Ending Chiang Mai's self-quarantine and shut-down

[worgeordie]

I had to go to Makro for some supplies last Wednesday and it

was chock a block, called into Meechok Plaza to the Bank ,also

people everywhere,so I think the lock down is all but over,don't

know if Police about at night trying to enforce the curfew.

regards Worgeordie

[FolkGuitar]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I think almost everyone in the world is that shallow.

 

There is nothing more needed to hear from you. You've made yourself perfectly clear.

Please stay safe.

[Trujillo]

The media is starting to come around the the actual situation, that this new virus, while serious, isn't the end of the world sort of scenario that modelers and those susceptible to news manipulation first thought. 

Models, for example, which had already figured in social spacing and other human measures, had projected deaths of 2.2 million in the US alone. Now we are looking at projections of 60,000. Expect that to be revised down as well. 

 

Eighty percent of those who get the Wuhan virus recover without a hospital visit; 90% of those who died with the virus (not necessarily "from") had at least one preexisting condition. 

We know who the susceptible population is, and this has always been available information. 

 

The massive "there's a monster under the bed!" global reaction aside, moving forward we have to look at the actual numbers and protect the vulnerable segments of society as we can within reason (that's the key point, "within reason"). 

As of April 16th, there were nine provinces in Thailand that never had a case; and 25 provinces with no new cases in 14 days. 

The total death toll from the virus is about 0.00005 percent of the total population. 

 

So, continuing to cripple the economy/people's lives with the false notion that "every life saved is worth ANY cost," must be ended. 

How to reopen in Thailand is pretty easy -- just do it. Thais, although they are quite superstitious and under-educated, are a pragmatic people. Anyone can look at the numbers (40 cases out of the 1.75 million population in Chiang Mai province -- cases, not deaths) and conclude that we are attempting to kill a fly in the kitchen by burning down the house. 

 

If individuals think they are going to be infected and want to save the rest of us by wearing a mask and plastic visor and staying at home, please indulge yourself; it's a free country. 

 

Hopefully, Thailand will realize that it's time to relax and get back to normal living before it's too late to actually recover livelihoods.  

 

 

[worgeordie]

If only the Government put this much effort into and took

the burning and road deaths as seriously as they seem to take

this Virus,Thailand would be a much better place.

regards worgeordie

 

[lordblackader]

You know what also kills people? not being able to eat. Where at the point that people are nearly fighting over food at the Thapae Gate. No new cases in 10 days but Mr. rich farang thinks everyone should continue to starve because he watches CNN at home and doesn't understand the difference between Chiang Mai and New York. 

[Trujillo]

No "All Facts" CNN for the OP. 

 

FolkGuitar:

"Might, but I haven't owned a TV in 19 years. "

 

 

[bkk6060]

29 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

There are way too many other more interesting things to do. Recreational, educational, community service, international activities, etc., etc. The list is long.

So, you would do this?

It would seem quite hypocritical and going against your own statement that ending the quarantine is wrong?

 

[Antonymous]

12 minutes ago, Trujillo said:

The media is starting to come around the the actual situation, that this new virus, while serious, isn't the end of the world sort of scenario that modelers and those susceptible to news manipulation first thought. 

Models, for example, which had already figured in social spacing and other human measures, had projected deaths of 2.2 million in the US alone. Now we are looking at projections of 60,000. Expect that to be revised down as well. 

 

Eighty percent of those who get the Wuhan virus recover without a hospital visit; 90% of those who died with the virus (not necessarily "from") had at least one preexisting condition. 

We know who the susceptible population is, and this has always been available information. 

 

The massive "there's a monster under the bed!" global reaction aside, moving forward we have to look at the actual numbers and protect the vulnerable segments of society as we can within reason (that's the key point, "within reason"). 

As of April 16th, there were nine provinces in Thailand that never had a case; and 25 provinces with no new cases in 14 days. 

The total death toll from the virus is about 0.00005 percent of the total population. 

 

So, continuing to cripple the economy/people's lives with the false notion that "every life saved is worth ANY cost," must be ended. 

How to reopen in Thailand is pretty easy -- just do it. Thais, although they are quite superstitious and under-educated, are a pragmatic people. Anyone can look at the numbers (40 cases out of the 1.75 million population in Chiang Mai province -- cases, not deaths) and conclude that we are attempting to kill a fly in the kitchen by burning down the house. 

 

If individuals think they are going to be infected and want to save the rest of us by wearing a mask and plastic visor and staying at home, please indulge yourself; it's a free country. 

 

Hopefully, Thailand will realize that it's time to relax and get back to normal living before it's too late to actually recover livelihoods.  

 

 

Excellent comment. Worth repeating ????

[1FinickyOne]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

If you were paying to live in my house you could do what you like,

You don't mean that... but surely you do mean within the realm of decent behavior... according to you. 

 

personally, I would skip rent and move out... 

[BritManToo]

11 minutes ago, kenk24 said:

You don't mean that... but surely you do mean within the realm of decent behavior... according to you. 

I wouldn't want you to do something that put me at risk with the authorities.

But if you were paying enough, beyond that, I wouldn't care.

 

Back to the shopkeeper,

Shopkeepers want people to spend as much money as they can, then leave as quickly as they can so there's room for more customers. If you allow any other considerations to enter into your business, you probably aren't suited to being a shopkeeper.

 

Customers .......

What you wear, doesn't matter.

How you smell, doesn't matter as long as it doesn't put other customers off.

Your religion, don't care.

Your skin colour, as long as you have the money, you can buy.

language skills, irrelevant, I can show you my calculator.

Edited April 18, 2020 by BritManToo

[FolkGuitar]

23 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

So, you would do this?

It would seem quite hypocritical and going against your own statement that ending the quarantine is wrong?

 

 

Is your thinking so narrow that you can't imagine recreational activities, educational activities , and community services that don't involve endangering others in the community? Perhaps Britman was right... how very shallow!

[1FinickyOne]

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Shopkeepers want people to spend as much money as they can, then leave as quickly as they can

In most tourist areas, probably correct... not in normal village life and small city in Central Thailand... the proprietors are neighbors and friends who want you to enjoy your time there and return too... 

 

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

But if you were paying enough, beyond that, I wouldn't care.

As Henny Youngman used to say, ..... "Take my wife. Please."

[CGW]

43 minutes ago, ricklev said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/technology/bill-gates-virus-conspiracy-theories.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Bill spends his money wisely, a lot goes into promoting himself, NYT obviously a recipient of his benevolence?

Try this one, never made it to the MSM and off course the NYT would never post as would hurt their advertisers, written by one of the Kennedys

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/government-corruption/gates-globalist-vaccine-agenda-a-win-win-for-pharma-and-mandatory-vaccination/

[Rimmer]

Closed per OP request