Phuket Immigration confirms B500 a day overstay fines are being levied

[PumpkinEater]

We are getting overstay 30 days, with should have been as easy a pie, but unfortunately with complex restrictions (letters from embassy) etc. makes it an arduous procedure.

I dont think 30 days will be enough because even if you get that 30 days...flights will not resume until at least 35 days if things go well.

 

A better Idea is to eliminate these crazy border bounces, and simply require our local embassies to check our passports (visa stamp), and issue a 60 day “red corona stamp” to its citizens.

Our embassies should be working with the Thai immigration on this and provide this information. 

This would eliminate huge lines at IO and make each embassy responsible for its citizens.

Edited March 24, 2020 by PumpkinEater
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[Billthekiwi]

5 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

Might as well just round up all the foreigners and put them in a concentration camp

Our embassies are worthless too, they should be putting some serious diplomatic and even military pressure on these goons

Hi,

My embassy is worthless. I sent them a request for help and advice close to a week ago. Nothing. Nada.

Also sent NZ Immigration a request for advice etc. Again nothing.

 

My country it seems has cut me adrift.

[AntipodeanThai]

The Australian Government is providing welfare payments of at least $1,100 a fortnight to people caught up in the country and overstaying by the virus plus medical, rent  and other benefits which makes it a lot more. Quite a contrast to the action in Phuket... perhaps Thai nationals in OZ should be banned from getting it all!

Edited March 24, 2020 by AntipodeanThai
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[ThaiBunny]

2 minutes ago, AntipodeanThai said:

The Australian Government is providing welfare payments of at least $1,100 a fortnight to people caught up in the country and overstaying by the virus plus medical, rent  and other benefits which makes it a lot more. Quite a contrast to the action in Phuket... perhaps Thai nationals in OZ should be banned from getting it all!

Link?

[Caldera]

By asking foreigners to continue to attend and officers to continue to work at overcrowded immigration offices, they are knowingly endangering lives. Other countries have put measures in place to deal with immigration matters either online or later on. I hope Thailand will follow suit.

 

Edited March 24, 2020 by Caldera

[ThailandRyan]

14 minutes ago, Toany said:

Soon an immigration officer will get Covid-19.  Then they will have to close the office and clean it.  Or, some poor foreigner will catch it and report it on social media.  Then the immigration office will become the centre for spreading the virus like the boxing stadium.

Will they never look ahead?

They have never been proactive, always reactive, and well after the time to react was Now, not later.

[mickymouse1]

12 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

In all fairness this could not be as bad as being made out  - IF - you can get an extension as you cannot leave the country due to flights being cancelled, meaning you are overstaying. Hitting people for not re-applying for a visa when it would be given for free potentially due to virus could just be punishing stupidity. Course it would be shocking to be fined for being unable to get a 'virus' extension due to immigration shutting and being hit 

1900tb extension

[ThaiBunny]

1 minute ago, Caldera said:

By asking foreigners to continue to attend and officers to continue to work at overcrowded immigration offices, they are knowingly endangering lives. Other countries have put measures in place to deal with immigration matters either online or later on. I hope Thailand will follow suit.

If you want to see government stupidity in action, check the stories from Australia about the hundreds of people queuing at Centrelink offices to register for unemployment benefits - something that (unbelievably) can't be done online unless you're in the minority and are already receiving benefits of one kind or another

[justin case]

maybe this is, who knows, a tactic to spread corona even more among farangs, which they later can blame for super spreading

 

wait, who came from italy to lumpini ?

[bender92]

12 hours ago, SpanishExpat said:

not only tourists. Once that horror has finished, many long-term expats treated like sh** will rethink to stay here. Thai-farang couples may prefer to pass all the hurdles to enable the Thai wifes to move back to the husbands home country and just visit LOS for holidays. 

 

No one expects to be able to stay 1month+ on overstays for free, but in this special situation they could make an exception for lets say 7-10 days (in addition to the anyway 7 day denied exempt stamp which costs 1900 THB). It`s up to a few morons in BKK to pass that order nationwide. Everything can be done within one day, but what you expect from guys who just have "military, military" in their pea-sized brains.

I've lived here 18 years with no problems. 

