UK concerned by rise in small boats crossing from France, immigration official says

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UK concerned by rise in small boats crossing from France, immigration official says

 

FILE PHOTO: Border Force crews of British Coastal Patrol vessels position their craft in Ramsgate harbour, Britain, January 4, 2019. REUTERS/Peter Nicholls/File photo

 

(Reuters) - The United Kingdom is concerned by an "unacceptable" rise in the number of small boats crossing the English Channel from France and would act to return "illegal" migrants, immigration compliance minister Chris Philp said in an opinion piece for The Telegraph newspaper https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/08/07/intend-return-many-illegal-migrants-have-arrived-possible.

 

Philp said he was going to Paris next week to discuss the issue. The UK would urge France to stop migrants from getting into boats and would also "need to intercept" those who do leave France and "return those who make it to our shores," Philp wrote.

 

A rising number of migrants attempting to cross the English Channel from France have led to ministers demanding tougher actions from the French government.

 

"The French must ensure that migrants who are caught attempting to reach the UK by boat cannot do so again," Philp wrote.

 

Separately, The Times newspaper reported that UK ministers are considering blocking migrant boats in the English Channel before they can enter UK waters, modelled on tactics used by Australia against migrants, which could involve the Royal Navy and Border Force intercepting vessels as they leave French waters.

 

Almost 4,000 people have crossed the English Channel this year in more than 300 small boats, according to a BBC report.

 

Most migrants include families from countries such as Yemen, Egypt, Sudan and Iraq, among others, fleeing their homes in search of better jobs and living conditions.

 

Another Cabinet member in the Conservative government, finance Minister Rishi Sunak, said on Friday that people were "right to be frustrated" over migrant crossings and that the government was committed to reducing them.

 

(Reporting by Bhargav Acharya and Kanishka Singh in Bengaluru; Editing by Sandra Maler and Grant McCool)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-08-08

 

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[johnray]

Kept out the Germans for two world wars.  Can't keep control of a small white boat.

[jak2002003]

It is the UK governments fault...not France, Europe or the immigrants.

 

If the government closed down and arrested the people running the sweat shops, farmers basically using slave labour, stopped local councils housing immigrants or providing help to them, then there would be little to attract the immigrants to the UK in the first place. 

[simple1]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/21/home-office-deporting-migrants-who-cross-channel-in-small-boats

[Orton Rd]

concerned but not enough to do anything about it, apart from giving them 40 quid a week, putting them up in 4 star hotels and providing free meals, wi fi and medical services. Hardy a way to discourage thousands more is it? Nigel Farage even proves a party of these illegal immigrants were given a tour of Liverpool FC, total insanity.

[Orton Rd]

3 minutes ago, simple1 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/21/home-office-deporting-migrants-who-cross-channel-in-small-boats

Launched an initiative to deport, where is the report on the numbers actually deported? out of about 4k this year on this one method of arriving illegally, never mind the lorries, camper vans and sneaking in via Ireland 

[simple1]

1 minute ago, Orton Rd said:

Launched an initiative to deport, where is the report on the numbers actually deported? out of about 4k this year on this one method of arriving illegally, never mind the lorries, camper vans and sneaking in via Ireland 

Contact your MP

[Surelynot]

7 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

concerned but not enough to do anything about it, apart from giving them 40 quid a week, putting them up in 4 star hotels and providing free meals, wi fi and medical services. Hardy a way to discourage thousands more is it? Nigel Farage even proves a party of these illegal immigrants were given a tour of Liverpool FC, total insanity.

You conveniently avoided mentioning the tour was funded by a charitable organization which is supported by St John the Baptist Church...........but I guess that doesn't fit the narrative,

[Orton Rd]

1 minute ago, Surelynot said:

You conveniently avoided mentioning the tour was funded by a charitable organization which is supported by St John the Baptist Church...........but I guess that doesn't fit the narrative,

It does fit the narrative exactly- instead of discouraging illegal immigrants who could be Isis, murderers or rapists they are actually encouraging it by providing days out, money and 4 star accommodation, how is that going to discourage thousands more? The tax payer might not have paid for the jolly day out but they do for the rest of it. These people have NO right to be in the UK and need to be booted out.

