Phuket 4 day holiday ...low numbers

[zzzzz]

I was in Central yesterday and it was busier but i guess not busy

 

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PHUKET: Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) Phuket Office Director Napasorn Kakai has revealed that some 15,000 tourists came to Phuket to enjoy the four-day long weekend Sept 4-7, altogether spending an estimated B80 million over the holidays.

 

Ms Napasorn said that the 125 hotels on the island currently open, providing some 8,000 rooms for guests, had recorded an overall occupancy rate of around 30%.

 

Of the 15,000 tourists who came to Phuket, 98% were Thai and 2% were foreigners, she said.

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-tourist-numbers-over-long-weekend-low-as-expected-77232.php

 

 

If they cant manage over 30% over a 4 day holiday, what will they do for the next few months?

 

[timendres]

17 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

If they cant manage over 30% over a 4 day holiday, what will they do for the next few months?

Expire.

[ChasingTheSun]

Closed borders = little tourist biz

 

Open borders = Tourists back and tourist biz back

 

Seems that the strategy is to keep reopening-hope alive for yhe tourist businesses, and yet simultaneously keep the borders closed and pray a vaccine or an effective therapeutic is ready soon.
 

however, the new 15minute kungflu diagnostic test coming soon could also help yo open the borders sooner to air traffic.

 

 

Edited September 7, 2020 by ChasingTheSun

[tomazbodner]

36 minutes ago, ChasingTheSun said:

Closed borders = little tourist biz

 

Open borders = Tourists back and tourist biz back

 

Seems that the strategy is to keep reopening-hope alive for yhe tourist businesses, and yet simultaneously keep the borders closed and pray a vaccine or an effective therapeutic is ready soon.
 

however, the new 15minute kungflu diagnostic test coming soon could also help yo open the borders sooner to air traffic.

 

All this talk of Phuket opening up to tourists without quarantines scared away the locals.

 

Obviously the number of establishments on Phuket are far exceeding what the local demand can support. So the number of places on offer will need to shrink as you can't count on tourists just flocking into Thailand once borders are opened, even if quarantine is removed. People are out of money. They are not coming.

 

And on tests: Quick tests are not very reliable, and only tell if you already have antibodies present, which even if you were already infectious, you might have none or delayed by several days. Antibodies take days to build up to levels detected, making these tests useless.

[ChasingTheSun]

4 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

So the number of places on offer will need to shrink as you can't count on tourists just flocking into Thailand once borders are opened, even if quarantine is removed. People are out of money. They are not coming.

 

And on tests: Quick tests are not very reliable, and only tell if you already have antibodies present, which even if you were already infectious, you might have none or delayed by several days. Antibodies take days to build up to levels detected, making these tests useless.

Actually, wherever borders have been  reopened, tourists have come back.
 

The vast majority of people  are still working and there is lots of pentup demand for their favorite beach destination of Phuket.
 

In addition, the new rapid covid test from abbott is very accurate, and is expected to be especially helpful in getting people back to flying.

[tomazbodner]

40 minutes ago, ChasingTheSun said:

Actually, wherever borders have been  reopened, tourists have come back.
 

The vast majority of people  are still working and there is lots of pentup demand for their favorite beach destination of Phuket.
 

In addition, the new rapid covid test from abbott is very accurate, and is expected to be especially helpful in getting people back to flying.

How many times did we have global border closures like this one? I'm trying to think of times in my lifetime but can't remember any...

[ChasingTheSun]

19 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

How many times did we have global border closures like this one? I'm trying to think of times in my lifetime but can't remember any...

They reopened borders in europe after the initial kungflu lockdowns, and people from all over europe were flying around europe and holidaying again.

[Susco]

1 minute ago, ChasingTheSun said:

They reopened borders in europe after the initial kungflu lockdowns, and people from all over europe were flying around europe and holidaying again.

No they weren't. There are many reports in the western press that majority of Europeans choose for a holiday in their own country.

 

Of course there will have been some that flew to another European country, but the numbers were far below normal

[ChasingTheSun]

5 minutes ago, Susco said:

No they weren't. There are many reports in the western press that majority of Europeans choose for a holiday in their own country.

 

Of course there will have been some that flew to another European country, but the numbers were far below normal

Yes of course there was a decrease, but mainly because european countries only ended the lockdown to other european countries and a couple of other smaller markets. They didn’t open to the most of the rest of the world. 
 

Brits, who are some of the biggest vacationers to the EU, were back to spain and france, and their numbers were decent and growing, until the UK began shutting it down again..

 

[steelepulse]

Friday was quite busy at the beaches and I went driving down Rawai beach front and it was stop and go traffic.  Saturday seemed to thin out a bit and by Sunday I was wondering where everyone went.

[stevenl]

8 hours ago, ChasingTheSun said:

Actually, wherever borders have been  reopened, tourists have come back.
 

The vast majority of people  are still working and there is lots of pentup demand for their favorite beach destination of Phuket.
 

In addition, the new rapid covid test from abbott is very accurate, and is expected to be especially helpful in getting people back to flying.

Wishfull thinking for Phuket. The upcoming high season is gone, it will be too late before vaccine and rapid testing are available for people to plan.

[stuandjulie]

On 9/7/2020 at 4:36 PM, ChasingTheSun said:

Yes of course there was a decrease, but mainly because european countries only ended the lockdown to other european countries and a couple of other smaller markets. They didn’t open to the most of the rest of the world. 
 

Brits, who are some of the biggest vacationers to the EU, were back to spain and france, and their numbers were decent and growing, until the UK began shutting it down again..

 

And the infection rate has shot up and is again accelerating, 10,000 cases in France yesterday and well up in all the other tourist spots I am afraid.

 

[ChasingTheSun]

“And the infection rate has shot up and is again accelerating, 10,000 cases in France yesterday and well up in all the other tourist spots I am afraid.”

Yes. That is the nature of the flu.

 

 

Edited September 11, 2020 by ChasingTheSun

[GeorgeCross]

17 hours ago, stuandjulie said:

And the infection rate has shot up and is again accelerating, 10,000 cases in France yesterday and well up in all the other tourist spots I am afraid.

 

nearly 10000 in Spain as well, UK hitting 3600

 

reports in UK newspapers today that R is 1.7 and virus is spreading widespread across the country, rising in all areas and worryingly is spreading fast to again in the elderly.

 

which begs the question - was it all worth it for 2 months of holidays?

 

i guess that depends on whether you own a beach business on the med or not