American expat charged with defamation after leaving multiple negative reviews online

[ChakaKhan]

Hmmm..thoughts..choose your battles wisely in LOS Ive learned--the hard way.

Good ole police and fancy hotel add in local mafia and trouble indeed..

I leave reviews and not always good ones but I do it so I dont use my name or identity..

Perfect reviews would make me skeptical as you can never please all people at all times,

as Ive worked in the field for over 30 yrs.....if it is indeed true then they should be able to post it, jai yen yen

 

I recall trying to bring in a bottle to a club--500 fee.....i declined--then put sangsom into a JW bottle to try that....denied.....now I just drink a tea from 7-11 and pour my small sangsom into it and im good to go for the night in a plastic bottle that looks like tea...problem being I had to drink it straight and keep a poker face!

 

[Grumpy John]

5 hours ago, oldhippy said:

That attitude explains why Farangs live in the 21st century, while Thais struggle to escape from the 19th century.

And no, I am not saying we are here to fight their battles for them.

But we should not stimulate them in their backwards thinking, or, like many, take advantage of it.

Fear = Power for some

Fear = Submission for most

Your going to have a lot of trouble dragging them into the 20th century little own the 21!  Even some uni educated types still believe the same Krap the serfs believe in. 

 

On 9/25/2020 at 12:15 PM, scorecard said:

Roll on fast the final testing which proves the vaccine works well with very little side effects.

 

Roll on fast mass production and distribution of the serum.

 

Roll on fast the situation where massive numbers of folks, globally, have been inoculated.

 

Seems to me until all of the above happens we will continue to see chaos and confusion in all aspects of the negative effects of the virus.

 

 

Don't know how that got in! ????

Edited September 26, 2020 by Grumpy John
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[simon43]

The resort's response went over the top.

 

When running small hotels in Phuket, one customer complained on TripAdvisor that my diminutive Thai wife had physically attacked him with a large plate.....

 

Another 2 young Chinese ladies said that they had been chased through the nearby rubber trees by my day manager with a loaded pistol...

 

I let the reviews stand.... because they were both true ????

 

Happy days - NOT!

[Curt1591]

The last review and rebuttal are still on Trip Advisor.

[ThailandRyan]

It is the way things are done here to save FACE that still amaze me.  Rather then this being a civil case against the gentleman it is now a Government case.  There were two ladies from the US who were arrested and imprisoned for using counterfeit money which they had been given as change a few years ago. However, if you murder someone, run someone over and your Thai, you walk away it seems.  Double pricing, and double standards done to protect the reputation of the country instead seem to me to look quite petty at times and shows how far they still need to go.

[torturedsole]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Double pricing, and double standards done to protect the reputation of the country instead seem to me to look quite petty at times and shows how far they still need to go.

I try to avoid all that.

[TimBKK]

5 hours ago, DirtyHarry55 said:

You mean deport the Thai resort owner as well haha just joking who is the owner any idea Thai or Farang even the manager has not been named as of yet?
Better idea ban the Hotel from Tripadvisor and ban reviews in Thailand completely because they serve no purpose if we can only make positive reviews without being arrested.

 

Mr. Lum Yong is the owner, apparently.
 

This website address is https://seaviewkohchang.com owned and operated by Lum Yong and Sea View Resort Company Limited.

We are registered in Thailand, and our registered office is at 63 Moo 4 Koh Chang, Trat 23170 THAILAND.

 

https://seaviewkohchang.com/privacy-policy

 

[BritManToo]

6,000bht for one night, 500bht corkage.

I wouldn't be staying there, far too expensive for me to pay.

 ........ and then arrested and put in jail ........... far better to stay at a 500bht/night hotel where they don't care what you do, or with whom IMHO.

[Thechook]

Taking your customers to court because they didn't like the service is probably the worst review you can give yourself.

[Thechook]

31 minutes ago, TimBKK said:

Mr. Lum Yong is the owner, apparently.
 

This website address is https://seaviewkohchang.com owned and operated by Lum Yong and Sea View Resort Company Limited.

We are registered in Thailand, and our registered office is at 63 Moo 4 Koh Chang, Trat 23170 THAILAND.

 

https://seaviewkohchang.com/privacy-policy

 

Just gave them a review

[BritManToo]

4 hours ago, talahtnut said:

We have paid corkage in restaurants all amicable, one must expect to pay,

He had a simple choice pay, or drink establishment beer. Why ruin the night?

Yeah teach him a lesson..sue him.

My drinking isn't so out of control that I have to have alcohol wherever I am.

Glass of water with my meal is good enough. 

I can wait until I'm somewhere else to have a drink, on the beach, on the balcony, or outside 7-11 is just fine.

[Tagged]

8 hours ago, madmitch said:

The criminal defamation laws in Thailand are an absolute joke.

 

 

Well, he come from the land of "I will sue you", so ? So how could he be surprised someone in thailand use their law against him? 