[theoldgit]

Reported troll post removed.

[theoldgit]

Racist troll post reported and removed. along with quoted response.

[Surelynot]

6 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

It does fit the narrative exactly- instead of discouraging illegal immigrants who could be Isis, murderers or rapists they are actually encouraging it by providing days out, money and 4 star accommodation, how is that going to discourage thousands more? The tax payer might not have paid for the jolly day out but they do for the rest of it. These people have NO right to be in the UK and need to be booted out.

I understand your point, but the driving force is not "hotels and trips to Liverpool FC", it is the horrendous circumstances in which they find themselves in their own country....now that is a hugely complex problem to solve.

 

It is also worth noting that many of those who make it to the UK are the wealthy, well educated middle and upper class who will, within a few years, assimilate and be of benefit to the UK............many might not be and hence the requirement to screen and return.

[Heppinger]

42 minutes ago, johnray said:

Kept out the Germans for two world wars.  Can't keep control of a small white boat.

Not that the Germans ever wanted in. When did the UK begin their relentless immigration policies?

[trucking]

14 hours ago, Surelynot said:

It is also worth noting that many of those who make it to the UK are the wealthy, well educated middle and upper class

 

Surely not Surelynot. Certainly managed to dress down for the occasion. God bless them. The sub saharan elite coming to help put England on its feet. They will probably land, go into the nearest town , take a quick shufty and realize they have made a horrible mistake.

 

 

 

[Heppinger]

41 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

concerned but not enough to do anything about it, apart from giving them 40 quid a week, putting them up in 4 star hotels and providing free meals, wi fi and medical services. Hardy a way to discourage thousands more is it? Nigel Farage even proves a party of these illegal immigrants were given a tour of Liverpool FC, total insanity.

It's almost as if the wool is being pulled over your eyes.

[simple1]

52 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

concerned but not enough to do anything about it, apart from giving them 40 quid a week, putting them up in 4 star hotels and providing free meals, wi fi and medical services. Hardy a way to discourage thousands more is it? Nigel Farage even proves a party of these illegal immigrants were given a tour of Liverpool FC, total insanity.

Given asylum seekers are not permitted to work they would be reliant on welfare. Farage, so trusty worthy, not...

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nigel-farage-illegal-immigrants-hotels-worcestershire-a9648746.html

[evadgib]

Thankfully the likes of Parler has enabled the unvarnished truth to enter public domain rather than the pathetic version currently being peddled by MSM.

[RuamRudy]

4 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Thankfully the likes of Parler has enabled the unvarnished truth to enter public domain rather than the pathetic version currently being peddled by MSM.

Does Parler suggest why little Mark Francois has been so uncharacteristically quiet this past week?

[Rimmer]

An in inflammatory generalization has been removed

[evadgib]

16 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Does Parler suggest why little Mark Francois has been so uncharacteristically quiet this past week?

Not seen RR, You'd better tell everyone (although coming to think of it you just did!)

[loong]

The term illegal immigrants suggests to me that they have entered the country illegally.
That means that they have broken the law - yes? Doesn't that make them criminals?

Why not lock them up in prison instead of putting them up in hotels?

Then deport them.

[RuamRudy]

30 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Not seen RR, You'd better tell everyone (although coming to think of it you just did!)

I told you the what, not the why...

[Rookiescot]

Come January the boats will be going the other way ????