[Ventenio]

Social distancing is only for the locals, let the farangs get sick!!!!

 

Hopefully we all have a brain, use it.  We are not wanted, period.  What will be the final straw?  taking all your money, house, health, visa, what?

 

look in the mirror, go find a map......find somewhere else.  why bang your head against the wall everyday.   things are getting worse.  

[JDGRUEN]

Just for added emphasis as to why for those who need to make a border run it is not possible. 

Lao - cannot buy an entry Visa to Lao anywhere. Shut down

Cambodia - citizens of the USA and 5-6 more Countries barred entry 5

Myanmar - borders closed

Malaysia - closed - then yesterday

        Thailand closed all border crossings into Malaysian. Thai and Foreigners in Thailand cannot leave Thailand via a Malaysia border crossing. Of course Malaysia has already closed their Malay / Thai Border. So it is now double closed.

Vietnam - Closed to all foreigners 

And on and on 

Flying out - dicey... 

 

 

[milesinnz]

Just make sure as many people as possible know this... so that when things come back to normal, they will be crossing Thailand off as a destination.. it is very hard to accumulate goodwill, but it can be destroyed in an instant...

[Farangwithaplan]

12 hours ago, Toany said:

Money comes before anything else to the government.

If the tourists have a long memory, they will never returm

A couple of thousand tourists paying 500 Baht a day for breaking the immigration law is not the kind of figures a Treasury thinks about in their National budgets.

 

Maybe these people should have taken the situation seriously and done something well before this time instead of doing nothing and now becoming a burden on the already pressured Thai Government systems.

 

The ignorance and selfishness being shown in these times in all countries is astounding.

 

[AntipodeanThai]

18 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said:

Link?

Try myGov

[ThaiBunny]

Just now, AntipodeanThai said:

Try myGov

You'll need a more specific link than that. All MyGov mentions is a $550/week supplement, kicking in late April, for those in Australia who have lost their job as a result of the shutdown

[AntipodeanThai]

12 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said:

If you want to see government stupidity in action, check the stories from Australia about the hundreds of people queuing at Centrelink offices to register for unemployment benefits - something that (unbelievably) can't be done online unless you're in the minority and are already receiving benefits of one kind or another

Your statements are totally incorrect sorry. Over the weekend the Centrelink system was upgraded to handle 55,000 from 5,000 actoins at a time and is being further upgraded. People can apply online and receive benefits for yesterday nd the Government has actively been promoting that and advising applicants NOT to queue but to do it that way. Additionally, an extra 5,000 call centre staff are being addd. Research first place.

[pixelaoffy]

A pandemic doesn't stop the opportunity to take money from farang! Just as scamming will increase in the the Land of S*****

[Ventenio]

3 minutes ago, Farangwithaplan said:

The ignorance and selfishness being shown in these times in all countries is astounding.

What if I told you 99% of these people were in self-isolation for their entire "holiday," while the rest were on work permits?????

 

so maybe they were being unselfish and saving lives, until they were forced to immigration.

 

 

[AntipodeanThai]

5 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said:

You'll need a more specific link than that. All MyGov mentions is a $550/week supplement, kicking in late April, for those in Australia who have lost their job as a result of the shutdown

Sorry not here to nor do I have the time to do your homework. Go to the Government sites like Centrelink or press statements. Yes of course you have to be in Australia to get it, and NO , your statement again about late April is again wrong,  its starts the day you register and yes you have to have lost your job or for foreigners not have means of support and can not leave . As there are no flights thats a give me.

Edited March 24, 2020 by AntipodeanThai

[from the home of CC]

10 hours ago, Psimbo said:

Finally- something to divert thaigeezers outrage away from the Beemers. ????

 

Ever think that some people (like those annoying 'French' lady parts on PCXs) may be trying to use the current problems as an excuse to overstay or just fade into the background?  People overstaying on purpose and people who are not extending visas are just taking a chance. There is a system coming into play to assist people with genuine problems but its not going to kick in overnight, as seen by the big queues at Phuket Immigration today.

 

Spare a thought for the coal face officers having to deal with nationals from a whole hodgepodge of countries- they are just trying to process people as they have been told to do. I would be surly at times as well dealing with some of the people I see in the Phuket Office.

