UK PM Johnson plans to block extension of Brexit transition beyond 2020

[stevenl]

5 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

I know you don't but I didn't expect any less from someone of the 'glass half empty' persuasion.

For me the glass is always half full, but with brexit at least 3/4 empty for the UK.

[billd766]

14 hours ago, cleopatra2 said:

Not quite

The tax collected from Scottish Income Tax goes to the Scottish Government.

 

Thus if a person is liable to Scotland Income Tax of 21% then the Scottish government gets the full 21% 

Thanks for that information. I assumed that as all servicemen and women worldwide pay UK tax at the standard rate it would go to the UK Treasury as normal.

[billd766]

18 hours ago, Nanglon said:

https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2018/10/11/fishing-quota-uk-defra-michael-gove/ 

 

Will the government listen to the gripes of the small boats, or cave in to the wealthier partly foreign owned trawlers? Can Boris rule the waves?

Firstly let the UK fishing rights back and then we can see who gets what.

[DannyCarlton]

15 hours ago, NanLaew said:

British are still quite good at making things work regardless of the adversity being faced.

I agree. No matter what adversity Johnson/Cummings faces he will take us out of the EU with no deal and crash the economy. His vision.

[DannyCarlton]

17 hours ago, URMySunshine said:

Selfishly I was hoping for a post-election Boris baht bounce and on the day and after I thought we had it and dreamed of getting 45 before the end of January. I do hope we won't have to wait for year end before we climb again. 

The £ is sliding back down because Johnson has put a no deal brexit firmly back on the agenda. At year end you'll see it reach new lows when we actually do leave with no deal.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cx250jmk4e7t/pound-sterling-gbp

 

"The pound is down again - around 0.28% - to $1.3094.

"Sterling has completely retraced the election night move now, with cable again taking a 1.30 handle. The abrupt shift is because Boris Johnson is said to be legislating to compel his own government to exit the transition arrangements with the EU in Dec 2020, with a deal in place or not," said Neil Wilson, chief market analyst at Markets.com"

[NanLaew]

53 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

The £ is sliding back down because Johnson has put a no deal brexit firmly back on the agenda. At year end you'll see it reach new lows when we actually do leave with no deal.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cx250jmk4e7t/pound-sterling-gbp

 

"The pound is down again - around 0.28% - to $1.3094.

"Sterling has completely retraced the election night move now, with cable again taking a 1.30 handle. The abrupt shift is because Boris Johnson is said to be legislating to compel his own government to exit the transition arrangements with the EU in Dec 2020, with a deal in place or not," said Neil Wilson, chief market analyst at Markets.com"

The enduring inevitability of the no-deal Brexit still manages to induce surprise in some quarters. Amazingly resilient stuff, eh?

 

It is NO surprise that failing to get the EU onboard within his schedule, it will be walk-away and WTO rules time. The startled look on the faces of the erstwhile Remainer after Johnson chose to move his Brexit goals from speculative media headlines to enshrine it in the Queen's Speech is only so much fakery and pretense, even in the markets.

 

 

[Loiner]

16 hours ago, stevenl said:

For me the glass is always half full, but with brexit at least 3/4 empty for the UK.

Don’t know how you work that out. For the rest of us, with Brexit our cup now runneth over. 

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

The £ is sliding back down because Johnson has put a no deal brexit firmly back on the agenda. At year end you'll see it reach new lows when we actually do leave with no deal.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cx250jmk4e7t/pound-sterling-gbp

 

"The pound is down again - around 0.28% - to $1.3094.

"Sterling has completely retraced the election night move now, with cable again taking a 1.30 handle. The abrupt shift is because Boris Johnson is said to be legislating to compel his own government to exit the transition arrangements with the EU in Dec 2020, with a deal in place or not," said Neil Wilson, chief market analyst at Markets.com"

Full umbilical severance has always been in the country's best interest & I ain't swallowing the gloom-and-doom any more than the 'didn't-know-wot-they-voted-fors' did last week.

