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US urges Thailand to delay ban on pesticide as it will affect Bt51-bn of imports

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  • Having to choose between environmentally safe products and incur a lose in profits over continued use of products that poison the environment and destroys people's lives should be an easy decision...i

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    Oh yeah that World Health Organization, after careful review, declared glyphosate and other agrochemicals to be “probable human carcinogen”  The U.S. is clearly in denial... I wonder why.  https:/

14 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

. The court determined that glyphosate played a crucial part in his illness and awarded him a $289 million verdict.

Recently, a California jury awarded $2 billion to a couple after ruling that they developed non-Hodgkin's lymphoma due to using Roundup.

Is this what you mean or do you know something else?

regards Worgeordie

The jury ruled that Roundup’s design was “defective”, that the product lacked sufficient cancer warnings, and that Monsanto was negligent in its failure to warn Hardeman of the NHL risk.

It would be nice if thailand continues with the ban. In my opinion as a american anything the epa says is not in anyones good interest.

but i am sure thailand will just cave and give the us what it askes. At least for trade.

 

6 minutes ago, farmerjo said:

The jury ruled that Roundup’s design was “defective”, that the product lacked sufficient cancer warnings, and that Monsanto was negligent in its failure to warn Hardeman of the NHL risk.

So are you saying the product is OK, and it's just that there was no warning on the label.

regards worgeordie

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23 minutes ago, robblok said:

 I went from a huge supporter of the US to a critic after all the lies that were told and the manipulations. I guess I was not alone. 

plus one on that line.
 

27 minutes ago, robblok said:

Still the US is just a little bit less bad then the Russians and Chinese. 

Its tough to be irrelevant to the Great Game isnt it. All you need to do is pick a side.

18 minutes ago, farmerjo said:

The jury ruled that Roundup’s design was “defective”, that the product lacked sufficient cancer warnings, and that Monsanto was negligent in its failure to warn Hardeman of the NHL risk.

It will be reversed on appeal, based on what little I know.

since China will not buy from US those Soybeans, they need to be flogged somewhere.
I can eat less soybeans.

How come a US Secretary of State dares to instruct a Sovereign State on its Domestic Policies ?
How come The Secretary has time to devote to less than 2 billion $ of exports??
How come times are so desperate in Trump Land  ???

Moreover, why are there so many c.c. lines in the letter, was it designed to be leaked to the public ?

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Take heed Brexiteers. This is what a trade agreement with the US will bring you. This and GM food, chlorinated chicken, hormone injected beef and much much more. All banned in Europe and the UK at present, but not for long. Thank you Mr. Trump for poisoning our children.

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6 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Its tough to be irrelevant to the Great Game isnt it. All you need to do is pick a side.

Better to be irrelevant then to be hated ????

7 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

It will be reversed on appeal, based on what little I know.

sorry for the pun, don't take offense. 

but your Avatar sounds Russian, is that why you know ? ????

Sad .  Con agra has tRumps ear.  Any use of roundup can join the class action suit.    I don't know why  it's still at home pro type stores.  Sell it like candy.  Why  would produce  that doesn't use weed killer cost more than organic?  Sad day indeed.  I think Monsanto didn't want Thailand's ban to grow to other countries.  

This is about Thai exports to the USA as I read it. Or is it really about importing into Thailand US manufactured weed killer?

...some things not right about this....starting with the 'smudged' (?) photocopies....

 

...also timing too convenient for the sellers (?) ...or those that profit form the sale of these poisons...

 

....hope they really investigate before this is accepted as 'Gospel'...

 

...the Glyph...poison already banned in many civilized countries....

 

...and the sale of poisons has nothing to do with the sale of crops...

 

...the US government is clearly avoiding any possible 'quid pro quo' scenarios involving foreign governments these days....which this would appear to be...

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6 hours ago, ChristianBlessing said:

",,,the EPA’s findings are consistent with scientific reviews conducted by others including..."

So, the current US administration and EPA does pay attention to science - especially when there are dollar signs in the footnotes.

It reflects the USA's attitude to other environmental issues. If it affects the making of money to make rich men richer, forget it. Their leader is the prime example. The American dream? Nightmare more like it.

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Paraquat, Glyphosate and the other horrible chemical has no place on our globe. USDA is full of bovine excrement it promotes. Nobody wants Glyphosate and it should be banned everywhere. Why should Thailand not continue with their proposed ban? On the basis of USDA???

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I agree 100% with the Thai government ban! Thailand should NOT be ruled by the USA. I'm 100#% sure "Monsanto" is behind this and is a company which is NOT open and transparent and just lies about the products sprayed onto our food. Again i agree 100% with this ban!

As per usual practice the herd of TVF nightie shredders work themselves into a frothing frenzy over a harmless, when used correctly, chemical. Alcohol kills a lot more people than Roundup ever has, or will ever do. Let's ban that instead.

6 hours ago, unamazedloso said:

this is a joke right? i dont see the US doing something like this at all. What the hell would it have to do with exports from the US?

Farmers pay people to spray who HAVE bery short lives. Thats fact because its dam obvious if you live amoungst farmers as we do.

paying for weed removal isnt any different but just a little slower. 

Not all weees need to be pulled either and can in fact help richen the sil when rotared or plowed for next harvest.

This story is rubbish and jusy about someones wealth who isnt a farmer at all.

It's not a joke. Blame your beloved president,the moron Trump and the boss for EPA. They never listenl to science. Everything is about $US.

7 hours ago, webfact said:

The US also claims that its Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has found that glyphosate poses no meaningful risk to human health when used as authorised. 

And there is the problem !

When Seattle officials were considering cutting back on glyphosate, they sought advice from San Francisco, which began rolling out restrictions on chemical pesticides in 1997. Seattle’s not alone—tens of cities across the U.S. have recently cracked down on glyphosate use. In 2018, Portland, Maine, banned the chemical, and Austin, Texas, restricted it. This year, Miami and Los Angeles County approved their own bans on city property. Some cities, like Boston, avoid glyphosate on an unofficial basis. Others, like New York City, may be poised to ban it in the near future.

 

https://www.citylab.com/environment/2019/10/glyphosate-pesticide-cancer-roundup-lawsuit-bayer-monstanto/598537/

I did a tiny amount of reading on this topic and this stood out:

 

"Farmers quickly adopted glyphosate for agricultural weed control, especially after Monsanto introduced glyphosate-resistant Roundup Ready crops, enabling farmers to kill weeds without killing their crops."

 

If Monsanto is involved, we're in for a dirty ride!

6 hours ago, unamazedloso said:

What the hell would it have to do with exports from the US?

What does Rudi Giuliani have to do with US Foreign policy? Mick Mulvaney says that's how this White House does things now and people need to get over it. Plain and simple it is the threat of withholding something in return for something else. Thailand may be a long way away from the US but any threat, no matter how small, to the profits of political campaign contributors is taken very seriously. 

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Another fine example of the values of Corporate USA who Brexit will force us to cosy up to more and more to get trade deals!!!

 

...Special Relationship....No thanks! Give me Europe any day!

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Screw you USDA!  For once, I applaud Thailand government for making the right decision.  The hell with the US interest. If they want to continue poisoning their population, go right ahead but Thailand is done!.

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No mention of the destruction of bees (and wildlife) on which we are dependent for the pollination of 40% of our food!

Did USA care about Thai businesses that lost money when Thai seafood was banned because of slave labour ? Don't tell me slave labour is worse than carsinogens.    Also we will die sooner of the poisons we eat than of the global warming. 

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