Beware of police checkpoints

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17 hours ago, Traubert said:

1000 dead people in questionable circumstances don't matter, because there is a bigger number not shot dead?

 

Riiggghhttt....

 

That's like the argument that flu isn't important because only 1% of those who catch it die (130,000) but corona virus is worse because 2.3% who catch it die (501).

 

Bizarre reasoning.

Due the math.

 

You stand a greater chance of getting killed by lightning.

[NoshowJones]

On 3/6/2020 at 9:07 PM, EricTh said:

What's the implication of 'show your hands'? I am confused on this.

If they were going to plant any drugs on you, it would have to be in their hand.

[tomauasia]

Your wife should have video them always activate phone ready 

[tomauasia]

They were going to plant drugs. Extortion. Smoking lol. Yes idiot l smoke and what. I talk to them how they treat me. You will see most will fold under back pressure. Always

[tomauasia]

On 3/4/2020 at 8:31 PM, Airalee said:

Where did I say it was racist?

These police are racist and criminals. Need to be flogged 

[whaleboneman]

On 3/4/2020 at 8:59 PM, Nyezhov said:

Dude admit it you were screaming down the road blasting Nickelback and hoovering a fattie.

 

Ride or die.

Not possible-no one listens to Nickelback.

[RocketDog]

On 3/5/2020 at 12:55 PM, steven100 said:

 

so where does it say they tried to plant drugs .... or is he just making that bit up  ??

hmmmm ...  I thought so ..  

You're quibbling or simply ignorant of such a common police tactics in many countries, including USA. 

The inference is clear to anybody well-informed. 

[RocketDog]

On 3/5/2020 at 3:21 PM, Nyezhov said:

Dude you post such childish malarkey spun to make your diatribes look good.

 

What kind of loon shoots to wound? You shoot to stop. You shoot until the danger falls to the ground and drops his weapon. You shoot center of mass to minimize the danger to innocent bystanders. if you had ever had any firearms training, you wouldn't post such silliness.

 

And tell me which police departments in the US are out of control?

Not whole departments, but certainly USA has their share of nut job cops just like any country. 

 

You must be aware of the constant news of cops behaving badly, and often fatally to innocent citizens. 

[gonesouth]

once again all you who say i have been doing this and that for 5.6.7 an so on years... wake up and smell the sh.... your denial of what is really going on is pathetic.....all of you will see in the coming months will see life is not as it was...the gf said show me your hands because thai know how dirty the police are....there are not looking for drug dealers there are the drug dealers....the person you pay to deal....but again all you thailand lovers just can not admit what is true...the good life is gone... maybe you can buy you way not but again the coming months will let you see what others have already seen....

[observer90210]

Had a similar issue during a visit to Hua Hin last year. In a hired chauffeur driven car.

 

After driving say 45 minutes on direction to BKK, get stopped on a long stretch road.

 

The cops look at me, see I am a tourist, a cop rudely asks from where I come and then stops asking questions me.

 

They ask my driver to step out, go behind a sort of a construction or a booth that was on the side of the road.

 

The poor driver came back, took a pouch from the car and went back.

 

Few minutes later came back in the car and drove on. When I asked him, he was a bit embarassed...and plainly said something like "well, this is Thailand and it's like that with the Police"......also remember a restaurant owner in HuaHin mentioning something like THB 5'000,- that was required to be paid to the police per week or per month.

 

Not to mention this guy who was drunk..I mean real dead drunk in a party in BKK. I told him to be careful and take a taxi insted...but of course he left apparently on his bike....when I saw him few days later he admitted having being stopped at a Thai Police checkpoint and made his way thru with a bribe of THB 500,-- ....

 

Such incidents are a disgrace to the whole country.

Edited March 9, 2020 by observer90210

[Nyezhov]

12 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

You must be aware of the constant news of cops behaving badly, and often fatally to innocent citizens. 

Yes I understand that statisticaly, a miniscule numbers of police-civilian contact will go sour.

[millymoopoo]

Solution..! Dashcam, front and rear, front one with back lens showing inside of car too, as we have, point to it and they wave you on.!

[RocketDog]

9 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Yes I understand that statisticaly, a miniscule numbers of police-civilian contact will go sour.