Edited December 20, 2019 by evadgib

[DannyCarlton]

1 minute ago, evadgib said:

Full umbilical severance has always been in the country's best interest & I ain't swallowing the gloom-and-doom any more than the public did last week.

Because you can't bear to think that Boris Cummings is a lying scumbag and that you have fallen for his BS for the last 4 years. I've given it to you in black and white. Up to you if you continue to delude yourself or not.

[transam]

6 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Because you can't bear to think that Boris Cummings is a lying scumbag and that you have fallen for his BS for the last 4 years. I've given it to you in black and white. Up to you if you continue to delude yourself or not.

Were you the No.10 doorman or butler...?  ????

[DannyCarlton]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Were you the No.10 doorman or butler...?  ????

Just someone who has his eyes wide open.

 

I wasn't fooled for one minute by Boris Cummings or Jeremy Lansman.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2019 by DannyCarlton

[evadgib]

5 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Because you can't bear to think that Boris Cummings is a lying scumbag and that you have fallen for his BS for the last 4 years. I've given it to you in black and white. Up to you if you continue to delude yourself or not.

Porkies make no difference to a decisive mind, nor does uninformed guesswork or unqualified medical slurs based upon nothing more than a continued 4 year failure to accept & apply losers consent.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Just someone who has his eyes wide open.

 

 

Night watchman then....????

[DannyCarlton]

Just now, transam said:

Night watchman then....????

Yep. Happy with that. 555

[vogie]

18 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Because you can't bear to think that Boris Cummings is a lying scumbag and that you have fallen for his BS for the last 4 years. I've given it to you in black and white. Up to you if you continue to delude yourself or not.

It doesn't matter what you say, the country has given Boris a mandate to get Brexit done. It is not a wishy washy Mrs Mays government anymore, the EU never took her serious, I believe they even thought that with all the discord with the disingenuous MPs in parliament that in reality we would never leave, after all how many people said that more people wish to remain now, oh how wrong they were.

It is not in doubt now, we are leaving, the EU may not have taken the last parliament seriously, but you'd better believe they will take this one serious, Boris is showing he means it, sorry if it affects your own personal portfolio, if you have one, but buckle up, the ride may not be to your liking, but that's democracy for you.

Edited December 20, 2019 by vogie

[evadgib]

15 minutes ago, vogie said:

It doesn't matter what you say, the country has given Boris a mandate to get Brexit done. It is not a wishy washy Mrs Mays government anymore, the EU never took her serious, I believe they even thought that with all the discord with the disingenuous MPs in parliament that in reality we would never leave, after all how many people said that more people wish to remain now, oh how wrong they were.

It is not in doubt now, we are leaving, the EU may not have taken the last parliament seriously, but you'd better believe they will take this one serious, Boris is showing he means it, sorry if it affects your own personal portfolio, if you have one, but buckle up, the ride may not be to your liking, but that's democracy for you.

All their (remainer) bluster came to nothing.

Last Friday the result was checkmate and it's about time the 'someone elses fault' brigade realized their seasonal goose has been cooked.

[Pattaya46]

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

Firstly let the UK fishing rights back and then we can see who gets what.

This will never happen, because UK already sold nearly half of its fishing rights to foreign countries and will never get them back... and this has nothing to do with EU.

 

Just ask Google, or by example read this :

https://energydesk.greenpeace.org/2019/03/07/fishing-brexit-uk-fleetwood/ 

[david555]

32 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

This will never happen, because UK already sold nearly half of its fishing rights to foreign countries and will never get them back... and this has nothing to do with EU.

 

Just ask Google, or by example read this :

https://energydesk.greenpeace.org/2019/03/07/fishing-brexit-uk-fleetwood/ 

????So on their happiest day from the year you like to shaken up them at risk of a depression …? LOL ????

Didn't you know they are "selective reading" laws and treaty's in their own interest only …..