 

 

[Don Mega]

hahahahahaha

[bodga]

9 hours ago, Nout said:

Another self entitled yank bites the dust.lol

when  it  really  should  be  another  stupid  law  biting  the  dust

[bodga]

9 hours ago, rkidlad said:

Little bit advice to any business in any sector: don’t have your customers imprisoned. It isn’t a good look.

theyve  just  nailed  both  feet  into  their  mouth as  thyeve  now  publicised  it even  more

[Tagged]

Just now, bodga said:

theyve  just  nailed  both  feet  into  their  mouth as  thyeve  now  publicised  it even  more

I think many will sympathize with the hotel rather than him even the law is quite out of date. Remember every country and especially Usa, have their practicing of law out of order as well. People have easy to forget, and the hotel is quite a good one. If they on top of it was drunk, misbehaved, interrupted the rest of the hotel guests, having a nice evening. It is always more to it when you see it from two sides. 

[Don Mega]

22 minutes ago, bodga said:

theyve  just  nailed  both  feet  into  their  mouth as  thyeve  now  publicised  it even  more

I just booked a room for the weekend end of October.

[tonray]

TAT's new ad campaign: Come to beautiful Thailand, spend 14 days in luxurious quarantine hotel, and get another 2 years free of charge !

Edited September 27, 2020 by tonray

[Don Mega]

7 minutes ago, tonray said:

TAT's new ad campaign: Come to beautiful Thailand, spend 14 days in luxurious quarantine hotel, and get another 2 years free of charge !

To be fair though you dont get that extra 2 years unless you maliciously run your mouth on the internet defaming a business , any surprises in this instance the person in question is American !!

[Tagged]

32 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

I just booked a room for the weekend end of October.

Im also thinking of booking now ???? 

 

keep this thread going, and we will be back with updated information about how the hotel is run and how it feels to be a guest there now. 

[Dumbastheycome]

It seems very apparent that this is the outcome of a smear campaign by the American that involved was protracted to the point of involving fiction ! Perhaps  because he did not  receive the simpering apology for his original post he was expecting ?

The only aspect of the situation I find incredible is the Thai  law that involves the RTP in what is actually a  Civil Law situation rather than a criminal one.

Despite that the escalation of the situation to the point where it is subject to the application of Thai laws is down to the American.

 

[canuckamuck]

 I recently spent paid 55,000 baht for two weeks in a hotel in Bangkok and they wouldn't even let me leave the room in the first week. The second week I could only go out to an exercise area for 1 hour. They also conducted medical tests on me which were rather uncomfortable. Should I write a scathing review?

[ChipButty]

What was the American guys motive? people have been known to leave bad reviews to generate a refund even after they have left it has only happened to us once and I was having none of it, 

[tonray]

44 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

To be fair though you dont get that extra 2 years unless you maliciously run your mouth on the internet defaming a business , any surprises in this instance the person in question is American !!

Certainly no surprise that you would defame an entire nationality due to the acts of one individual either.

[FarFlungFalang]

9 hours ago, Neeranam said:

When you move to a foreign country, it is wise to respect its laws. If you can't, then go home. 

Luckily for the current regime they are not foreigners and don't have to respect the law which referred to coups being against the law.What about those that are considered foreigners here yet this is their home as is said to be the case with the offender in this case?

[FarFlungFalang]

9 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Just don't insist to bring your own drink for free at a hotel

We always bring our own water with us to drink at hotels and we insist on it.

[Laughing Gravy]

Just a typical childish attitude from the hotel. Well done to them for getting free publicity. The owners will think they are justified but can't get past their Thai mentality of you cant say that or else plus the loss of face.

 

If they are trying to improve their customer base they might as well change the name, as I imagine the foreign press will jump on this one.

[FarFlungFalang]

7 hours ago, Yinn said:

The drunk USA guy have opportunity to stop, He choose continue. For month++

 

Sound like annoying. Deport, not need death sentence.

 

The winner is.......

lawyers.

 

idiots.

Yinn if Thailand deports all the idiots won't you get lonely?

[ChipButty]

Sea View is located on Kai Bae Beach currently ranks 10th out of 85 properties on the island that have been reviewed on TripAdvisor. Out of 1,922 reviews, 1,090 rate the resort as excellent, 580 rate it as very good, 170 as average, 48 as poor and 32 as terrible.

Dont sound to bad to me

[polpott]

10 hours ago, EricTh said:

It seems that this event happened in July 2020 which means he's on amnesty if he's not on other visas.

 

I just went to Tripadvisor and looked at recent comments, it's all negative, did he have a few friends who created multiple accounts just to bad-mouthed that resort?

 

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g580110-d594766-Reviews-Sea_View_Resort_Spa_Koh_Chang-Ko_Chang_Trat_Province.html#REVIEWS

I saw one bad review (probably the subject of the OP) and many excellent reviews. I wouldn't have considered not booking this resort on the strength of one bad review.

 

I stayed in a resort in Koh Chang a couple of years ago. Same as Faulty Towers. I gave it a bad, but honest, review on Tripadvisor and Agoda, from whence I'd booked the resort. My friend, who was with me but had booked separately, left similar reviews. Didn't get a knock on the door.

 

As others have said, the resort owner has made things much worse. Instead of letting one bad review die a death, he's made the bad review front page news. Knowing that I may be prosecuted for leaving a bad review of this resort, I would avoid it like the plague.