If you are the victim the result is not miniscule. 

 

It's not the number that's important. It's the fact that the cop was trigger happy or simply a sociophobe or sadist. Shooting and killing unarmed people on the ground, or with their hands up, or in their own homes, an autistic kid playing with a toy truck in the street, etc.

Police brutality and abuse is also rising, with such reports appearing on an almost daily basis now. The stories are manifold. It is egregious incompetence if not intentional malice. 

 

What is 'progressive' is the number of such incidents in America. 

 

There needs to be a much higher bar in America for being a cop now. 

 

The RTP here are pussy cats compared to US cops in many big cities. 

[BeltAndRoad]

I've driven many thousands of kilometers in Thailand and have never had any problems with Thai Police.  If they are on edge it is usually because they are looking for someone, if they happen to be looking for a foreigner that day then you are bound to receive extra scrutiny. Remember alot of serious international crime is committed in Thailand by foreign actors.  Also Thai Police will disrespect you if your in the company of what clearly is a "working girl" was your girlfriend covered in make up and wearing not much more than underwear that day?

[mikeymike100]

On 3/5/2020 at 2:20 PM, Don Mega said:

The planting drugs part. Iam still seeing where that was posted.... Are you possibly telling porky pies ?

Its pretty obvious that being stopped by masked policemen and then asking to search his vehicle, for no good reason doesn't seem suspicious??

 

"The police, then informed me that they would be searching my car.  I said ok, but my girlfriend, wise to their tactics, immediately said “Show me your hands”

 

Thank god she said that.  “show me your hands”.  I never would have thought about asking that.

The officer on the passenger side opemed his hands to show he had nothing, but the one on my side of the car immediately backed away."

 

You don't think that those three sentences are at all strange? Everyone knows that at least 80% of the Thai police are corrupt, from the highest to the lowest. Now the cops aren't going to say, look we are going to plant some 'evidence' in your car so that we can extort some money from you, are they?? Or maybe you believe the Earth is flat and men didn't walk on the Moon??

[Don Mega]

2 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

Its pretty obvious that being stopped by masked policemen and then asking to search his vehicle, for no good reason doesn't seem suspicious??

 

"The police, then informed me that they would be searching my car.  I said ok, but my girlfriend, wise to their tactics, immediately said “Show me your hands”

 

Thank god she said that.  “show me your hands”.  I never would have thought about asking that.

The officer on the passenger side opemed his hands to show he had nothing, but the one on my side of the car immediately backed away."

 

You don't think that those three sentences are at all strange? Everyone knows that at least 80% of the Thai police are corrupt, from the highest to the lowest. Now the cops aren't going to say, look we are going to plant some 'evidence' in your car so that we can extort some money from you, are they?? Or maybe you believe the Earth is flat and men didn't walk on the Moon??

The earth aint flat and the moon landing is fake.

[Nyezhov]

2 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

It's not the number that's important.

Yes. It is.

 

Life in its very essence implies something is going to happen. That something can be good, bad or neutral. So the question is not whether an interpersonal contact can go bad within the context of a power relationship involving all kinds of psychological triggers and behaviors, but rather, how often does it go  bad. Better one death as a tragedy, than millions as a statistic, to twist Iosefs quip.

[Nyezhov]

7 minutes ago, BeltAndRoad said:

was your girlfriend covered in make up and wearing not much more than underwear that day?

Geez, Ive never seen her in less than some T-Shirt style top and jeans. Some guys can get Thai gfs that havent been pincushions in Nana

[Ebumbu]

Guess I better carry around med cert when coming back from pharmacy. I'll make a scan. Thanks.

[toofarnorth]

On 3/4/2020 at 7:40 PM, Lacessit said:

It's fairly well known in Thailand drug smugglers drive expensive cars. Beemers, Mercs, high end pickups. The police at the checkpoint were targeting them.

I've been driving a 2006 Toyota Vios for about 6 years now. Get waved through every time.

My Vios is about the same age and I too get waved through every check point.  Will see what it is like when I go on the Forza for my 90 day report tomorrow at Maesai Imm.

[BeltAndRoad]

3 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Geez, Ive never seen her in less than some T-Shirt style top and jeans. Some guys can get Thai gfs that havent been pincushions in Nana

Never said guys cant get "gfs that havent been pincushions in Nana" has the subject "touched a nerve" with you?

