'People must brace for new-normal lifestyle for at least two years before Covid-19 is contained'

[Bluedan]

Just now, polpott said:

Absolutely. My village had food giveaways during the lockdown. My wife instigated them.I gave around 1k baht each time (i suspect more). Now if I spend time with a girl in a bar, I will tip 200 as opposed to 100 before. Its good to give. Buddha likes me.

lol had to chuckle that you mention your wife AND tipping bar girls ...hope wifey doesn't read your posts ????

[polpott]

2 minutes ago, Bluedan said:

lol had to chuckle that you mention your wife AND tipping bar girls ...hope wifey doesn't read your posts ????

I'm honest with her. Honesty is always the best policy.

[digger70]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

People must brace for new-normal lifestyle for at least two years before Covid-19 is contained'

What's the new normal?

Shouldn't be any different than Before the Wuhan Flu.

 

How many people die of flu each year? Annual influenza ...

inews.co.uk › news › health › flu-how-many-people-di...

Sep 30, 2020 — The World Health Organisation estimates that between 290000 and 650000 people die worldwide every year from influenza-related causes. 

 

This is it Say No More.     ????

[polpott]

4 minutes ago, digger70 said:

What's the new normal?

Shouldn't be any different than Before the Wuhan Flu.

 

How many people die of flu each year? Annual influenza ...

inews.co.uk › news › health › flu-how-many-people-di...

Sep 30, 2020 — The World Health Organisation estimates that between 290000 and 650000 people die worldwide every year from influenza-related causes. 

 

This is it Say No More.     ????

Already 1.15 million dead this year from Covid in 8 months.

[AlfHuy]

People, you must relax.

Life is short.

Covid

Cowfit

Cow fit

 

Whatever. Take care of yourselves, wear a mask when requested, wash your hands and other private parts and don't forget to smile.

[4MyEgo]

6 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

7 hours ago, simon43 said:

Otherwise, no changes here....

So you haven't noticed the global pandemic? How odd.

@simon43 He said he hadn't noticed any changes to his lifestyle, not the pandemic, that said, I agree with simon43 no changes here, apart from international travel restrictions, same (sh-t) day, different smell

[redwood1]

This virus is the best thing that has ever happened to the NWO....Peoples compliance has blown all projections off the chart..Forget the hangover they say this party is just getting started.. 

[digger70]

12 minutes ago, polpott said:

Already 1.15 million dead this year from Covid in 8 months.

Sure, How many Really. Some numbers from the Normal Flu added to the Wuhan Flu.

You will see that the numbers from the Normal Flu are Down (only on paper).  

[VBF]

6 hours ago, simon43 said:

Yes I have.  But here in Laos there have been no deaths from Covid and only about 22 cases, most of which have recovered and left hospital.  Nothing in my lifestyle has changed at all, with the exception of postponing a shopping trip to Bangkok.  I always wore a mask when entering shops anyway (I don't to spread any kind of airborne pathogen and don't want those from others).  Many people in the shops do likewise.

 

Just my 2 Cents, Pence or Satang.....There is a vast difference in people's experiences with this situation.

 

I live in UK in an area which, presently is not suffering great restrictions. (Who knows about tomorrow?) 

I am retired so the only issues I'm experiencing are having to wear a mask in shops, and advance booking for a pub or restaurant.

Hardly worthy of mention really, compared to the millions having to work from home, or not having work at all, or whose businesses are going under to say nothing of those with kids having to juggle schedules etc.

Of course my travel has been seriously curtailed but that's a "selfish me" observation - as much as I want to jump on an aircraft, at present, we all know the score.

 

Having said that, I'm still DAMNED ANGRY (he shouted!) at the way the various governments are imposing unnecessary restrictions, or the wrong restrictions or scaring people into isolating for little or no reason and basically, despite what they keep saying, NOT following the science.

 

A Lot of it made sense back in March when everyone panicked over the unknown, but no longer does with the knowledge that has been gained.

 

I'm NOT going to discuss conspiracy theories of which there are many, but really, what is the agenda? A rhetorical question I realise, but still......

 

Rant over ????

[polpott]

6 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Sure, How many Really. Some numbers from the Normal Flu added to the Wuhan Flu.

