Fearing an election loss, Trump allies push him to be less polarizing

[herfiehandbag]

21 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

His increasingly slumped body language and defiant stone face is not the same as his original  smugness and pompous stance.

He doe seem to be starting to resemble the MacDonalds products which are allegedly his staple diet!????

[billd766]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The unstated agenda is probably to keep Biden from destroying the country.

Biden will have to work hard to do that, as there won't be a lot left to destroy by November.

[Matzzon]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Trump allies push him to be less polarizing

This must be a gigantic typo! They must mean that he should try to be less bi-polar.

[opalred]

 his mouth certainly going around the world

survey in EU shows only 2 %of people trusted  trump and usa

next president has a lot of work ahead to clean his mess up 

[riclag]

3 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

Demagoguery thru'the medium of "tweets"-hopefully a failed experiment which will never be repeated to the same extent ever again.

To your point!

Some of the off cuff tweets could of been more presidential, but that's the Queens New York swagger!  I expect him to come  out with a different approach, tagging biden as a socialist, while still trolling the opposition !There is so so much that America doesn't know about biden and so much America knows about Mr. Trump!

 

 Hopefully your right about  the experiment that will never be repeated again . Future POTUS shouldn't have to go through what this President experienced,  specifically the Russian hoax attack on him .

 

There was a lot of interesting events that American's witness! One  comes to  mind which turned out true. Just look at my Signature at the bottom!

 

 Currently  obama, biden and many in his  administration are being investigated, by Mr. Bass. Many Americans want justice for 3 years of MSM ,dems and never Trumper"s shenanigans!

 

And than there's the debates,biden won't have his teleprompter,his wife to hold his hand or be able to select his  debate questions or reporters. He probably imop won't come out of hiding  from his bunker! I think Mr. Trump will ask to visit him imop! Mr Trump has a lot of material to work with, that the msm refuses to press biden on !

 

If you recall the 2016 campaign, all the same characters above were throwing daggers and joking at his tweets, especially when he mention obama admin tapped his Trump tower phones ,after which NSA director Admiral Mike Rodgers told him to set up shop in another location. 

 

Finally depending on how Mr. Trump uses the Durham,Bass , Graham investigation results and the economy getting back to previous levels, his allies will be right in step!

 

Edited July 2, 2020 by riclag

[Orton Rd]

Even Yahoo have an article citing Bidens cognitive decline, if he has Tv debates with Trump he will be helpless and probably end up crying and wetting himself.

[simple1]

5 minutes ago, riclag said:

<SNIP>If you recall the 2016 campaign, all the same characters above were throwing daggers and joking at his tweets, especially when he mention obama admin tapped his Trump tower phones ,after which NSA director Admiral Mike Rodgers told him to set up shop in another location. 

 

Finally depending on how Mr. Trump uses the Durham,Bass , Graham investigation results and the economy getting back to previous levels his allies will be right in step!

 

Can't be bothered to respond to all of the nonsense / conspiracy stuff. However, just to highlight the endless fact free trump world.

The FBI and NSA directors agree: Trump’s wiretapping allegations are baseless.

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/3/20/14982624/trump-obama-wiretapping-fbi-nsa

 

[riclag]

2 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Even Yahoo have an article citing Bidens cognitive decline, if he has Tv debates with Trump he will be helpless and probably end up crying and wetting himself.

Its bazzar that the very same cast of characters  who caused Mr. Trump are back at it again

[Walker88]

26 minutes ago, riclag said:

 

 

If you recall the 2016 campaign, all the same characters above were throwing daggers and joking at his tweets, especially when he mention obama admin tapped his Trump tower phones ,after which NSA director Admiral Mike Rodgers told him to set up shop in another location. 

 

Finally depending on how Mr. Trump uses the Durham,Bass , Graham investigation results and the economy getting back to previous levels his allies will be right in step!

 

I'm not sure where you get your 'information', but you have a number of mistakes and false hopes there.

