  No one body can offer blanket immunity from prosecution.

[Mavideol]

5 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Political candidates are trying to have their political opponent investigated. What is the difference if Trump stoops to the same tactics? The dems need to put impeachment to a vote on the floor or they are doing the same thing or even worse.

the guy doesn't follow any LAW he has his own mind, don't know what's right or wrong, he uses rhetoric language that can and will be constructed as incitement to violence, he should step down fast or very fast before more damage to the USA has been done.... note the message

 

“Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election,” Weintraub wrote. “This is not a novel concept.“

 

 

[Sujo]

15 minutes ago, Tounge Thaied said:

Hogwash uh? Stay tuned... it's going to get even more interesting. there is a <deleted> ton more corruption involving the Bidens and this Ukrainian prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, coming.

https://videos.files.wordpress.com/3iW0tvqI/solomon-biden-corruption_hd.mp4

Which has nothing to do with why trump will be impeached. 

 

2 separate issues.

 

For those too dumb to understand. Its not what biden did or didnt do. Its what trump did.

[mtls2005]

4 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

Just imagine how many different court systems and jurisdictions he'd have to negotiate immunity in. Seems an impossible task.  No one body can offer blanket immunity from prosecution.

 

POTUS46.

 

Ms. Pelosi would do the right thing, by pardoning Trump, that is, what's best for the country and national healing.

 

 

I do not want to see him in prison.

 

Some of his enablers (co-conspirators)? Sure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 4, 2019 by mtls2005

[lannarebirth]

6 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

POTUS46.

 

Ms. Pelosi would do the right thing, that is, what's best for the country and national healing.

 

 

I do not want to see him in prison.

 

Some of his enablers (co-conspirators)? Sure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In Nixon's case all Ford could do was offer a pardon against any crimes Nixon may have committed against the government of the United States. I don't think even that puts Trump in the clear.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 4, 2019 by lannarebirth

[mtls2005]

7 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

In Nixon's case all Ford could do was offer a pardon against any crimes Nixon may have committed against the government of the United States. I don't think even that puts Trump in the clear.

 

Yeah. States/Cities could go after him, but what good would it serve?

 

The sooner he's gone the better.

 

Giving him more oxygen during trials would just delay any possible reconciliation?

 

He can go work on his memoir and open the Trump Presidential Library, which can display his favorite book, The Bible.

 

 

Barr, Pompeo, Rudy G., Mnuchin? At last give us a perpwalk and mug shot for posterity.

 

Who knew Rick Perry was the smart one?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 4, 2019 by mtls2005

[lannarebirth]

I do not see any kind of reconciliation on the horizon from either side.  But I live in hope.

[chokrai]

5 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

One person can make a mistake and come to realize and admit it.

How many voted Trump to be POTUS ?

Not as many as will vote for him next year.

[Mavideol]

Trump claimed the Dems were preparing a coup and acting like the "Italian mafia" one has to wonder if he was referring to some of his allies origins

First Barr, Now Pompeo: Italy Is Hub of Impeachment Intrigue for Trump Officials

Jason Horowitz,The New York Times

[Chomper Higgot]

44 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Agree. Vote to impeach to start the process thay have been threatening for so long then let the circus begin.

 

I predicted a nothing burger on the Muellar investigation and there will be even less of a nothng burger on this one. I have been villified in the past because of my accurate prediction and will look for it again.

 

The saddest thing overall for me, a veteran of watching the old CIA investigations and Watergate, is the total lack of intellectual curiosity on the part of Trump haters and the press as to what has been going on. Maybe a nice impeachment trial will force some folks to see the real scandal. Its going to destroy the Democratic party as we knew it. After all for thinking people not just slogan parroters, it is possible to hate (or love) the Scary Orange Meanie Who is Coming for You and still question your government and the means that some folks will go to to get power.

That ‘nothing burger’ Mueller report has a sting of charges that become indictable the minute Trump leaves office.

