Trump says he could bring back fired ex-national security adviser Flynn

[i84teen]

5 hours ago, Sujo said:

I have the poster on ignore due to those types of posts that defy logic. But i see the post if it is quoted, unfortunately.

 

Seems odd that trump wants a guy who he sacked for lying to his vp. He also pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi, so he is a self confessed admitted liar. Should fit in nicely in the whitehouse.

They ALL lie, nothing new. The difference with Flynn is two words "predicated" and "materiality", which means no crime, no investigation, no nothing, so DOJ MUST drop the charges. It's simple basic legal jurisprudence in USA.

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, Langsuan Man said:

Easy, pronounces sentence and the US Marshals take control of the convicted felon and deliver him to the Department of Corrections to serve out his sentence.  You don't seem to understand at this point the DOJ is no longer needed

You think Trump won't pardon him if that happened?

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, stevenl said:

Please revert back to your post I replied to "Trump supporters love truth ..."

Deflecting much?

Anything to say about the case?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Crazy Alex]

5 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

The facts that you presented are to be heard by the federal judge. It was dismissed before. Barr’s legal team claimed to have potential new and exculpatory. They remained potential until the federal judge decide. You ain’t blowing me away with those ‘facts’ as we wait for the judge to rule on the motion. Stay in your seat. 

 

So when the judge accepts the DOJ dropping the case, you'll not say he's a shill for Trump and accept his decision?

[Crazy Alex]

Trump and media downplayed the virus. Liberals only mad at Trump. Doesn't pass the smell test, especially given Trump took action starting on January 31, 2020. Why weren't the liberal media and Democrats speaking up about Trump not doing enough then?

Edited May 9, 2020 by Crazy Alex

[Tippaporn]

10 hours ago, simple1 said:

There are plenty of sources in credible media stating the DoJ decision to drop charges against Flynn is political interference. trump has a track record of attempting to undermine the Rule of Law, Obama's observation will ring true for the majority. trump's comment calling out the FBI prosecution as 'treason done by human scum' is a very low point in US politics, 

 

https://www.thewrap.com/joe-scarborough-trump-calling-fbi-scum-is-low-point-in-u-s-politics/

 

As already mentioned by members we will have to wait and see the judges decision will be in the Flynn case. 

Here it comes . . . the facts of the Flynn case are overwhelming in favour of his innocence and the libs, realizing that they have been duped and no longer have a leg to stand on, claim political interference.  LOL  When they've been proven wrong and extreme denial sets in then their only option is to fabricate an accusation of an entirely baseless charge in order to avoid debating truths which no longer can be debated and change the focus to an argument which they can debate as true forever.

 

So this is what we can now expect from you libs.  If Judge Sullivan dismisses the case and Flynn is exonerated you people will forever claim that Barr, at the behest of Trump, stepped in to interfere with justice and free a guilty Flynn?  LOL

 

Doubt me?  Here's a fact . . . not opinion . . . not one lib poster here has contested the truth of a single stitch of newly revealed evidence.  Take Eric, for instance.  He refused to address all questions I put to him regarding Van Grack's attempts to hide the truth or argue against those facts.  He refused to decry any of the criminal improprieties of the government.  Rather than do so he simply deflected and silently moved on.  But I'm sure he will be on board and very vocal in defense of any made up "political interference" charge that will now surely be levied by all of the MSM media outlets.  The MSM will with certainty follow Obama's, Nadler's and Schiff's lead.  And the libs here will follow along once again, too.  How many times do you people need to be proven wrong before you realize that you're being played?  So very sad.

[candide]

7 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Trump and media downplayed the virus. Liberals only mad at Trump. Doesn't pass the smell test, especially given Trump took action starting on January 31, 2020. Why weren't the liberal media and Democrats speaking up about Trump not doing enough then?

Oh the hypocrisy! 

During weeks, you and the other Trumpers have been criticizing the media hysteria on this forum for creating panic and overstating risk. If you, and Trump, were accusing the media of overstating, they could not be downplaying, right?

