UK ready to quit EU on 'Australia terms' if no Brexit deal, Johnson says

[Nigel Garvie]

10 minutes ago, vogie said:

I seem to remember the Labour Party saying that they would honour the 'Democratic' vote of the UK, and while we're at it so did the Lib/Dems, but it was only the Tories that didn't renege on the vote of our electorate. Upholding a democratic vote, oh how awful.

As the Rolling Stones said, "You Can't Always Get What You Want" and coming out with posts like "one of the most ridiculed nations on earth" and the rest, is purely sour grapes from a very poor loser.

Enjoyed it then ????????????

 

Try reading what I said ..........."no tears here, leave".  No sour grapes, just pity.

 

Boris has been an incredible servant to the cause of Scottish independence, I should show some gratitude.

[transam]

5 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Why? Who had it previously? What will improve now?

Oh well....................????

[vogie]

1 minute ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Enjoyed it then ????????????

 

Try reading what I said ..........."no tears here, leave".  No sour grapes, just pity.

 

Boris has been an incredible servant to the cause of Scottish independence, I should show some gratitude.

"Boris has been an incredible servant to the cause of Scottish Independence" of course he has, he said 'no'????????

[Mavideol]

14 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Hardly worth bothering, only 3 or 4 countries to trade with, the other 23 countries buy <deleted> all off us....that 450 million trade block is in reality about 200 million, so not so big after all

had a good friend that liked to eat grapes, always eating the ones close to the ground, when this ones finished he try to jump up and get the ones slightly higher, he couldn't reach them and gave up, stupid me, I ask why not try again and his answer was ""not raped yet""..... EU is about 445 million people and counting...

[samran]

5 hours ago, DoctorG said:

There are eleven countries in the world that have a AAA credit rating from the three international credit rating agencies, S&P, Moody’s and Fitch. These countries are:

1. Australia
2. Canada
3. Denmark
4. Finland
5. Germany
6. Luxembourg
7. Netherlands
8. Norway
9. Singapore
10. Sweden
11. Switzerland

And...? 
 

Eight of those countries are members of the EU/EEA (I’m including Switzerland in that)

[ukrules]

3 hours ago, DefaultName said:

Back in 75(?), I voted to join the Common Market, which I still think is a good idea, but the politicians and unelected bureaucrats have, very gradually, turned that into Federal Europe, which is not what we signed up for and is NOT a good idea (for the UK anyway)

I share this view. Once Brexit is completed on whatever terms are agreed or not with the EU, what's next?

 

I have a feeling that the UK will proceed at first with commonwealth partners and create a new multilateral free trade market which spans the globe. This new common market will grow country by country over the years.

 

Such a free market, like the original 'common market' would only be about trade with no federalist aspirations.

 

I expect it to be made known that any other countries considering leaving the EU would be welcome to join immediately on their exit.

[BangkokReady]

7 hours ago, paddypower said:

did the Brexit referendum say ''do you want to leave the EU without any deal'' (or to put it in realistic terms - ''without any idea of where we're going to?'')

I think for many people it said either "Do you want to cast a protest vote to say f-you to the man because you don't believe for a second that leave will win?" or "Are you under the misguided idea that Britain somehow doesn't have control over their own legal system and parliament, while simultaneously thinking that leaving the EU simply means getting back control and not giving the EU any money while nothing else will change?".

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, ukrules said:

I share this view. Once Brexit is completed on whatever terms are agreed or not with the EU, what's next?

 

I have a feeling that the UK will proceed at first with commonwealth partners and create a new multilateral free trade market which spans the globe. This new common market will grow country by country over the years.

 

Such a free market, like the original 'common market' would only be about trade with no federalist aspirations.

 

I expect it to be made known that any other countries considering leaving the EU would be welcome to join immediately on their exit.

I might be wrong, but I think one of the desires was to try and stop us all trying to kill each other.....a common market was a first step to improve everyone's lot...the second stage is a form of federalism....the problem I guess is how far you go with that and how you control it.

[bellboy]

The Uk has a trade deficit with the EU. and it stands  to loose out more in trade and job losses .

What the EU politicians Don't like is the fact that The UK. Will be able to freely trade with the rest of the world . and will be willing to see thousands of job losses . and businesses go bust in the EU.

In an attempt to hold on to it's power. 

With the Damage of C-19 to the economy and a recession looming And the loss of one of their biggest tax contribution sources .

If the EU are not willing to do a fair deal. It will not be good for them  !

[pixelaoffy]

18 minutes ago, ukrules said:

I share this view. Once Brexit is completed on whatever terms are agreed or not with the EU, what's next?

 

I have a feeling that the UK will proceed at first with commonwealth partners and create a new multilateral free trade market which spans the globe. This new common market will grow country by country over the years.

 

Such a free market, like the original 'common market' would only be about trade with no federalist aspirations.

 

I expect it to be made known that any other countries considering leaving the EU would be welcome to join immediately on their exit.

The Eu fears groups of free trading countries. Remember that it wants a federal, political,centralized union under its courts in a legal organization.( it has plans for further integration). EU is s-hit scared of the Uk starting a ball rolling of "free traders" without its  bureaucratic  filthy paws  having control . 

[sammieuk1]

2 hours ago, kingdong said:

it should have been the easiest deal in history,however thats what happens when you send a woman to do a mans job.

Boris's hair has confused many I suppose ????

[spiekerjozef]

How many times they left the EU by now? 23 times.