[Bluespunk]

I know a few things to be true. I do not know where I am going, where I have come from is disappearing, I am unwelcome and my beauty is not beauty here. My body is burning with the shame of not belonging, my body is longing. I am the sin of memory and the absence of memory. I watch the news and my mouth becomes a sink full of blood. The lines, the forms, the people at the desks, the calling cards, the immigration officers, the looks on the street, the cold settling deep into my bones, the English classes at night, the distance I am from home. But Alhamdulilah all of this is better than the scent of a woman completely on fire, or a truckload of men, who look like my father pulling out my teeth and nails, or fourteen men between my legs, or a gun, or a promise, or a lie, or his name, or his manhood in my mouth

Warsan Shire, Teaching My Mother How to Give Birth

 

Listen to W’arsan Shire’s words in “Home” and then pontificate and rage against those fleeing terror. 
 

 

Edited August 8, 2020 by Bluespunk
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[evadgib]

16 minutes ago, loong said:

The term illegal immigrants suggests to me that they have entered the country illegally.
That means that they have broken the law - yes? Doesn't that make them criminals?

Why not lock them up in prison instead of putting them up in hotels?

Then deport them.

Because;

 

a) There's insufficient space within HMP for the numbers involved &

 

b  ) Their host nation cannot be established, not least because many have deliberately destroyed any proof they may have had.

[Chomper Higgot]

"The French must* ensure that migrants who are caught attempting to reach the UK by boat cannot do so again," Philp wrote.

 

*Must?

 

Ought, should, it would be helpful if they..., we would appreciate, please, pretty please....

[Heppinger]

6 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I know a few things to be true. I do not know where I am going, where I have come from is disappearing, I am unwelcome and my beauty is not beauty here. My body is burning with the shame of not belonging, my body is longing. I am the sin of memory and the absence of memory. I watch the news and my mouth becomes a sink full of blood. The lines, the forms, the people at the desks, the calling cards, the immigration officers, the looks on the street, the cold settling deep into my bones, the English classes at night, the distance I am from home. But Alhamdulilah all of this is better than the scent of a woman completely on fire, or a truckload of men, who look like my father pulling out my teeth and nails, or fourteen men between my legs, or a gun, or a promise, or a lie, or his name, or his manhood in my mouth

Warsan Shire, Teaching My Mother How to Give Birth

 

Listen to Warsan Shire’s song “Home” and then pontificate and rage against those fleeing terror. 

I think Warsan's seat was stolen by a male looking for free money.  Apparently in Africa they don't burden themselves with the notion of women and children first.

[Heppinger]

15 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I know a few things to be true. I do not know where I am going, where I have come from is disappearing, I am unwelcome and my beauty is not beauty here. My body is burning with the shame of not belonging, my body is longing. I am the sin of memory and the absence of memory. I watch the news and my mouth becomes a sink full of blood. The lines, the forms, the people at the desks, the calling cards, the immigration officers, the looks on the street, the cold settling deep into my bones, the English classes at night, the distance I am from home. But Alhamdulilah all of this is better than the scent of a woman completely on fire, or a truckload of men, who look like my father pulling out my teeth and nails, or fourteen men between my legs, or a gun, or a promise, or a lie, or his name, or his manhood in my mouth

Warsan Shire, Teaching My Mother How to Give Birth

 

Listen to W’arsan Shire’s words in “Home” and then pontificate and rage against those fleeing terror. 
 

 

A scorpion, which cannot swim, asks a frog to carry it across a river on the frog's back. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung by the scorpion, but the scorpion argues that if it did that, they would both drown. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I couldn't help it. It's in my nature."

[welovesundaysatspace]

The UK could do a similar deal with the EU like the EU has with Turkey. 

[Bluespunk]

5 minutes ago, Heppinger said:

A scorpion, which cannot swim, asks a frog to carry it across a river on the frog's back. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung by the scorpion, but the scorpion argues that if it did that, they would both drown. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I couldn't help it. It's in my nature."

Can’t deny or explain away the reason many flee terror so deflect and spout nonsense. 

Edited August 8, 2020 by Bluespunk