 

[chokrai]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

This is a classic example of an extreme narcissist, who is incapable of learning, improving, modulating his behavior, or becoming a better version of himself. When he commits an error, rather than reversing course, and avoiding that mistake again, he just continues on the exact same path. He is pathologically insane. He needs clinical treatment, heavy doses of medication, for his neurological conditions, and years and years of therapy. And he is a traitor to his nation. This man does not even know how to spell the work patriot. If his children were loyal, and moral people, they would do what Nixon's children did, and try to convince their father to resign, before he brought even more shame onto the family.

 

He is going down, and it is entirely of his own making. The world awaits, and the worldwide celebration will last months, when his downfall happens. And if he is able to escape going to prison after he leaves office, or is ousted, he will return to a crumbling empire, and find that his name is so utterly toxic, nobody but Russian gangsters will ever want anything to do with his company, his properties, or his brand. He has made enemies throughout the civilized world, and it is likely that if he dies a bankrupt man, nobody will weep for him. 

Good to have dreams I guess.

 

[chokrai]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I understand, and I am absolutely sure Pelosi understands, that the call between Trump and the Ukrainian President is the tip of an iceberg of criminality.

 

The people feeding you the ‘impeach vote now’ message understand that the investigation of the whole set of crimes is what will win over the American public for the removal of Trump, be that by impeachment, an election or a GOP forced resignation.

 

Yes I understand why you want the vote now.

The only Iceberg is the one the Democrats are about to crash into. Hint- its ORANGE.

[Jingthing]

Houston -- we have a problem. 

It's becoming more clear that Vice President Mike Pence is not clean on the same charges that are being developed against 45 regarding Ukraine, China, etc. 

What does this mean?

If the democrats are going to impeach 45 on this it could become clear that they should also properly impeach Vice President Mike Pence as well on similar charges. 

But if 45 and Vice President Mike Pence were both in line to be impeached and removed, then the next in line for president is Nancy Pelosi!

That doesn't work for the democrats at all.

First of all Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to be president.

Secondly if they did impeach both, partisan republicans would have a stronger case that the impeachment push was 100 percent partisan. 

But if they impeach 45 and NOT Vice President Mike Pence then that would be legally and ethically irresponsible. 

The case against Vice President Mike Pence may not yet be as strong as the case against 45 who is impeaching himself but if It gets much stronger, IRONICALLY, it weakens the effort to impeach 45. 

Bizarre situation indeed. 

[riclag]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That ‘nothing burger’ Mueller report has a sting of charges that become indictable the minute Trump leaves office.

 

more conspiracy theories 

[joecoolfrog]

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

The man has big Cojones made out of stainless steel, he has by now has broken every true and tested molds of what a US president should do or say, would it work in his favor? only time will tell...

Or to apply Occam's Razor , he is simply utterly unqualified to be POTUS.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What I like to ask the Trump supporters here:

Don't you think he has mental problems?

Or do you think his behavior is rational?

And do you care to have a president with a sound mind?

 

There is obviously a lot to argue about his politics. But let's forget that for a moment. I think he is just mentally unfit and it's hard for me to believe that people want to have a president (with nuclear codes) with that state of mind.

In his defence ( I can't believe I'm saying this ) he does tend to back off when it comes to the crunch. Perhaps he is inverting Theodore Rooseveldt's foreign policy to

"Speak loudly, and carry a licorice stick".

I don't know about his mental problems, but he does have rat cunning.

[Nyezhov]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What I like to ask the Trump supporters here:

Don't you think he has mental problems?

Or do you think his behavior is rational?

And do you care to have a president with a sound mind?

 

 

Im not a President Trump supporter, Im an America supporter. 

 

I think he is absolutely nuts, the way a lot of those guys from NYC who build things are nuts. Unless you have been in that milieu, you wouldnt understand. Go hang around a major contructition site and dont be a snowflake.