 

First, 'tapped' is kind of like the Betamax of SIGINT.  Second, nobody---well, nobody affiliated with the United States Government---'tapped' any phones associated with that guy.  Third, the sole purpose behind durham's investigation is to try to find out the 'sources and methods' used by the agency and the folks in Ft Meade who uncovered the Russian plot to aid and cooperate with 45's campaign. Sources and methods are the most tightly held secrets and since not barr, not 45 and not his son-in-law are trusted, as well as having no 'need to know', that information will not be provided. (Even in the PDB sources and methods are not revealed. Generally, intel will be given credence by labelling it as "coming from a highly trusted source whose previous information given over X number of years has proven to be highly accurate"). As case officers, we owe no higher loyalty than to the person working clandestinely with us, even to the extent we will give up our own lives before revealing identities.

 

barr is trying to manufacture a scandal by looking at the original drafts of intel reports and Contact Reports, which is particularly silly and misleading, because initial drafts are quite raw and their primary purpose is to be used as a stepping stone to ferret out more detail so that a finished product can be produced.

 

I'm just going to guess you know very little about intelligence collection or the clandestine services, nor how intelligence is gathered, collated, analyzed, added to, and how a final product is produced.

 

I do know that one of the things both sessions and barr have done is try to block intel from reaching those who should have had access to it. A great deal that would have aided Mueller and his team was prevented from reaching them, and strict limits were put on what they could investigate. It was the equivalent of not being able to study Jeffrey Dahmer's kitchen and cookbook, yet somehow find him guilty of cannibalism.  He'd still be following the same diet. Mueller was prevented from key intel and also key financial data, such as the capital structure of 45's business and his sources of financing.  Fortunately, all of that is preserved and will be used when rule of law is returned to the United States. 45's is going to have a lot of free time on his hands, without a phone or Twitter account, when he is no longer 'sitting POTUS' and can hide behind a poorly used OLC opinion.

Edited July 2, 2020 by Walker88

[riclag]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

Can't be bothered to respond to all of the nonsense / conspiracy stuff. However, just to highlight the endless fact free trump world.

The FBI and NSA directors agree: Trump’s wiretapping allegations are baseless.

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/3/20/14982624/trump-obama-wiretapping-fbi-nsa

 

I hear ya and I disagree > I'll trade you a  SHARYL ATTKISSON opinion piece from the Hill  and a  military  experts opinion for your March 2017 opinion article of  Vox ,ok! I'm gonna leave it at that !

 

https://combatveteransforcongress.org/story/how-nsa-director-admiral-mike-rogers-saved-us-massive-constitutional-crisis

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/351495-it-looks-like-obama-did-spy-on-trump-just-as-he-did-to-me

 

[johnpetersen]

21 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Even Yahoo have an article citing Bidens cognitive decline, if he has Tv debates with Trump he will be helpless and probably end up crying and wetting himself.

It's so weird that Trump supporters think Trump is going to triumph in a debate with Biden. I've heard Biden interviewed and I've heard Trump interviewed. Biden is capable of going into detailed explanation of policy and the legislative process that got them there. Trump is flummoxed by the simplest questions. Just look at his interview with Hannity where he's asked what are his plans for the next term. Or look at any interview with him. He demonstrates no grasp of even basic facts and repeatedly makes things up. Why do you think that his will play well in a debate?

[simple1]

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

I hear ya and I disagree > I'll trade you a  SHARYL ATTKISSON opinion piece from the Hill  and a  military  experts opinion for your March 2017 opinion article of  Vox ,ok! I'm gonna leave it at that !

 

https://combatveteransforcongress.org/story/how-nsa-director-admiral-mike-rogers-saved-us-massive-constitutional-crisis

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/351495-it-looks-like-obama-did-spy-on-trump-just-as-he-did-to-me

 

At least you're good for a laugh. Opinion pieces from right of centre sources versus Directors from the FBI and NSA

[Mama Noodle]

10 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

Why do you think that his will play well in a debate?

 

The debates were what got him over the line last time. They were not a negative but a positive. 

 

But I have a feeling it'll all be astroturfed to cater to Biden, nothing live, CNN/MSNBC may or may not cover it live so they can chop everything up and make it look as bad as possible. 

 

Whatever happens, I seriously doubt that Biden and Trump will be on stage together and live, Biden team will fight that tooth and nail so he doesn't look like a geriatric old man who's in cognitive decline. 

[Andrew65]

4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Biden does not have to win this election.

He just needs Trump to lose it.

In this election Trump doesn't have his biggest advantage from 4 years ago.

Hillary's unpopularity.

[Bluespunk]

5 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

In this election Trump doesn't have his biggest advantage from 4 years ago.