 

"28 févr. 2020 · The president seeks to reassure the public while blaming the media and Democrats for trying to score points by exaggerating the threat of the outbreak."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/us/politics/cpac-coronavirus.html

Donald Trump Blames Media Coverage Of Coronavirus For Dow Jones Drop

Misspelling the word “coronavirus,” President Donald Trump lashed out at MSNBC and CNN for their coverage of the outbreak, claiming that they are “doing everything possible” to make the situation “look as bad as possible.

https://deadline.com/2020/02/donald-trump-blames-media-coverage-of-coronavirus-for-dow-jones-drop-1202868771/

[Tippaporn]

11 hours ago, simple1 said:

There are plenty of sources in credible media stating the DoJ decision to drop charges against Flynn is political interference. trump has a track record of attempting to undermine the Rule of Law, Obama's observation will ring true for the majority. trump's comment calling out the FBI prosecution as 'treason done by human scum' is a very low point in US politics, 

 

https://www.thewrap.com/joe-scarborough-trump-calling-fbi-scum-is-low-point-in-u-s-politics/

 

As already mentioned by members we will have to wait and see the judges decision will be in the Flynn case. 

Let's look at your reply from another perspective, simple1.

 

In the court of public opinion, of which this forum is a part, anything goes.  Anything can be entered into this court.  From absolute truth to the most outlandish theories imaginable.  There is no judge in the public court.  No one is required to produce proof of any claim.  Hence any argument can be argued endlessly for all of eternity.  Remember, we are in a court of public opinion where opinions and facts can be made to have equal standing.

 

In the court of law anything can also be entered into the court.  In a court of law, though, anything entered must be supported by fact.  You may, for instance, enter in the argument that charges of Flynn were dropped due to political interference.  You will, though, be required to provide conclusive evidence of your charge.  If you fail to do so you will not be allowed to endlessly argue it.  You have a judge who will prevent you from doing so based on just legal requirements.  The just legal requirement is "put up or shut up."  We are in a court of law where opinions and facts do not have equal standing.

 

Your "credible" media sources are in fact not credible at all.  They are in truth opinions based on only a subset of all of the available facts.  These opinions are conclusions drawn using only those facts which are in agreement, or in support of the desired conclusion.  Those facts which counter the conclusion are left out.  This is precisely the process used by your "credible" media sources.  It is also the process used by Obama, Nadler and Schiff as they make their "political interference" charge without providing any conclusive evidence which would be required to be upheld in a court of law and purposely leave out any and all facts which would destroy their "conclusions."  In my opinion, libs don't understand the above and get burned each and every time, over and over and over again.

 

The facts in the Flynn case justifiably exonerate him.  The charge of political interference used to trump those facts can be attempted but will fail as soon as proof of it is required to be produced and shown to negate all other facts.  It ain't going to happen.

[Tippaporn]

20 minutes ago, candide said:

Oh the hypocrisy! 

During weeks, you and the other Trumpers have been criticizing the media hysteria on this forum for creating panic and overstating risk. If you, and Trump, were accusing the media of overstating, they could not be downplaying, right?

 

"28 févr. 2020 · The president seeks to reassure the public while blaming the media and Democrats for trying to score points by exaggerating the threat of the outbreak."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/us/politics/cpac-coronavirus.html

Donald Trump Blames Media Coverage Of Coronavirus For Dow Jones Drop

Misspelling the word “coronavirus,” President Donald Trump lashed out at MSNBC and CNN for their coverage of the outbreak, claiming that they are “doing everything possible” to make the situation “look as bad as possible.

https://deadline.com/2020/02/donald-trump-blames-media-coverage-of-coronavirus-for-dow-jones-drop-1202868771/

This is not the thread for discussing the Chinese Wuhan virus response.

[stevenl]

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Deflecting much?

 

Better tell that the poster I replied to. 

[Tippaporn]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

  

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Deflecting much?

Anything to say about the case?

 

Better tell that the poster I replied to. 

LOL.  Here's you're original quote which I replied to:

  

16 hours ago, stevenl said:

18,000 plus lies and with a straight face you claim trump supporters love truth. They don't care about truth or lies as long as they like it would be much more accurate.

You're implying with that statement that you love the truth and are pointing out our supposed hypocrisy.

 

My reply was:

  

15 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Who's promoting lies about Flynn on this thread and who's promoting the truth?  I won't name names but they're all found in this thread.

Since lies about Flynn are being promoted here by the libs, and since you implied that you libs love the truth, then I'm merely putting you face to face with your own hypocrisy.