 

Edited December 20, 2019 by david555

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

This will never happen, because UK already sold nearly half of its fishing rights to foreign countries and will never get them back... and this has nothing to do with EU.

 

Just ask Google, or by example read this :

https://energydesk.greenpeace.org/2019/03/07/fishing-brexit-uk-fleetwood/ 

The rules can be changed.

[david555]

29 minutes ago, nauseus said:

The rules can be changed.

Does that count for Scotland too....? Oh I guess not there they hiding behind the "once in a decade../ lifetime or whatever the English fil in there !

Double standards again , duplicity al around 

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

This will never happen, because UK already sold nearly half of its fishing rights to foreign countries and will never get them back... and this has nothing to do with EU.

 

Just ask Google, or by example read this :

https://energydesk.greenpeace.org/2019/03/07/fishing-brexit-uk-fleetwood/ 

Of course it will happen.

 

There may not be as much as before, but it will happen.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, david555 said:

????So on their happiest day from the year you like to shaken up them at risk of a depression …? LOL ????

Didn't you know they are "selective reading" laws and treaty's in their own interest only …..

 

A bit like the Remainers and Labour who really wanted an election, knowing that the Tories will lose big time. Strange how that result worked out.

 

How about Labour saying that they will renationalise everything that was sold off? Did you selectively read that too?

 

I had a quick skim at it then I had to stop as I couldn't stop laughing.

Edited December 20, 2019 by billd766
added extra text

[billd766]

32 minutes ago, david555 said:

Does that count for Scotland too....? Oh I guess not there they hiding behind the "once in a decade../ lifetime or whatever the English fil in there !

Double standards again , duplicity al around 

But it was Alex Salmond who quoted that at the time, or doesn't that matter?

 

quote from your post "Double standards again, duplicity all around".

[RuamRudy]

17 minutes ago, billd766 said:

But it was Alex Salmond who quoted that at the time, or doesn't that matter?

 

quote from your post "Double standards again, duplicity all around".

I took a once in a lifetime holiday to Florida a couple of years back - such a pity that I can never return. If only I had termed the holiday differently...

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, david555 said:

Does that count for Scotland too....? Oh I guess not there they hiding behind the "once in a decade../ lifetime or whatever the English fil in there !

Double standards again , duplicity al around 

What on earth are you on about now?

[david555]

8 minutes ago, nauseus said:

What on earth are you on about now?

your quote " rules can be changed ".....but apparently only when it suits the English that's what I meant ,

 

BTW  the bill is voted , congratulations , now the real hard stuff comes to deal with ...  

Edited December 20, 2019 by david555

[elliss]

2 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

I took a once in a lifetime holiday to Florida a couple of years back - such a pity that I can never return. If only I had termed the holiday differently...

 

 Hope you visited Disney Land .  What a life changing experience.

  God bless America.  A welcome change from depressing UK .

 Merry Xmas , my <deleted> ...

 

 

Edited December 20, 2019 by elliss

[vogie]

2 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

I took a once in a lifetime holiday to Florida a couple of years back - such a pity that I can never return. If only I had termed the holiday differently...

So are you saying we shouldn't believe what a SNP MP says?

[Kwasaki]

8 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

Because you can't bear to think that Boris Cummings is a lying scumbag and that you have fallen for his BS for the last 4 years. I've given it to you in black and white. Up to you if you continue to delude yourself or not.

Well at least the EU trojan horse TM was realised at last and the UK people have voted out of EU again IMO by getting Boris as the newly elected Prime minister so continue to delude yourself. ????

[Denim]

The recent election was the best chance for the remainers to prove their battle cry that a second referendum would easily overturn the result of the first.

 

How wrong can you be. Instead of a reversal , Brexit has strengthened as a result of the election.

 

Seems like in the end , it is the likes of Steve Coogan et al who are the ignorant ones for not understanding that the electorate still have a sense of fair play and a loathing for patronizing smart alex's.