[Lacessit]

6 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Yes. It is.

 

Life in its very essence implies something is going to happen. That something can be good, bad or neutral. So the question is not whether an interpersonal contact can go bad within the context of a power relationship involving all kinds of psychological triggers and behaviors, but rather, how often does it go  bad. Better one death as a tragedy, than millions as a statistic, to twist Iosefs quip.

What are we TV denizens to do? The off-the-wall poster of the most florid verbiage ever to froth over on a thread is posting sage philosophy. I'm gobsmacked.

[Nyezhov]

13 minutes ago, BeltAndRoad said:

Never said guys cant get "gfs that havent been pincushions in Nana" has the subject "touched a nerve" with you?

Not really dude, I live in Cambodia and I rent gfs  all the time. I like pincushions, how bout you?

 

12 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The off-the-wall poster of the most florid verbiage ever to froth over on a thread is posting sage philosophy.

Im crazy, not stupid.

[Cheesekraft]

you were potentially a few unnoticed seconds and an idle flick of an officer's hand from having your life ruined.

[CH1961]

On 3/4/2020 at 7:25 PM, Airalee said:

That’s enough to make someone suspicious

Only if you are under 30 and watching to many US movies. 

[Ondral]

"I looked around and one thing I noticed about the cars that were pulled over was that they were nice cars.  No Civics or Camrys.   Just higher end cars with respectable looking people." 

 

I don't understand what you are saying.  Civics and Camrys are very nice cars.  Please tell me what you think is a "nice" car.

 

[pagan1]

This thread is a perfect example where some people see a glass half full and others see a glass half empty. Over the years I have been waved through hundreds of checkpoints with no issues. 99% of the time I expect no problems because i am doing nothing wrong. 1% of the time I may have had a couple of extra beers but get waved through. If I got caught (as a friend of mine recently did) there are consequences (as with any country) but there is the potential to resolve the problem on the roadside. The only times (three) I have been fined have all been justified and dealt with by receipt. As a result I have few concerns or complaints about the Thai police and always expect the best.

Conversly a fried of mine always believes the worst of a situation. He has never had a problem with the Thai police but like the OP believes that they are all out to get him. His take on this thread would be that all the Thai Police plant drugs on every foreigner at every checkpoint throughout Thailand. Further he would tell all in the bar that he read this thread and because a Thai GF of the OP thought there might be a problem with the police searching the car then the police must have been about to plant drugs.......and so the Chinese whisper starts amongst the half empty brigade.

I have a fairly statistical mind. If the planting of drugs is so prevalent why do we not see a host of posts or court cases of innocent expats and tourists complaining on this forum weekly or at least monthly (or perhaps someone can show me a 'first party' thread in the past three years where this situation has occured ). 

i feel sorry for the glass half empty brigade (old women who gossip like fishwives) They must either live in fear of everyday life ...everyone's out to get me, kill me, rip me off  ..... or spend all their time in a safe falang bar with like minded souls when not playing the keyboard warrior. 

We are in Thailand, our glass is half full. If you think yours is half empty ....Zip up and Zip off (as the great Mancunian poet John Cooper Clarke would say)

[BeltAndRoad]

6 minutes ago, pagan1 said:

Conversly a fried of mine always believes the worst of a situation. He has never had a problem with the Thai police but like the OP believes that they are all out to get him.

 

People love "Fear Porn".  I think Thai cops are great. They aren't going to fine me a days wage for forgetting to indicate or travelling at 3km over the speed limit as they do in my country of birth.

[SiSePuede419]

I got stopped at a checkpoint a couple weeks ago.

 

The officer asked me where I was going?

 

I replied in Thai "home".  He laughed and waved me through.

 

But good tip about the hands trick.

 

They used to do that in Oklahoma in America (plant drugs in your car, arrest you and then confiscate your car and sell it at auction and use the money to buy doughnuts), because fat, <deleted> pigs. ✓

[Happy Grumpy]

On 3/4/2020 at 7:16 PM, Don Mega said:

they search and found nothing.......... whats the point of this post ?

Yeah, I went to Hua Hin and got pulled-off.

 

That was much more interesting.