Hospital care for foreigners

[banagan]

In the event of hospitalisation, I'm wondering the differences between being Thai and being a foreigner. Cost, level of care...

 

Do you think a hospital would prioritise a Thai patient over a foreigner, where medically the foreigner would have a better chance of survival, for example, younger. Or does it all come down to who can pay? 

 

 

 

[Isaanbiker]

In the event of hospitalisation, I'm wondering the differences between being Thai and being a foreigner. Cost, level of care...

 

If you're talking about a government hospital, Thais will always have a better treatment. Cost, level or care depends on what hospital you chose. 

 

Do you think a hospital would prioritise a Thai patient over a foreigner, where medically the foreigner would have a better chance of survival, for example, younger. Or does it all come down to who can pay? 

 

   If I were a Thai, I'd prioritize them to a guy who I can hardly communicate with. Unfortunately, do too many foreigners believe that they are better. They are not. 

 

    If you go to one of these real expensive hospitals, you can easily lose a million habt if it's something serious.

 

  If you'd bribe a doctor to have an extra eye on you, yes you could have a much better treatment. But please don't't bet on it.

 

 

 

   

[bartolo57]

Looks like it is betetr to stay safe and virus free. 

[colinneil]

14 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said:

In the event of hospitalisation, I'm wondering the differences between being Thai and being a foreigner. Cost, level of care...

 

If you're talking about a government hospital, Thais will always have a better treatment. Cost, level or care depends on what hospital you chose. 

 

Do you think a hospital would prioritise a Thai patient over a foreigner, where medically the foreigner would have a better chance of survival, for example, younger. Or does it all come down to who can pay? 

 

   If I were a Thai, I'd prioritize them to a guy who I can hardly communicate with. Unfortunately, do too many foreigners believe that they are better. They are not. 

 

    If you go to one of these real expensive hospitals, you can easily lose a million habt if it's something serious.

 

  If you'd bribe a doctor to have an extra eye on you, yes you could have a much better treatment. But please don't't bet on it.

 

 

 

   

I didnt bribe a doctor, or anybody else, yet a received first class treatment/ care in a government hospital.

Communication with doctors/ nurses, not a problem.

[banagan]

4 minutes ago, bartolo57 said:

Looks like it is betetr to stay safe and virus free. 

Thats the plan B.A.

[DrTuner]

It would probably always be government hospitals. From what I've read, private hospitals are very unkeen on taking covid patients and they'd be transferred to government hospitals.

[banagan]

Just now, colinneil said:

I didnt bribe a doctor, or anybody else, yet a received first class treatment/ care in a government hospital.

Communication with doctors/ nurses, not a problem.

Good to hear. Do you mind me asking, for the China Virus?

 

If things got to Italy levels though...

 

[sirineou]

Well think about it.

You are in your home country and you have a decision to make,. You only have one ventilator and two patients, of equal health and age, One is Your countryman and the other one is a foreigner. Not only a foreigner but a foreigner who always looks down or you, and talks bad about you at every opportunity.

Which one would you choose??I say the foreigner is screwed.  

 

[DrTuner]

1 minute ago, sirineou said:

Well think about it.

You are in your home country and you have a decision to make,. You only have one ventilator and two patients, of equal health and age, One is Your countryman and the other one is a foreigner. Not only a foreigner but a foreigner who always looks down or you, and talks bad about you at every opportunity.

Which one would you choose??I say the foreigner is screwed.  

Keep a stack of baht notes glued to an envelope on your body. That trumps any patriotism.

[banagan]

2 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Not only a foreigner but a foreigner who always looks down or you, and talks bad about you at every opportunity.

 

Well I'd hope the doctor is not a racist bigot. I'd hope that he'd consider what would happen to one of his countrymen, if they were in the same position, in my country. 

[banagan]

12 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

It would probably always be government hospitals. From what I've read, private hospitals are very unkeen on taking covid patients and they'd be transferred to government hospitals.

First I've heard of this. Do you have any links? 

[sirineou]

1 minute ago, banagan said:

Well I'd hope the doctor is not a racist bigot. I'd hope that he'd consider what would happen to one of his countrymen, if they were in the same position, in my country. 

Hope is a good breakfast but a bad supper.

*W. Rawley
 

[DrTuner]

8 minutes ago, banagan said:

First I've heard of this. Do you have any links? 

I'll dig. It was in the TVF threads about Bamrasnaradura, where it was mentioned people with confirmed infections would be sent to government hospitals. Was about 2-3 weeks back so might take some time.

 

EDIT: ok google produced a better hit, but it's in Bangkok Post that I'm not allowed to link to. Search Google for 'Hundreds of hospital beds readied'. You will find that there's supposed to be a "gentleman's agreement" with MoPH and private hospitals on them taking on covid patients. That's in response to complaints about being turned away. I don't think I've ever met a gentleman in Thailand.

