Police checkpoint harrasement

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

6 hours ago, kralledr said:

s this a new was to try escorting money?

in this dangerous times, it is highly reccomended to carry your 

passport with you at all times.

thailand is still friendly, and thai police still respect farang.

if you want to know how bad it can get, you can have a look at china - foreigners

are being forced into quarantine, being dragged out of their apartments and left

in the street, refused service in hotels condos and restaurants.

the police are going hard enough job under extrta stress, so carrying

a passport will help them - and you.

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

6 hours ago, kralledr said:

YOu got me qrong guys..

 

 

I just wonder if i did wrong or not?..

 

you took an unneccasary risk.

the police could easily arrest you, for refusing their orders or just to confirm

that you don't need quarantine as a new arrival, than lock you in jail 

with other infected people and than what?

propably what saved you was your wife and child in the car, and the 

virus that makes police hesitate to arrest people due to lack of space in jail.

just carry your passport at all times and try to be kind, yes, also to thai police.

 

[torturedsole]

I've never had a problem with the RTP or any other Thai authority.  

 

First rule of RTP fight club is to relax.  Second rule is to relax some more.  Third rule is to engage in talking absolute inane nonsense with your designated RTP officer whilst maintaining a permanent smile.  They love all that and it does blindside them as to their original intention.  It then rapidly dawns on them that they're barking up the wrong tree.  

 

Next thing you know you're being waved on.

[Ventenio]

Today I was at a market, buying fruit.  

 

I can read Thai.  It said 30 baht.  She said 40 baht.  

 

I then proceeded to:

 

1.  call the police

2.  call my embassy

3.  call BBC

4.  Drones fully operational, broadcasting worldwide

5.  undercover swat team convergences

6.  World Court papers filed

7.  Defcon 5

8.  I took off my right shoe, signalling moon explosion

9.  right hand, left ear.....  Sun explosion

10.  hulk smash

 

 

[torturedsole]

12 minutes ago, Ventenio said:

10.  hulk smash

#10 went too far.  ????

[RedPill]

Another reason why I avoid Sukhumvit and checkpoints for the past 2-3 weeks.

 

Didn't had one checkpoint yet, only short trips to the local shops and 7/11 and back home.

 

Can't wait for beginning of May ... hopefully we get this situation behind us soon.

 

And when this is all over, it's either a pool party in Pattaya or a rooftop party with hookers in Phuket.

 

Whatever comes first ????

 

 

Edited April 19, 2020 by RedPill

[soi3eddie]

If this was in the centre of Hua Hin around Soi 59-61 area then that was Hua Hin Temple. The police station is actually in Soi 61 and there's a police box on the corner of Soi 61 and Petkasem Road (highway 4) where the cops hang out and target foreigners. I was sat outside the Beach Post Office in Soi 61 last week and witnessed a cop immediately target a westerner on a motorbike as he stopped at the traffic lights (rider was wearing a helmet). It appeared to me that the cop directly targeted him for being a foreigner as there were other bikes around. I didn't see the outcome as I was sat in our car and drove off shortly afterwards.

 

Of all the times I have ever been stopped by police in Thailand over the last 20 years I have NEVER been asked for passport. Only ever driving licence. Something was fishy with your cop's behaviour and I applaud you for your handling of the situation. If they had wanted to stop you from leaving they would have. You made a brave call but it could have gone wrong. Caution is always advised.

 

FWIW: I got stopped and pee tested at an "offical" day-time checkpoint heading south from Phetchaburi to Hua Hin last week - the cops made a half <deleted> attempt at a vehicle search (probably to guage my reaction) and my GF and I were invited to witness them opening the glove box and trunk. I was concerned of something being planted. Then I was given a cup and told to pee and take it to a desk where a dropper was used on 3 different slides for various drug detection. Never was I asked for any ID, Passport or DL. The we were sent on our way. GF was not tested. Do they test only males?