Hillary's unpopularity.

No, his biggest advantage was those middle ground voters who were unsure on whom to vote for and decided to give trump a chance.
 

They ain’t gonna do that again. 

[Andrew65]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

No, his biggest advantage was those middle ground voters who were unsure on whom to vote for and decided to give trump a chance.
 

They ain’t gonna do that again. 

Four years ago when I still lived in Thailand, CNN was my regular news channel.

There was an American journalist on one day who said the following (words to this effect):

"I've covered Presidential elections since the Nixon years, never can I remember another time when both (the last two) candidates were so 'weak'!"

[candide]

10 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

In this election Trump doesn't have his biggest advantage from 4 years ago.

Hillary's unpopularity.

Well, she won the popular vote, so she was surely not unpopular.

 

She just had not enough popularity advantage over Trump, in to overcome the disadvantage resulting from the current system in the US.

[Why Me]

If the economy hasn't recovered and the pandemic is still raging in Nov. Trump is toast. If the situation improves then it's going to hinge on the debates.

 

There's more at risk for Biden in debating. Trump's bluff and bluster will be par for the course. No one will care. But one gaffe from Joe and there'll be a roar of "Told you he's not all there."

[Mama Noodle]

2 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

"I've covered Presidential elections since the Nixon years, never can I remember another time when both (the last two) candidates were so 'weak'!"

 

Not going to improve much with Biden. 

 

They could have had Yang or Tulsi and I have no doubt they would have won, now theve got a guy they have to shelter and spoon feed, otherwise it almost looks cruel to have him propped up there like a corpse. 

[Bluespunk]

32 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

Four years ago when I still lived in Thailand, CNN was my regular news channel.

There was an American journalist on one day who said the following (words to this effect):

"I've covered Presidential elections since the Nixon years, never can I remember another time when both (the last two) candidates were so 'weak'!"

That might be so, but trump’s losing the “swing voters” and that will cost him this election. 
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/us/politics/trump-swing-voters.amp.html

 

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/613651/

Edited July 2, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Andrew65]

1 minute ago, candide said:

Well, she won the popular vote, so she was surely not unpopular.

 

She just had not enough popularity advantage over Trump, in to overcome the disadvantage resulting from the current system in the US.

Yes, but don't forget that she was considered a shoo-in prior to the election, in the early stages of the campaign, or that people thought it was nigh impossible for Trump to win.

[Mama Noodle]

2 minutes ago, Why Me said:

But one gaffe from Joe and there'll be a roar of "Told you he's not all there."

 

Thats why the DNC/Bidens Team are going to do everything in their power to keep him from being live and side by side with Trump. 

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

“Less polarizing”? Really?? Maybe like, can he have less of an ego? Or talk less trash? Haha. These are hard wired into Donald Trump.

 

If his Twitter’s any indication, he’s going for MAXIMUM POLARIZATION!

[4reaL]

40 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

 

 

Whatever happens, I seriously doubt that Biden and Trump will be on stage together and live, Biden team will fight that tooth and nail so he doesn't look like a geriatric old man who's in cognitive decline. 

 

More likely scenario is a live Zoom broadcast with someone feeding Biden answers to questions already given to him by Donna Brazil.

 

 

[KarenBravo]

3 hours ago, robblok said:

Its sad to see that this is the best the US can come up with two elderly president candidates non really inspire confidence. Its more like what one is less of a disaster. 

.......which is why Trump won in 2016. The democrats created Trump.

[EVENKEEL]

The first time biden starts stuttering and loses his train of thought in the debates Trump will pounce like a tiger. It will be savage.

[Rimmer]

A rather nasty troll post has been removed

[Pedrogaz]

I had a weird dream that Trump would dump Pence and put Ivanka in his place. She would become the first woman president, if he died in office. Then the dream turned ugly and he recovered.

[Rookiescot]

6 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

The first time biden starts stuttering and loses his train of thought in the debates Trump will pounce like a tiger. It will be savage.

Pounce like a tiger?

One that can hardly lift a glass of water or walk down a ramp?

That kind of tiger?

[Mama Noodle]

17 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

The democrats created Trump.

 

They'll never admit this, and have done nothing to rectify it. In fact they have flew off so far to the left they are unrecognizable from anything they have ever been. 

 

Not sure how thats going to play out, Biden being their 'moderate' puppet.