The first time was in 1972.

 

What an annoying country.... GO !

[vogie]

7 minutes ago, spiekerjozef said:

How many times they left the EU by now? 23 times.

The first time was in 1972.

 

What an annoying country.... GO !

In all fairness your anger should be directed at the remainers, for without their interference we would have left 3 years ago, but Boris has got it all sorted now.

[candide]

27 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

The Eu fears groups of free trading countries. Remember that it wants a Federal,political, centralized legal organization. EU s-hit scared scared of the Uk starting a ball rolling of "free traders" without its  Bureaucratic   filthy paws controlling . 

Lol! As if the EU did not think of doing it before. ????

All your commonwealth countries already have or are going to have an FTA agreement with the EU.  There are also FTA agreements with Japan, SK, Mercosur, Mexico, Chile, Mediterranean countries, etc...

The only significant 'original' deals the UK can still conclude are with the USA (good luck with that) and China (but don't send Royal Navy ships to patrol in the South China Sea).

 

https://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/negotiations-and-agreements/

https://trade.ec.europa.eu/tradehelp/free-trade-agreements

 

[Tropposurfer]

Being a selfish bar steward that I am all I'm worried about is my dual citizenship don't help me with easy-peasy travel around the EU now like it did pre leaving ... Oooo <deleted> ! lol ????

[Surelynot]

It is a strange state of affairs (and it is the same in every country) that politicians (wealthy one's at least) can be as gung-ho as they like with a whole nation's future and there are simply no consequences other than.....early retirement?

 

It must be a unique situation in the world that someone can wreak havoc, shrug their shoulders and just walk away......which is what Cameron did I guess.

[sammieuk1]

4 hours ago, transam said:

How strange, you an EU guy talking not nice about the UK pound because you are going to lose it....Hmmmm, you really should loosen up, your Euro will be OK, will cost you more, but will be OK, and I will not stoop that low as to lambaste it either....????

Have you overdosed on Chiang Mai air today?????

[bannork]

2 hours ago, vogie said:

They were promised Brexit and correct me if I'm wrong, isn't that what we got.

They were promised a sweet Brexit but they're getting a toxic one.

[orchis]

leave under Zimbabwe rules if you must but leave already.

[vogie]

8 minutes ago, bannork said:

They were promised a sweet Brexit but they're getting a toxic one.

You don't know what we are getting yet, nor does the EU. You have added the word "sweet Brexit" but as you well know, we were only promised Brexit.

This is what we voted for, no mention of sweet brexit or any other configurations the remainers wish to add on.

 

 

[tribalfusion001]

All academic anyway, Priti Patel saying first local lockdowns may happen in the few days in Leicester and guess what it's a South Asian area of town. If anyone remembers the riots in the 2000s in the north, well, it's going to start again.

[puipuitom]

2 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Don't fall for the lie that Brexit has even close to universal popularity in the UK. Only a little more than a third of the electorate voted for it. 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/25/uk/uk-supports-eu-four-years-after-brexit-intl-gbr/index.html

The discussion between UK ( of England) and the EU: may we ...PLEASE ... enter again...

[IvorBiggun2]

8 hours ago, edwinchester said:

So Farage, Johnson and Gove were all lying or mistaken when they all said a trade deal with the EU would be the easiest trade deal negotiated in history.

Can you provide a link to that quote? Good luck with google. You can't cuz none of the 3 said that. More <deleted> from the opposition.

 

 

 

 

Quote

Liam Fox has said a post-Brexit free trade deal with the EU should be the “easiest in human history”, but insisted that the UK could survive without one.

Eat my shorts.

[puipuitom]

33 minutes ago, bannork said:

They were promised a sweet Brexit but they're getting a toxic one.

Never believe the mouth = Boris the Liar, nor his brains, Dominic Cummings.

[welovesundaysatspace]

20 minutes ago, vogie said:

You don't know what we are getting yet, nor does the EU. You have added the word "sweet Brexit" but as you well know, we were only promised Brexit.

This is what we voted for, no mention of sweet brexit or any other configurations the remainers wish to add on.

Then no complaining about BRINO anymore should it happen, because as you said: you only voted for Brexit, no mention of sweet brexit or any other configurations the Brexiteers wish to add on ???? 

 

[vogie]

7 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Then no complaining about BRINO anymore should it happen, because as you said: you only voted for Brexit, no mention of sweet brexit or any other configurations the Brexiteers wish to add on ???? 

 

Brexit is not Brino. HTH

[Rookiescot]

30 minutes ago, vogie said:

You don't know what we are getting yet, nor does the EU. You have added the word "sweet Brexit" but as you well know, we were only promised Brexit.

This is what we voted for, no mention of sweet brexit or any other configurations the remainers wish to add on.

 

 

But you knew what you were voting for right?

[welovesundaysatspace]

Just now, vogie said:

Brexit is not Brino. HTH

And since it’s not on the ballot paper, I guess it’s up to you to decide... ???? 

[vogie]

1 minute ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

And since it’s not on the ballot paper, I guess it’s up to you to decide... ???? 

Hello, Good Evening and Welcome, not up to me, but we have faith in David Frost.

[vinny41]

28 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/25/uk/uk-supports-eu-four-years-after-brexit-intl-gbr/index.html

The discussion between UK ( of England) and the EU: may we ...PLEASE ... enter again...

do you know that the people that conducted the survey receives funding from the  European Commission,