[torturedsole]

2 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

FWIW: I got stopped and pee tested at an "offical" day-time checkpoint heading south from Phetchaburi to Hua Hin last week - the cops made a half <deleted> attempt at a vehicle search (probably to guage my reaction) and my GF and I were invited to witness them opening the glove box and trunk. I was concerned of something being planted. Then I was given a cup and told to pee and take it to a desk where a dropper was used on 3 different slides for various drug detection. Never was I asked for any ID, Passport or DL. The we were sent on our way. GF was not tested. Do they test only males?

Driving from Phetchaburi to Hua Hin last week was the correct week to travel to invite this level of scrutiny.  

 

I'll be honest, the slightest hint of a bad attitude towards the RTP can invoke immediate and unexpected results.  

[soi3eddie]

Just now, torturedsole said:

Driving from Phetchaburi to Hua Hin last week was the correct week to travel to invite this level of scrutiny.  

 

I'll be honest, the slightest hint of a bad attitude towards the RTP can invoke immediate and unexpected results.  

But they weren't checking temperatures or for Covid-19...

[torturedsole]

17 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

But they weren't checking temperatures or for Covid-19...

TiT.  

[Destiny1990]

No pee in a cup ?

[Slip]

2 hours ago, soi3eddie said:

If this was in the centre of Hua Hin around Soi 59-61 area then that was Hua Hin Temple. The police station is actually in Soi 61 and there's a police box on the corner of Soi 61 and Petkasem Road (highway 4) where the cops hang out and target foreigners. I was sat outside the Beach Post Office in Soi 61 last week and witnessed a cop immediately target a westerner on a motorbike as he stopped at the traffic lights (rider was wearing a helmet). It appeared to me that the cop directly targeted him for being a foreigner as there were other bikes around. I didn't see the outcome as I was sat in our car and drove off shortly afterwards.

 

Of all the times I have ever been stopped by police in Thailand over the last 20 years I have NEVER been asked for passport. Only ever driving licence. Something was fishy with your cop's behaviour and I applaud you for your handling of the situation. If they had wanted to stop you from leaving they would have. You made a brave call but it could have gone wrong. Caution is always advised.

 

FWIW: I got stopped and pee tested at an "offical" day-time checkpoint heading south from Phetchaburi to Hua Hin last week - the cops made a half <deleted> attempt at a vehicle search (probably to guage my reaction) and my GF and I were invited to witness them opening the glove box and trunk. I was concerned of something being planted. Then I was given a cup and told to pee and take it to a desk where a dropper was used on 3 different slides for various drug detection. Never was I asked for any ID, Passport or DL. The we were sent on our way. GF was not tested. Do they test only males?

 

2 hours ago, torturedsole said:

Driving from Phetchaburi to Hua Hin last week was the correct week to travel to invite this level of scrutiny.  

 

I'll be honest, the slightest hint of a bad attitude towards the RTP can invoke immediate and unexpected results.  

 

This was probably the well established check point just south of Petchaburi on the highway.  They have been doing this there for years.  They are not interested in passports.  Thais also get checked there frequently.  Sometimes the area around that little police stop resembles a car park as they stop a large proportion of traffic coming through including minibuses and all passengers.  They only check men from the numerous reports I have heard.  

 

It has nothing to do with covid or the attitude of the traveller.

[torturedsole]

1 minute ago, Slip said:

It has nothing to do with covid or the attitude of the traveller.

Careful. I stated that the attitude of the traveller has a direct bearing on the outcome of said interaction at the checkpoint.  Not that the checkpoint was there or not as irrelevant.

[Slip]

1 minute ago, torturedsole said:

Careful. I stated that the attitude of the traveller has a direct bearing on the outcome of said interaction at the checkpoint.  Not that the checkpoint was there or not as irrelevant.

Fair enough.  I was pointing out that this particular checkpoint has nothing to do with the present pandemic and people there will be checked or not regardless of their attitude.  I have never been stopped there, but I know a few people who have and have been tested, and have driven through it when many many people have been randomly pulled.  To be honest it (this particular stop) is probably not relevant to the topic.  It is not harassment of any particular individual; it is a random checkpoint.