You will see that the numbers from the Normal Flu are Down (only on paper).  

Could it be some figures from Covid (only that ignoramous Trump calls it "Wuhan flu") are added to normal flu stats? No? Doesn't suit your agenda?

 

All parties (except Trump) agree that the figures for Covid deaths is an underestimation. Are you telling me that there have been less than 59 deaths in Thailand?

[4MyEgo]

5 minutes ago, polpott said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute

 

"BitChute is a video hosting service known for accommodating far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hateful material"

 

You'll be quoting Qanon next.

 

QED.

In other words when you can't get it out there, find another source, please don't try and tell me that mainstream media doesn't have an agenda.

 

Wiki: The platform was created in 2017 to allow video uploaders to avoid content rules enforcement on YouTube,^[14] and some creators who have been banned from YouTube or had their channels barred from receiving advertising revenue ("demonetized") have migrated to BitChute.^[2]

[polpott]

2 minutes ago, Bluedan said:

people die all of the time with respiratory Illness and I have heard Virologists and other Doctors explain that these people often have a number of different infections so its likely some have COVID -19 as well as other seasonal corona virus and flu

Where did you hear that? Sat on your barstool or voices in your head?

[Bluedan]

 

1 minute ago, polpott said:

Where did you hear that? Sat on your barstool or voices in your head?

Dr. Stadler Emeritus professor of immunology 

I don't go to bars

maybe when you get off your barstool your voices will stop 

 

[polpott]

6 minutes ago, Bluedan said:

 

Dr. Stadler Emeritus professor of immunology 

I don't go to bars

maybe when you get off your barstool your voices will stop 

 

Have you read some of his nonsense. Every scientist in the world is wrong except him, apparently. Delusions of grandeur or what?

 

Sounds like you're not the only one hearing voices in your head.

 

 

Edited October 26, 2020 by polpott

[OumarhindaOunsingha]

But look at the facts: 1. Sweden has done nearly nothing to stop the spread, and only 6000 deaths in a country with 10,5 million citizens; 2. Here in Denmark we have nearly opened up everything for 2 months, now, and only 125 are in hospitals with covid, and 15 in intensive care, 6 in respirator. We are 6 million people in this country. So, do you people really think such numbers justifies such complete lockdown? 8000 extra CHILDREN die every DAY due to the economy lockdown. And all those driven into severe poverty, all those with their businesses going bankrupt, etc., etc., etc. - is it worth it? Really? With these FACTUAL numbers??

[Bluedan]

Just now, polpott said:

Have you read some of his nonsense. Every scientist in the world is wrong except him, apparently. Delusions of grandeur or what?

I think you spend far too long in bars

who says every one except for him? you ?

did you even comprehend my post or too drunk? He's a retired expert for starters no agenda to push

secondly how is it even controversial to say that people dying with respiratory disease have more than one contagion in their system

whats even slightly strange about that?

how about when you sober up fond some one who says thats not the the case?

[mr mr]

4 minutes ago, polpott said:

Delusions of grandeur or what?

or a 200 baht tip ?

[OumarhindaOunsingha]

6 hours ago, crazykopite said:

Two years of little tourism will bankrupt the country 

Unfortunately it will not ???? 

[Bluedan]

2 minutes ago, OumarhindaOunsingha said:

But look at the facts: 1. Sweden has done nearly nothing to stop the spread, and only 6000 deaths in a country with 10,5 million citizens; 2. Here in Denmark we have nearly opened up everything for 2 months, now, and only 125 are in hospitals with covid, and 15 in intensive care, 6 in respirator. We are 6 million people in this country. So, do you people really think such numbers justifies such complete lockdown? 8000 extra CHILDREN die every DAY due to the economy lockdown. And all those driven into severe poverty, all those with their businesses going bankrupt, etc., etc., etc. - is it worth it? Really? With these FACTUAL numbers??

thats correct and most of the deaths in Sweden were in nursing homes and they have admitted negligence in this regard. It could have been avoided had the vulnerable been protected and quarantined as much as possible. But we have to consider the costs of quarantining the healthy.

[polpott]

5 minutes ago, Bluedan said:

who says every one except for him? you ?

He does.