Edited March 31, 2020 by DrTuner

[banagan]

38 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

I'll dig. It was in the TVF threads about Bamrasnaradura, where it was mentioned people with confirmed infections would be sent to government hospitals. Was about 2-3 weeks back so might take some time.

 

EDIT: ok google produced a better hit, but it's in Bangkok Post that I'm not allowed to link to. Search Google for 'Hundreds of hospital beds readied'. You will find that there's supposed to be a "gentleman's agreement" with MoPH and private hospitals on them taking on covid patients. That's in response to complaints about being turned away. I don't think I've ever met a gentleman in Thailand.

Found it. "gentleman's agreement" what's that supposed to mean?

 

Edited March 31, 2020 by banagan

[Enzian]

I've had to research a number of private and public hospitals for a condition I have, and I found they differ greatly. And doctors and individual departments/specialties differ. I know everyone generalizes that private are better, but it is not that simple and you have to do the legwork and even trial and error.

[DrTuner]

4 minutes ago, banagan said:

Found it. "gentleman's agreement" what's that supposed to mean?

I suppose something like this:

[colinneil]

8 hours ago, banagan said:

Good to hear. Do you mind me asking, for the China Virus?

 

If things got to Italy levels though...

 

No mate, it was 6 years ago, in hospital for 7 months.

[RJRS1301]

As a matter of medical ethics, given that there is sufficient equipment, medical knowledge, resources,skilled professionals will treat each equally. Irrespective of age, gender or nationality.

 

I await the poor response from some with slanted values about the country

 

[Destiny1990]

8 hours ago, sirineou said:

Well think about it.

You are in your home country and you have a decision to make,. You only have one ventilator and two patients, of equal health and age, One is Your countryman and the other one is a foreigner. Not only a foreigner but a foreigner who always looks down or you, and talks bad about you at every opportunity.

Which one would you choose??I say the foreigner is screwed.  

 

 

Well here most likely that Doctor will give his last ventilator to that farang patient simply because they can tripple their price for such patients !! 

Edited March 31, 2020 by Destiny1990

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19 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

 

Well here most likely that Doctor will give his last ventilator to that farang patient simply because they can tripple their price for such patients !! 

Everyone who is at risk for the virus, have the money, buy yourselves a emergency respirator! Case closed

[Curt1591]

9 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

If you go to one of these real expensive hospitals, you can easily lose a million habt if it's something serious.

However, if you were going in for the same care in a hospital in your homeland, you can easily "lose" much more.

I spent 900,000 baht (insurance covered) on a procedure at BKK Hospital. It was performed with a huge staff attending, recovered a couple nights in a private room outfitted like a 4 star hotel including a mini bar (no alcohol). 

Since the surgeon has an identical clinic in the US, I asked him how it compared to the same procedure Stateside. He said the staff would be much smaller, less equipment, and I would recover in a multi-patient ward. It would be billed out at close to $100,000 (3 million baht).

[baansgr]

Do you really need to even ask this question, the answer is obvious. Its not the NHS you know.

[barryofthailand]

If your a foreigner and you don't have insurance you better go home

[Guderian]

1 hour ago, barryofthailand said:

If your a foreigner and you don't have insurance you better go home

How?

I need to get back to the UK by August/September, but I'm not at all certain anybody will be flying by then.

I read that cargo ships can take up to 12 passengers, maybe that would be the answer, a few months at sea safely away from the rampaging virus.

It's  bit late to start hitch-hiking, anyway!

[samsensam]

17 hours ago, DrTuner said:

It would probably always be government hospitals. From what I've read, private hospitals are very unkeen on taking covid patients and they'd be transferred to government hospitals.

 

quite a statement, evidence, from a reputable source, please

[topt]

8 minutes ago, Guderian said:

How?

I need to get back to the UK by August/September, but I'm not at all certain anybody will be flying by then.

I understand flights are still running - all be it at exorbitant prices......British Ambassador has apparently just posted (another thread) that you should get yourself back now or be prepared to stay for the long haul - but you knew that anyway 

[1FinickyOne]

17 hours ago, sirineou said:

I say the foreigner is screwed.

I think from some of the posts I see here that many would rather get screwed than have decent medical care... 

[1FinickyOne]

11 minutes ago, samsensam said:

 

quite a statement, evidence, from a reputable source, please

are we on the same forum here?

[atyclb]

8 hours ago, Curt1591 said:

However, if you were going in for the same care in a hospital in your homeland, you can easily "lose" much more.

I spent 900,000 baht (insurance covered) on a procedure at BKK Hospital. It was performed with a huge staff attending, recovered a couple nights in a private room outfitted like a 4 star hotel including a mini bar (no alcohol). 

Since the surgeon has an identical clinic in the US, I asked him how it compared to the same procedure Stateside. He said the staff would be much smaller, less equipment, and I would recover in a multi-patient ward. It would be billed out at close to $100,000 (3 million baht).

 amorn poomee ??

[rickudon]

How many respirators in Thailand? I think the answer is not nearly enough. And is the government procuring more?