[Drax]

9 hours ago, garrya said:

I am actually surprised that a Thai policeman would go this far. 

Never been stopped and never been searched even though I have been seen by thousands of  times.

But regardless, I see no reason to resist. If they want to search you then let them do it.

Do this in the USA or UK and you get arrested brutally in a matter of moments. 

 

Oh they do it all the time arround Ekkamai and phrongpong. They’re quite polite though. They always check id (I show my country ID card), wallet, and pockets. From experience never had anything stole nor issues. It’s rather quick. Suspect theyre looking for drugs usually. 

Edited April 19, 2020 by Drax

[Pilotman]

Another tactic is to tell the cop that you need a good English speaker and you are calling the Tourist Police to help. Have their number on your phone so that you can actaully ask for their help.  That can work too. I did that in Rayong one time when I was faced with a poor English speaking cop.  He then waved me through.  

Edited April 20, 2020 by Pilotman

[norfolkandchance]

20 hours ago, Ventenio said:

Today I was at a market, buying fruit.  

 

I can read Thai.  It said 30 baht.  She said 40 baht.  

 

I then proceeded to:

 

1.  call the police

2.  call my embassy

3.  call BBC

4.  Drones fully operational, broadcasting worldwide

5.  undercover swat team convergences

6.  World Court papers filed

7.  Defcon 5

8.  I took off my right shoe, signalling moon explosion

9.  right hand, left ear.....  Sun explosion

10.  hulk smash

 

 

Item 7 brings back memories.

[drtreelove]

On 4/19/2020 at 3:10 AM, mistral53 said:

Be happy you live in Thailand - in the US the cops stop you on the HWY and ask how much money you carry, if it is a tempting amount, they will take it from you and call it civil asset forfeiture. You then have to fight to get it back, which probably will cost more then the amount confiscated, so most people just hang their heads and be happy they live in the land of the free. It's a multi-billion dollar business for the cops.........

 

Thailand........mehh

Nonsense. What's the rest of the story? Maybe after they found your meth pipe and a fat baggie. 

[mistral53]

8 hours ago, drtreelove said:

Nonsense. What's the rest of the story? Maybe after they found your meth pipe and a fat baggie. 

I wouldn't know that because I am not a drug dealer - you seem to have more insight into that side of the subject matter, so please tell........

 

Just in case you are seriously interested in the subject, here is a place to start........and there is tons more on YT

 

https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-rights/what-is-civil-asset-forfeiture.html

[19DL86]

I guess some of you or maybe more will say I am talking shhhht.  Upto you, but I am not.

 

My routine is, I slow down at the road blocks, stop if instructed, within a second or two I can tell if it's a genuine stop or a "shake down" just by the officers body language or demeanor. If I feel that's the case I drive off slowly methodically and with purpose.  Done so many many times never been chased or had anything to follow this up.

 

If I have to get into any dialogue or debate, I never speak Thai, never switch off the engine, never give them the keys and never get out of the car or anything. I turn my dash camera to them and clearly ask "what do you want. how much?".  Then if there's no answers as above drive away.

 

In 13 years I ve never had a Thai license, not once.  I simply couldn't be assed with the nonsense and Tomfoolery.  I ve a genuine I.D.P from the UK, renewed every year.  Any hassles with this I have a laminated copy translated into Thai, detailing the reciprocal agreements between both Thailand and my country on this agreement t.  Also a letter from my insurance company.

 

Thirteen years honest to God, maybe 2-3 times a 500Bt fine for "you in wrong lane".

[Hideout]

I was stopped in my car as well last week at a checkpoint in Hua Hin and pulled aside away from the others. Had my wife (Thai) and 2 kids with me. They searched some bags I had with me for a few minutes. I had a chat and joke with the cops during the search and then drove off 5 minutes later with no hassles.