2 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

Unfortunately self isolation doesn't work

particularly in Pattaya, you know already the reality here for a lot of people

no helmet when drive a scooter, no mask when walk in the public places

no condom when bang a short time girl, drink and smoke a lot as an habit

i don't expect these selfish and reckless guys wanting to self isolate themselves to protect the others

it's the last of their worries

 

Unfortunately, that describes a lot of the male university students.  They aren't rotten, but careless as one could be.  

33 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

You realise the 14+ days ASQ hotel could be circ 70k, a friend paid 77k for 16 days 

Yeah, that's why I said glimmer of hope with Flights, ASQ hotel and insurance currently working out about 125-150k baht

 

This is why I'm waiting a little while longer to hope it's changed to Singapore model once Thailand get no takers of the STV...have to think positively lol

 

To justify the cost, I do save 35k baht on my Aussie health insurance which would not be required and I'd have a one-way flight instead of my 4 return flights a year saving about 65k baht...funny how the mind works to make it now only 25-50k cost overall ????

3 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

Unfortunately self isolation doesn't work

particularly in Pattaya, you know already the reality here for a lot of people

no helmet when drive a scooter, no mask when walk in the public places

no condom when bang a short time girl, drink and smoke a lot as an habit

i don't expect these selfish and reckless guys wanting to self isolate themselves to protect the others

it's the last of their worries

 

Yeah, unfortunate for everyone they have to assume people will react the worse...I'm happy to wear tracker in condo self isolation to prove I'm good given 2 weeks later I'd be free ????

3 hours ago, moontang said:

Unfortunately, that describes a lot of the male university students.  They aren't rotten, but careless as one could be.  

You are right about the students

however you could hope with the age and experience

they will become more careful, unfortunately it's obvious they aren't

On 9/11/2020 at 5:30 PM, BigStar said:

 

Lots of sour grapes. For every troll disparaging Pattaya, there're a thousand Brits dreaming in their council estates of how they might live in Pattaya forever. Meanwhile it's another fine day to be here.???? Looking out across the bay at Koh Larn now . . . .

Can add me to the thousands wanting to live there. The first time I rolled along Beach Road in the back of a baht bus ( they had the low roofs back then ), the sun shone, the sea sparkled, the bars were full of pretty Thai girls and happy farangs. I knew then I'd found the home I was looking for.

26 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Can add me to the thousands wanting to live there. The first time I rolled along Beach Road in the back of a baht bus ( they had the low roofs back then ), the sun shone, the sea sparkled, the bars were full of pretty Thai girls and happy farangs. I knew then I'd found the home I was looking for.

Of ALL my international friends living here, they know many back in their respective countries wishing they could get in.

 After my usual 6 months, I could not wait to get back to the UK.

This year I will be wintering in England, its easy to forget how beautiful

and exciting it is, and with far less to worry about, and theres still

hundreds of people still speak Ingrish here.  Love it..no place like home.

 

11 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

 After my usual 6 months, I could not wait to get back to the UK.

This year I will be wintering in England, its easy to forget how beautiful

and exciting it is, and with far less to worry about, and theres still

hundreds of people still speak Ingrish here.  Love it..no place like home.

 

Let us know how it's going once the long cold winter nights set in. In Glasgow I loved the darkness and sideways rain at 4pm... 

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Let us know how it's going once the long cold winter nights set in. In Glasgow I loved the darkness and sideways rain at 4pm... 

Let me know when you go to hospital with dengue fever, or go titsup on your mocye.

Its 4pm here, suns out and its cool, just finished maintenance on the telehandler, got

a log fire ready and a bottle a grog..

I went into tops, villa, and Tesco today...utterly disgraceful.  Going to start spending 4-5 months per year in Wyoming.  Lots of good here, but so many common things are downright insulting.

Good luck to you lad, but if it's all so great why do you still come on here. 

What's upset you Mr moontang.? 

22 minutes ago, rott said:

What's upset you Mr moontang.? 

I am still upset about the roach infestation on the bread shelves at a well known grocer.  Another grocer doesn't even sell beer...and my lunch sucked, today.  Otherwise, up big in the markets this morning, but don't know of a single place with consistent cold, fresh beer at a fair price.

11 hours ago, talahtnut said:

 After my usual 6 months, I could not wait to get back to the UK.