 

How is that deflection?  Care to explain (rationally)?

 

And, BTW, thaibeachlovers asked if you had anything to say about the Flynn case, you know, the topic of this thread.  Do you?  Or will you deflect away from his question by ignoring it?

 

Thus far I'd say you ain't looking too good here, steven.  Keep trying, though.

[stevenl]

9 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

LOL.  Here's you're original quote which I replied to:

  

You're implying with that statement that you love the truth and are pointing out our supposed hypocrisy.

 

My reply was:

  

Since lies about Flynn are being promoted here by the libs, and since you implied that you libs love the truth, then I'm merely putting you face to face with your own hypocrisy.

 

How is that deflection?  Care to explain (rationally)?

 

And, BTW, thaibeachlovers asked if you had anything to say about the Flynn case, you know, the topic of this thread.  Do you?  Or will you deflect away from his question by ignoring it?

 

Thus far I'd say you ain't looking too good here, steven.  Keep trying, though.

Now please include the first post regarding this I replied to, the one where you said that as long as Trump keeps telling the truth you will keep supporting him.

 

And no, it wasn't me that said 'you're implying ... supposed hypocrisy'.

Edited May 9, 2020 by stevenl

[Crazy Alex]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Oh the hypocrisy! 

During weeks, you and the other Trumpers have been criticizing the media hysteria on this forum for creating panic and overstating risk. If you, and Trump, were accusing the media of overstating, they could not be downplaying, right?

 

"28 févr. 2020 · The president seeks to reassure the public while blaming the media and Democrats for trying to score points by exaggerating the threat of the outbreak."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/us/politics/cpac-coronavirus.html

Donald Trump Blames Media Coverage Of Coronavirus For Dow Jones Drop

Misspelling the word “coronavirus,” President Donald Trump lashed out at MSNBC and CNN for their coverage of the outbreak, claiming that they are “doing everything possible” to make the situation “look as bad as possible.

https://deadline.com/2020/02/donald-trump-blames-media-coverage-of-coronavirus-for-dow-jones-drop-1202868771/

Your diversion doesn't change the fact the media downplayed the virus.

[Tippaporn]

16 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Now please include the first post regarding this I replied to, the one where you said that as long as Trump keeps telling the truth you will keep supporting him.

 

And no, it wasn't me that said 'you're implying ... supposed hypocrisy'.

Keep trying, steven.  In any case, I ain't going to bicker with you about this any longer.  Just take xylophone's advice; put it on your desktop and have yourself a daily laugh.

[simple1]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

The facts in the Flynn case justifiably exonerate him.  The charge of political interference used to trump those facts can be attempted but will fail as soon as proof of it is required to be produced and shown to negate all other facts.  It ain't going to happen.

LOL - as you correctly say, only your opinion

[metisdead]

A post using an offensive Gestapo reference has been removed as well as a reply. 

 

A post containing a comment on moderation has been removed.  Please be reminded that this topic is about:

 

Trump says he could bring back fired ex-national security adviser Flynn

 

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday he would consider bringing his fired former national security adviser Michael Flynn, a key figure in the probe into Russia's interference in the 2016 election, back into his administration.

 

The president's comments, the latest in a string of remarks about Flynn, go beyond prior suggestions by Trump that the retired general could be in line for a presidential pardon.

[Tug]

Hey can we all say banana republic humm come on November!!! Enough of this nonsesce enough of the corruption just pathetic 

[simple1]

3 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

<SNIP>How many times do you people need to be proven wrong before you realize that you're being played?  <SNIP>

One can equally say you're being manipulated by the content you access. As repeatedly posted by members of the forum we have to await the ruling of the judge. No doubt if not in favour of Flynn, trump admin will escalate to the Supreme Court. Either way, the damage being done by a highly divisive and hyperbolic partisan President will continue.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Now please include the first post regarding this I replied to, the one where you said that as long as Trump keeps telling the truth you will keep supporting him.

 

And no, it wasn't me that said 'you're implying ... supposed hypocrisy'.

Still nothing to say about the OP. Isn't that the essence of deflection?

[thaibeachlovers]

20 minutes ago, simple1 said:

One can equally say you're being manipulated by the content you access. As repeatedly posted by members of the forum we have to await the ruling of the judge. No doubt if not in favour of Flynn, trump admin will escalate to the Supreme Court. Either way, the damage being done by a highly divisive and hyperbolic partisan President will continue.