 

Two sides to every argument but genuine overstayers have no reason not to expect to be punished.

I agree, everyone had plenty of notice of this pandemic was going to happen and I do believe probably more than 90% people are trying to use a health crisis to remain here illegally knowing their own countries are already getting trashed by this disease. imo  a totally disgusting behavior and warranting an even larger fine. Sure, lets all increase a load on a country that will have enough of its own problems, selfish d***heads..  

Edited March 24, 2020 by from the home of CC

[ThaiBunny]

17 minutes ago, AntipodeanThai said:

Your statements are totally incorrect sorry. Over the weekend the Centrelink system was upgraded to handle 55,000 from 5,000 actoins at a time and is being further upgraded. People can apply online and receive benefits for yesterday nd the Government has actively been promoting that and advising applicants NOT to queue but to do it that way. Additionally, an extra 5,000 call centre staff are being addd. Research first place.

Try reading the Australian papers from yesterday online before you rush into print. As well, the relevant minister has apologised this morning for yesterday's chaos, saying it was his fault - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-24/centrelink-minister-stuart-robert-not-anticipate-coronavirus/12080612

 

As well it is NOT possible to apply online unless you already have a Centrelink CRN. A Centrelink CRN is not the same as a MyGov ID and you cannot create a Centrelink CRN via a MyGov login, incredible though that sounds. MyGov is merely a portal

Edited March 24, 2020 by ThaiBunny

[soalbundy]

12 hours ago, Toany said:

Money comes before anything else to the government.

If the tourists have a long memory, they will never returm

This happens worldwide, look at USA, Trump wants people back at work already, keep the production going, sod the virus, sod your health. This is all about money anywhere, people are worried about their debt payments, rents etc. people don't want to isolate they want their jobs and their wages, business wants its profits back, This is a financial nightmare more than a medical one, the financial basis of companies and countries is at stake. Once the scare has died down the financial catastrophe will be apparent.

[Max69xl]

12 hours ago, Toany said:

Money comes before anything else to the government.

If the tourists have a long memory, they will never returm

If tourists were smart,they don't travel during a Coronavirus breakout. No one forced them here.

[raccos21]

They always want to find a way to make money. It sounds like the end of the tourism industry here. Soon or later it’s going to be an isolated country to travel to.
How much do you make at the end of the day you can’t take them with you.

[Parsve]

4 hours ago, Chazar said:

so why are they insisting their Thai nationals outside of  Thailand also provide health certs to get back in and denying them without it

The thai gouvernment and IO have really make the whole thing a mess. My wifes soon, 100 % Thai, was to go back to Thailand from working in Nigeria. They where 20 thais working on the same place who should leave. They where stopped of this new demand and have to stay over the weekend until the Thai Embassy open. They get there aand get there documents. Eight of them was able to leave for Thailand yesterday, before Nigeria shut down. The eight Thais had worked together for the same company and have exactly the same documents, issued the same day of the same Thai embassy. 

 

This morning they arrived to Suvarnabumi. For two  of those eight there was no problem. The other six, among them my wifes son, was taken away by the IO who claimed they did not had the right documents!

Edited March 24, 2020 by Parsve
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[Christie Paul]

There's no injury so cruel as that which is self inflicted. 

 

 

[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, Snow Leopard said:

Most Thais hate these parasites as much as farangs do. 

That's certainly been my experience, with every Thai that my wife knows. And she knows plenty.

[bestie]

6 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

I agree, everyone had plenty of notice of this pandemic was going to happen and I do believe probably more than 90% people are trying to use a health crisis to remain here illegally knowing their own countries are already getting trashed by this disease. imo  a totally disgusting behavior and warranting an even larger fine.. 

Hi, do you have any proof that 90% want to abuse the system? I think they only want to stay save and given them 30Days with or without an embassy letter would not such big deal. And this would relax this situation and that would mean that they would spend their money here. But They will not sitting on the beach or drinking in bars. They will be locked in their room anyway. But let them run to the immigration is not a very smart move. I guess we will see a raise in heart attacks by many old farangs these days.

[Torrens54]

Sort of a “Catch 22” situation eh?