This year I will be wintering in England, its easy to forget how beautiful

and exciting it is, and with far less to worry about, and theres still

hundreds of people still speak Ingrish here.  Love it..no place like home.

 

Most of the people I knew in my younger life in the UK seem to have moved on to other countries, a lot to Australia, and now many, as they enter retirement, Spain or Spanish Islands. I think it depends which part of the UK but many areas are lost to 'us'.....

On 8/26/2020 at 8:44 AM, aussiexpat said:

Anyone else giving up due to the barriers to get back?

No

On 10/3/2020 at 6:01 AM, scubascuba3 said:

You realise the 14+ days ASQ hotel could be circ 70k, a friend paid 77k for 16 days 

5,000 baht per night? That's a big drop from the 29,000 baht per night a month ago. Which hotel is offering 5,000 baht per night?

5 hours ago, rott said:

Good luck to you lad, but if it's all so great why do you still come on here. 

   Exactly!  I've lost count of the number of TVF posters who have been long gone from Pattaya but, yet, here they still are year after year seeking out every little news story remotely about Pattaya and taking valuable time from their fabulous lives elsewhere to pause their day to make their usually out-of-date and often inaccurate comments.  It's a mystery, likely to remain unsolved, why they just can't quit Pattaya. 

1 hour ago, Eindhoven said:

5,000 baht per night? That's a big drop from the 29,000 baht per night a month ago. Which hotel is offering 5,000 baht per night?

 

What was I thinking...29,000 baht per night. ???? Must have been looking at some suites. ????

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12 hours ago, talahtnut said:

Let me know when you go to hospital with dengue fever, or go titsup on your mocye.

Its 4pm here, suns out and its cool, just finished maintenance on the telehandler, got

a log fire ready and a bottle a grog..

I had 3 strains of Dengue and never went to hospital. No need for a m'bike in Pattaya.

Pattaya is more interesting on a quiet day than a western country on a busy one. I took thousands of photos in LOS, but barely get the camera out back home.

2 hours ago, newnative said:

   Exactly!  I've lost count of the number of TVF posters who have been long gone from Pattaya but, yet, here they still are year after year seeking out every little news story remotely about Pattaya and taking valuable time from their fabulous lives elsewhere to pause their day to make their usually out-of-date and often inaccurate comments.  It's a mystery, likely to remain unsolved, why they just can't quit Pattaya. 

No mystery. Back home sucks. LOS is super. I dream of being in Pattaya.

16 hours ago, talahtnut said:

still hundreds of people still speak Ingrish here

Still? But perhaps that variant is understood only among themselves.

On 8/31/2020 at 2:10 AM, Don Mega said:

Don't know what country old matey is from but in mine (Australia) seems that most Uni Graduates flip burgers at Macca's.... they wont be buying no houses !!.

That's probably because they don't offer grievance studies as "majors" in Thai universities.

 

If you get a Bachelor or Masters in "Critical Race Theory" or "Women's Studies", then you shouldn't wonder if you have to flip burgers (unless you publish, and actually find enough idiots to buy your books).

 

I knew someone with a PhD, who drove forklifts for a living. Why? Because it was in Philosophy, and there are only so many teaching jobs and stuff, to go around...

 

But yeah, if you get a degree in a decent field, you CAN make upwards of 6 figures per year (especially IT). And that also buys you a house.

 

My brother, for example, never even got a degree until after he was already doing well in his field (CRM), yet he built himself a house for over a half million Euros (mind you he and his wife already owned the land it's built on, which often makes up for a large chunk of house building/buying, as prices can go up to 200 euros per square meter of land, depending on where you live), bought a holidy apartment in Marbella (Spain) not so long ago, and is in the 2nd highest tax class of my country....

 

But yeah, I'm sure one can make a lot more in Thailand... if one is Sino-Thai and has the right connections, for example ???? ...

8 hours ago, moontang said:

I am still upset about the roach infestation on the bread shelves at a well known grocer.  Another grocer doesn't even sell beer...and my lunch sucked, today.  Otherwise, up big in the markets this morning, but don't know of a single place with consistent cold, fresh beer at a fair price.

Oh, dear. Petal, have you tried ALL the places in town? And what's "fair," exactly? Good thing you aren't living in Japan. But YES! What better reason to change to. . . Wyoming?????   

27 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Oh, dear. Petal, have you tried ALL the places in town? And what's "fair," exactly? Good thing you aren't living in Japan. But YES! What better reason to move  . . . Wyoming? ????   