IMO Trump will just pardon him and be done with it. Then he can put Flynn in charge of the investigation of the people that fitted Flynn up. Now that'll see fear and loathing to the max!

[TopDeadSenter]

25 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Then he can put Flynn in charge of the investigation of the people that fitted Flynn up. Now that'll see fear and loathing to the max!

Can't wait for this !!

[Tug]

2 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Can't wait for this !!

Ain’t gonna happen trumps toast now he may try a coup I doubt he’d get away with it 

[TopDeadSenter]

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

Ain’t gonna happen trumps toast

I do believe I heard this before? (rolls eyes)

[candide]

8 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

This is not the thread for discussing the Chinese Wuhan virus response.

Tell it to Crazy Alex. I replied to "Trump and media downplayed the virus."

[candide]

7 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Your diversion doesn't change the fact the media downplayed the virus.

It's not true, apart from Fox News and similar media. You and other Trumpers were criticizing them for allegedly exaggerating and creating panic by overstating risk of pandemic. 

So you were criticizing the MSM for overstating, and now you claim they were downplaying? That's completely incoherent.

Edited May 10, 2020 by candide

[stevenl]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Still nothing to say about the OP. Isn't that the essence of deflection?

I have made quite a few posts about the OP already. How about you?

 

So what do you think about the claim 'trump is telling the truth so I keep on supporting him'?

Edited May 10, 2020 by stevenl

[i84teen]

21 hours ago, simple1 said:

There are plenty of sources in credible media stating the DoJ decision to drop charges against Flynn is political interference. trump has a track record of attempting to undermine the Rule of Law, Obama's observation will ring true for the majority. trump's comment calling out the FBI prosecution as 'treason done by human scum' is a very low point in US politics, 

 

https://www.thewrap.com/joe-scarborough-trump-calling-fbi-scum-is-low-point-in-u-s-politics/

 

As already mentioned by members we will have to wait and see the judges decision will be in the Flynn case. 

"There are plenty of sources in credible media stating the DoJ decision to drop charges against Flynn is political interference"

Thats just your opinion based on someones speculation/opinion. What u r saying is it is a "credible opinion". NOPE...it ain't, its a big NOTHING for those who can't accept the total screw-up when the FBI got caught red-handed lying, and breaking the laws.

[simple1]

2 hours ago, i84teen said:

"There are plenty of sources in credible media stating the DoJ decision to drop charges against Flynn is political interference"

Thats just your opinion based on someones speculation/opinion. What u r saying is it is a "credible opinion". NOPE...it ain't, its a big NOTHING for those who can't accept the total screw-up when the FBI got caught red-handed lying, and breaking the laws.

You are aware Flynn's lawyer is to the right of centre in US politics and is known for supporting conspiracy theories (link previously provided), as is trump. As already posted we will have to wait the outcome of the judge's ruling. If the ruling is against Flynn's appeal no doubt the trump administration will escalate to the Supreme Court.

[Tippaporn]

12 hours ago, simple1 said:

You are aware Flynn's lawyer is to the right of centre in US politics and is known for supporting conspiracy theories (link previously provided), as is trump. As already posted we will have to wait the outcome of the judge's ruling. If the ruling is against Flynn's appeal no doubt the trump administration will escalate to the Supreme Court.

Keep plying your totally unsubstantiated claims, simple1, because that's all you have left.  Here's a revelation for you . . . i-t  a-i-n-'-t  w-o-r-k-i-n-g.  You still have time to get yourself on the right side of history.

 

What you don't understand yet (perhaps) is that every day more and more classified information is being declassified.  Declassification will reveal the truth.  Trump has it all.  And there's nothing you can do about it.  Declas is like death by a thousand cuts for the traitors as it's slowly dripped out, day by day.

[simple1]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

Keep plying your totally unsubstantiated claims

I have provided links to credible sources. Accordingly kindly cease your baiting / misinformation posts. As repeatedly mentioned by myself and others the fact of the matter is to wait and see the outcome of the judge's ruling. No further reply to you on this OP as longer can be bothered to respond to your ceaseless repetition.

Edited May 11, 2020 by simple1