 

I think his behavior can be very rational and calculating. I think his strategy on China is excellent, as well as other things he does. Im not in agreement with all of his policies. I think he suffers from the same personality disorders as Obama (narcissism and dissembling), Nixon (paranoia), Clinton/Kennedy (sex crazed and lusty) and LBJ (vulgarity). 

 

I think the whole Big Crazy orange Man with his finger on the nuclear codes is an argument that is as stale as that yogurt in my fridge dated August 25. Remember, the economy was going to crash upon his election and a nuclear war would start, among other things. But we are still humming along. 

 

I ask the same questions he does: Why are the Dems wasting year after year on imaginary scandals and screeching, as opposed to fixing the real problems in the USA? 

 

You asked for opinions and there it is. Now watch the confused and sad emojis get laid on me, as well as the arguments and and hominems from the anti Trumpers. But you guys enjoy, its nap time!

[Kelsall]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What I like to ask the Trump supporters here:

Don't you think he has mental problems?

Or do you think his behavior is rational?

And do you care to have a president with a sound mind?

 

There is obviously a lot to argue about his politics. But let's forget that for a moment. I think he is just mentally unfit and it's hard for me to believe that people want to have a president (with nuclear codes) with that state of mind.

No.

Yes.

Yes.

[Skeptic7]

The Idiot of the free world. And unfree world. OK...The World Idiot ????

[metisdead]

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[johnnybangkok]

16 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Im not a President Trump supporter, Im an America supporter. 

 

I think he is absolutely nuts, the way a lot of those guys from NYC who build things are nuts. Unless you have been in that milieu, you wouldnt understand. Go hang around a major contructition site and dont be a snowflake.

 

I think his behavior can be very rational and calculating. I think his strategy on China is excellent, as well as other things he does. Im not in agreement with all of his policies. I think he suffers from the same personality disorders as Obama (narcissism and dissembling), Nixon (paranoia), Clinton/Kennedy (sex crazed and lusty) and LBJ (vulgarity). 

 

I think the whole Big Crazy orange Man with his finger on the nuclear codes is an argument that is as stale as that yogurt in my fridge dated August 25. Remember, the economy was going to crash upon his election and a nuclear war would start, among other things. But we are still humming along. 

 

I ask the same questions he does: Why are the Dems wasting year after year on imaginary scandals and screeching, as opposed to fixing the real problems in the USA? 

 

You asked for opinions and there it is. Now watch the confused and sad emojis get laid on me, as well as the arguments and and hominems from the anti Trumpers. But you guys enjoy, its nap time!

So rather than spread out over 5 ex-Presidents, Trump has all of their problems - narcissism, dissembling, paranoia, sex crazed, lusty and vulgarity rolled into one?

 

You certainly get value for money with him.

 

[OneMoreFarang]

46 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Im not a President Trump supporter, Im an America supporter. 

 

I think he is absolutely nuts, the way a lot of those guys from NYC who build things are nuts. Unless you have been in that milieu, you wouldnt understand. Go hang around a major contructition site and dont be a snowflake.

 

I think his behavior can be very rational and calculating. I think his strategy on China is excellent, as well as other things he does. Im not in agreement with all of his policies. I think he suffers from the same personality disorders as Obama (narcissism and dissembling), Nixon (paranoia), Clinton/Kennedy (sex crazed and lusty) and LBJ (vulgarity). 

 

I think the whole Big Crazy orange Man with his finger on the nuclear codes is an argument that is as stale as that yogurt in my fridge dated August 25. Remember, the economy was going to crash upon his election and a nuclear war would start, among other things. But we are still humming along. 

 

I ask the same questions he does: Why are the Dems wasting year after year on imaginary scandals and screeching, as opposed to fixing the real problems in the USA? 

 

You asked for opinions and there it is. Now watch the confused and sad emojis get laid on me, as well as the arguments and and hominems from the anti Trumpers. But you guys enjoy, its nap time!

Thanks