The bar scene here, obviously swirling down the toilet for years, is just a symptom; of a much more serious disease.  Wyoming produces 7,500,000,000,000,000 BTUs of energy per year.

 

Drinking 490 ml cans of cold, fresh Heinekens that cost me <57 THB each, but go to a bar and it's 80 for a warm, old, small, and hassles from transvestites and girls with a third grade education.

Pattaya is a town for horny sex tourists and cheap broke retirees living on less than $1000 per month.

4 minutes ago, JoseThailand said:

Pattaya is a town for horny sex tourists and cheap broke retirees living on less than $1000 per month.

600 usd would be more accurate.  Most of them act like they are too good to talk about anything involving economics, unless it involves their own penny pinching.  Might as well talk to the soi dogs.

23 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Can add me to the thousands wanting to live there. The first time I rolled along Beach Road in the back of a baht bus ( they had the low roofs back then ), the sun shone, the sea sparkled, the bars were full of pretty Thai girls and happy farangs. I knew then I'd found the home I was looking for.

Mirrors my own experience. After my first vacation, I knew this is IT. Got home and started planning for my move. Took a few years but I made it and I'm still thankful to be here. Been some changes over the years (as noted almost daily here), but I've rolled with 'em. Had a nice lunch in T21 yesterday and did a bit of window shopping and girl watching. On the way home I stopped by one of my regular friendly mom & pop shops and had a cold one.

 

It takes considerable, obsessive effort (which we see here daily on the forum) or some kind of mental problem not to realize that life's good in Pattaya. The supposedly hostile Thais are quite nice and fun to joke around with after you speak a little Thai and demonstrate you're not one of the idiots like they've previously encountered. Such is a tourist town. 

 

Don't care much about the farangs, but we still got lots of pretty Thai girls. More of them don't work in bars and look much nicer. In normal times, pretty Chinese girls as well; bashers, now, only see short fat old Chinese ladies w/ bowl haircuts--how bigotry blinds one to what one would otherwise enjoy, eh. And then we got all those hot Russians. Wish they'd get topless on the beach as in the old days (talking Jomtien and Wong Amart).

 

So if you returned I think you'd be thankful to have the Promenade now and not mind in the least the cracks in the pavements. You may as well be thankful to enjoy the varying topography of the beach after a big storm. Free; tourists pay good money to see the effects of erosion at Grand Canyon. The traffic on Soi Buakhao's now easily negotiable.

 

I'm not sure what there is left to pronounce Doom upon, though, since everything's been thoroughly, completely, and FINALLY Doomed forever, a few hundred times. Our doomsters are mostly enjoying indulging in post-mortem proctology and running their little death countdowns. So that may be unsatisfying and need to be compensated for in other areas, which Pattaya will provide.????

41 minutes ago, moontang said:

600 usd would be more accurate.  Most of them act like they are too good to talk about anything involving economics, unless it involves their own penny pinching.  Might as well talk to the soi dogs.

It's so annoying when people try talk about their penny pinching instead of yours. Could you not merely change to the subject to the important one of what you regard as the fair price of beer? They may want to join you in Wyoming.

 

Pricing is indeed a weighty subject, so with the mention of beer you may find an opening to bring in Keynes and Milton Friedman. TVF Posters, mostly hailing from nanny states, would favor a Marxist approach, but you might soil some knickers by bringing the Austrian school, say Carl Menger or Oskar Lange. You'll surely find common ground, however, with the assertion that net cost + 10% is all the profit a business needs and nothing in Pattaya should cost more than it did in 1995. That should lead to a very productive discussion of how much was paid for what, exactly, and where--ad infinitum. 

1 hour ago, moontang said:

Drinking 490 ml cans of cold, fresh Heinekens that cost me <57 THB each, but go to a bar and it's 80 for a warm, old, small, and hassles from transvestites and girls with a third grade education.

Almost everyone I've ever met in Thailand had a 3rd rate education.

Most of the white folk I encounter were retired postmen/plumbers/house painters/SAS not to mention a few younger ones that appeared to be unqualified English teachers, not to mention the totally broke 'digital nomads'.

 

If I have to spend my time with stupid people, I'd prefer them to be fit young women.

Else I'd prefer to drink at home alone with cheap beer from my local booze shop, sitting in the garden.