I will stay 4 months with a NON O ME visa and make a border visit to extend the first 3 months, Simple as that, I drive the car of my wife, she is Thai but we live in the Netherlands. The car is insured FULL with any driver. The international driver license can be used for 3 months , although this document is valid for one year, is a fact. When i leave Thailand and come back the same day I extend my NON O Me with 3 months. Will the IDL also be legally valid for the insurance?

Most of the police checks are very easy because they never check your allowed time in Thailand in your passport and can not read the text of it.

I try to get the Thai drivers license but I do not know I have my yellow book on time before the first 3 months.

Who knows the real answer. 

Because in case of an accident I am in big problems if not insured.

 

Please only answers with knowledge!!

 

It's an IDP, International Driving Permit. Its not a licence, purely a translation of your home licence. If you have a full driving licence then you are covered for insurance purposes, although if you go to your local immigration office and get a certificate of residency then obtaining a Thai licence is pretty easy. No need to get a yellow book.

About a year ago, I got my Thai drivers license in Yasothon (near Ubon) without requiring a yellow book. I did have an Australian drivers license and a certificate of residence which I got at my amphur (district of province) by taking the village boss with me. 

I think you would do better with a Dutch drivers license than an international license.

Incidentally the license guys took my original residence certificate after refusing a copy but I had made coloured copies (for the red stamp). I went back to my amphur to ask for another original and they refused even though it's in their computer system Go figure. The copy helped me open a bank account where I could give them a mountain of id as they initially told me I need a letter from the Australian embassy in Bangkok.

I had to do an eye test, reaction test and watch some videos - no knowledge test or on-road test,

But it's the nature of the Thai bureaucracy to demand, deny, back flip or wave you thru depending on the weather.

1 hour ago, Max Brok said:

I try to get the Thai drivers license but I do not know I have my yellow book on time before the first 3 months

A Yellow Book isn't required to get a Thai driving licence.

14 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

1 hour ago, Max Brok said:

I try to get the Thai drivers license but I do not know I have my yellow book on time before the first 3 months

 

14 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

A Yellow Book isn't required to get a Thai driving licence.

I concur. I got my initial 2 year licence in Udon Thani and my 5 year renewal in Sakon Nakhon. Yellow book was not required in either case. Nor did I have and never have an IDP.

45 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

A Yellow Book isn't required to get a Thai driving licence.

Yet another proof of residence would be. Some pay for that privilege.

all maybe good answers for another question.

I ask the legallity of a international drivers license/permit after a 3 months. When my NON O ME visa is extended for 3 month.

I apreciate the answers but.

 

Please read the question as it is?

11 minutes ago, Max Brok said:

all maybe good answers for another question.

I ask the legallity of a international drivers license/permit after a 3 months. When my NON O ME visa is extended for 3 month.

I apreciate the answers but.

 

Please read the question as it is?

 

Regarding the specific legality: 

As you are on a Non Immigrant Visa (if I'm not mistaken) you are considered resident, as such you will need to have a Thai Drivers license.

 

If your license is in English, an IDP is irrelevant (1968 Vienna convention which Thailand, although not a signatory, follows) you and drive on your National License (if in English) if you are a Tourist. 

 

Realistically: Even the Police don't know the laws here, thus, if you are stopped and show your National (Dutch license) its likely the Police would ask you for an IDP.

 

If your license is not in English *(i.e. if its in Dutch), you will require an IDP to accompany that license. The BiB only know the start and end date (1 year from issue) of the IDP and thus do not know for how long you have been driving unless they wish to tie it in with your visa (highly improbable).

 

The 3 month (90 days) legality issue is not actually written anywhere, it's just widely understood amongst the ExPat community that 90 days is the length an IDP is valid from the date of entry into Thailand.

This may have originated from insurance limitations, i.e. if you are staying in Thailand longer than 90 days it is a requirement of 'some' insurance companies (in the small print) that you have a Thai License.

Additionally, if you are staying in Thailand longer than 90 days, you are also considered resident (a grey area - but you are not considered a 'tourist') - this grey area is where some regular visitors are having difficulty with repeated visits and permission of stay.

 

Again - this is not 100% clear. I'd argue that none of the regulations regarding Tourist Visa vs Driving licensing and Non Immigration Visas, IDP's and licensing are very clear - this is why there is so much debate on ThaiVisa.com on this issue and those similar.

 

The specific departments themselves are not clear or don't understand, varied information and misinformation has been distributed in a case by case basis, on a region by region basis, to different Foreigners in Thailand - there is simply very little consistency.

 

The only thing to be sure of, you are fully legal and covered if you have a Thai License which is easy to get. 

 

 

 

9 hours ago, Max Brok said:

all maybe good answers for another question.

I ask the legallity of a international drivers license/permit after a 3 months. When my NON O ME visa is extended for 3 month.

I apreciate the answers but.

 

Please read the question as it is?

It doesn't matter what visa you are on. Once you have been in Thailand 3 months you need a Thai driving licence. But that is only if you have insurance. I believe it is a condition of an insurance policy and nothing else. I believe the IDP is acceptable for 12 months, or more, if you do not have insurance.

18 hours ago, Max Brok said:

I will stay 4 months with a NON O ME visa and make a border visit to extend the first 3 months, Simple as that, I drive the car of my wife, she is Thai but we live in the Netherlands. The car is insured FULL with any driver. The international driver license can be used for 3 months , although this document is valid for one year, is a fact. When i leave Thailand and come back the same day I extend my NON O Me with 3 months. Will the IDL also be legally valid for the insurance?

Most of the police checks are very easy because they never check your allowed time in Thailand in your passport and can not read the text of it.

I try to get the Thai drivers license but I do not know I have my yellow book on time before the first 3 months.

Who knows the real answer. 

"Who knows the real answer". 

 

Who knows?  In your case the one that matters is the insurance company as they are the ones who will be deciding on any claims.   Get your wife to call them and ask them specifically what they require.   Thaivisa posters claims, as good as many are, will carry no weight whatsoever when you're arguing a claim!

Your Dutch license is valid, and can easily be used to obtain a Thai DL as well. Yellow housebook is not required for that, certificate of residence is sufficient.

 

However, as long as driving on the Dutch license an IDP (available at ANWB, other International Licenses are fake) is recommended since the police might demand it.

 

Regarding exiting and returning, questionable tactics at best, since it could be seen as actions used contrary to the intentions of the law, same as on a red light turning left and on the next road again left so you're on the main road again, having avoided the red light.

These answers are tipical for Thailand because different authoritie/organisations have their own rules. I will follow the save way and do everything to get a Thai drivers license on time.

 

Thanks for your explenations.