 

https://www.worldhealth.net/news/why-everyone-was-wrong/

[BritManToo]

4 hours ago, johnarth said:

numbers in the pandemic are wrong because governments (health officials) put many deaths that could or could be related to the Chinese virus in as fact was, is related to the virus, as stated many times as far as many people are concerned nothing has changed for them except they have to wear a face mask when they go shopping, and the governments say that is saving the world, who has noticed that the two meter spacing has been thrown out the window and all big officials are not wearing masks

Even if they counted (and proved) every death in the world was caused by COVID, it still wouldn't be significant enough to justify the restrictions and economic damage caused by those restrictions.

Edited October 26, 2020 by BritManToo

[4MyEgo]

19 minutes ago, polpott said:

Banned because they are far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists, and for posting hateful material. 

Don't forget your mask when heading out next ????

 

[polpott]

8 minutes ago, OumarhindaOunsingha said:

But look at the facts: 1. Sweden has done nearly nothing to stop the spread, and only 6000 deaths in a country with 10,5 million citizens; 2. Here in Denmark we have nearly opened up everything for 2 months, now, and only 125 are in hospitals with covid, and 15 in intensive care, 6 in respirator. We are 6 million people in this country. So, do you people really think such numbers justifies such complete lockdown? 8000 extra CHILDREN die every DAY due to the economy lockdown. And all those driven into severe poverty, all those with their businesses going bankrupt, etc., etc., etc. - is it worth it? Really? With these FACTUAL numbers??

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102257/cumulative-coronavirus-cases-in-the-nordics/

 

Sweden:   Cumulative Covid cases 96K      Cumulative Covid deaths 5.9k

 

Norway:   Cumulative Covid cases  13k     Cumulative Covid deaths 267

 

Denmark: Cumulative Covid cases  30k     Cumulative Covid deaths 643

 

Finland:   Cumulative Covid cases   10k    Cumulative Covid deaths 346

 

[OumarhindaOunsingha]

5 hours ago, robbioff said:

What we’re seeing is a mass over-reaction by most governments around the world. The cure is worse than the disease. Life needs to go on. Healthy people need to work. Unhealthy folks need to protect themselves.

Agreed. And end of story. Forever and ever,

[polpott]

1 minute ago, 4MyEgo said:

Don't forget your mask when heading out next ????

 

I always wear my mask when required. I'm not a selfish irresponsible idiot.

[polpott]

8 minutes ago, mr mr said:

or a 200 baht tip ?

How much do you give to the poor and needy? 555

[Bluedan]

14 minutes ago, polpott said:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102257/cumulative-coronavirus-cases-in-the-nordics/

 

Sweden:   Cumulative Covid cases 96K      Cumulative Covid deaths 5.9k

 

Norway:   Cumulative Covid cases  13k     Cumulative Covid deaths 267

 

Denmark: Cumulative Covid cases  30k     Cumulative Covid deaths 643

 

Finland:   Cumulative Covid cases   10k    Cumulative Covid deaths 346

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, polpott said:

He does.

 

https://www.worldhealth.net/news/why-everyone-was-wrong/

you make an assumption that because they are nordic they should all be the same

my understanding is that Sweden has higher population densities in city areas more poor immigrants and more large nursing homes

how about the fact they have fewer deaths per million than UK Spain and Italy all who had hard lockdowns

 

Edited October 26, 2020 by Bluedan

[sucit]

8 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

People need to tell covid deniers to go away.

The point you don't seem to get is you are free to go away. Get your groceries delivered. Make what you want your world by staying home. How else do you think the world should be run? Do you think one set of people should be able to control the other set of people's beliefs? Clearly you do, and clearly you are wrong for thinking that way. 

[Bluedan]

8 minutes ago, polpott said:

He does.

 

https://www.worldhealth.net/news/why-everyone-was-wrong/

he doesn't say everyone is wrong in fact he uses the studies of other scientists to validate his opinion. And to my original point which was simply to say that other contagions are often going present in diseased lungs, you haven't commented or perhaps too fuzzy headed to do more than a quick google search  

[mr mr]

1 minute ago, polpott said:

How much do you give to the poor and needy? 555

 

enough. i don't however go around bragging that i tip bar girls an extra 100 whole baht. you sound like a db with comments like that.