Why does the UK suffer such huge death rates from Covid?

[faraday]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No one gave a damn about me before corona, and they still don't.

I care about you, don't fret.

[BritManToo]

On 10/31/2020 at 4:21 PM, KhaoYai said:

To me, that indicates someone who doesn't give a damn what happens to others

Why do you think I should 'give a damn' about people I don't know?

I'm going with the Thais on this one.

 

Too many busybodies thinking about strangers, and caring what other strangers think about strangers.

It's a kind of mental illness IMHO. Think about yourself and your family, and maybe people you know.

 

Nobody in my gated village wears a mask (250 houses, around 1,000 Thai people).

Why would I care about what people in your village wear?

Edited November 2, 2020 by BritManToo

[sandyf]

On 10/30/2020 at 5:14 PM, BritManToo said:

Had COVID, wasn't that bad.

 

A Scottish pilot, who spent more than two months on a ventilator in Vietnam, has warned Britons "not to be blasé about coronavirus" as lockdown eases.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-53544345

[sandyf]

On 10/31/2020 at 8:36 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

 

They never had a referendum to see how many agree with lockdown- not very democratic, was it?

They didn't have to, just like the Thai government they introduced emergency powers.

The people trusted Bojo to do the right thing, that made it democratic, whether they like lockdowns or not.

Should have realised from brexit, you cannot cherry pick what you vote for.

 

The act has a two-year time limit that may be shortened or lengthened by six months at ministerial discretion.^[18] Following a government amendment, the act is additionally subject to parliamentary renewal every six months;^[8] it would originally have been returned to Parliament for debate one year after its enactment.^[18]

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[thaibeachlovers]

30 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Why do you think I should 'give a damn' about people I don't know?

I'm going with the Thais on this one.

 

Too many busybodies thinking about strangers, and caring what other strangers think about strangers.

It's a kind of mental illness IMHO. Think about yourself and your family, and maybe people you know.

 

Nobody in my gated village wears a mask (250 houses, around 1,000 Thai people).

Why would I care about what people in your village wear?

Someone had to tell those that believe "everyone cares" the, IMO, truth.

Well said.

 

Where I live no one cares about anyone other than their friends. Selfish doesn't even begin to describe it. The most selfish of all- young adults ( no children here, so can't say about them ).

[thaibeachlovers]

20 minutes ago, sandyf said:

A Scottish pilot, who spent more than two months on a ventilator in Vietnam, has warned Britons "not to be blasé about coronavirus" as lockdown eases.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-53544345

I doubt people are being "blase", but some of us don't understand why everyone is being penalised so severely when ( from google ) only 5% of INFECTED people have severe problems. Loads of people die ( and many more injured )on the roads of Thailand, but the government doesn't ban people driving.

 

Google tells me 46.4 million out of 8 billion are infected and most people who fall sick with COVID-19 will experience mild to moderate symptoms and recover without special treatment.

[Surelynot]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I doubt people are being "blase", but some of us don't understand why everyone is being penalised so severely when ( from google ) only 5% of INFECTED people have severe problems. Loads of people die ( and many more injured )on the roads of Thailand, but the government doesn't ban people driving.

 

Google tells me 46.4 million out of 8 billion are infected and most people who fall sick with COVID-19 will experience mild to moderate symptoms and recover without special treatment.

Has it ever crossed your mind that those are the statistics based on the measures taken by governments across the world......consider for one moment the consequences of the Chinese having taken no action......how many dead then?...how many with long covid....???? Think!

[BritManToo]

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I doubt people are being "blase", but some of us don't understand why everyone is being penalised so severely when ( from google ) only 5% of INFECTED people have severe problems. Loads of people die ( and many more injured )on the roads of Thailand, but the government doesn't ban people driving.

Don't know about you, but I don't want anyone that susceptible to illness flying me around.

I can only imagine his reaction to COVID hides a whole raft of hidden medical problems, and his chances of 'sudden death' while piloting.

[Surelynot]

Why does the UK suffer such huge death rates from Covid?

 

This is why.... we have a third rate journalist as PM, who it seems knows better than the whole of SAGE who recommended a lockdown 21st Sept....but no...let's go with "whack a mole".....the man is an idiot . 

 

[sandyf]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Loads of people die ( and many more injured )on the roads of Thailand, but the government doesn't ban people driving.

If you don't see the difference between medical and cultural problems then you will have no rational point of view on either problem.

[KhaoYai]

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Why do you think I should 'give a damn' about people I don't know?

I'm going with the Thais on this one.

 

Too many busybodies thinking about strangers, and caring what other strangers think about strangers.

It's a kind of mental illness IMHO. Think about yourself and your family, and maybe people you know.

 

Nobody in my gated village wears a mask (250 houses, around 1,000 Thai people).

Why would I care about what people in your village wear?

You think people who care about others are mentally ill? You should perhaps look in the mirror to find the sufferer of that ailment. Thank god we have laws.

[BritManToo]

9 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

You think people who care about others are mentally ill? You should perhaps look in the mirror to find the sufferer of that ailment. Thank god we have laws.

Yes, those who care about people they don't know have a problem.

It's only white folk that appear to have this illness.

 

I don't believe I've met one Thai who cares about people they don't know.

And if there are any, I doubt they'd care about any foreigners they didn't know.

Edited November 2, 2020 by BritManToo

[polpott]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Yes, those who care about people they don't know have a problem.

It's only white folk that appear to have this illness.

My wife organised and took part in food donations in the lockdown. Why? Because she's a good person who cares about others. And she's Thai.

 

I guess no one has ever referred to you as nam jai.

[KhaoYai]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Yes, those who care about people they don't know have a problem.

It's only white folk that appear to have this illness.

 

I don't believe I've met one Thai who cares about people they don't know.

And if there are any, I doubt they'd care about any foreigners they didn't know.

You're a sick man.

 

You're not alone though but thankfully there are more people in the world that do care than those that don't - regardless of colour.  My two closest friends in the UK are Jamaican and I can assure you that I can rely on them should I need them + they do care and give a damn about others.

 

Tell me something, if you lived in America, which way would you be voting next week?

Edited November 2, 2020 by KhaoYai

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

Tell me something, if you lived in America, which way would you be voting next week?

I wouldn't vote as I don't like either candidate, neither appear to be Marxists.

Neither appear to be pushing to reallocate land, or destroy corporate profit.

Arthur Skargill's Socialist Labour party forever!

Edited November 2, 2020 by BritManToo

[KhaoYai]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

I wouldn't vote as I don't like either candidate, neither appear to be Marxists.

Arthur Skargill's Socialist Labour party forever!

You appear to be very confused - you don't give a damn about others but you're a socialist? Slight contradiction there.

[BritManToo]

Just now, KhaoYai said:

You appear to be very confused - you don't give a damn about others but you're a socialist? Slight contradiction there.

No, I'm a Marxist.

 

[KhaoYai]

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

No, I'm a Marxist.

 

Then I suggest you read up on Marx. Marxism incorporates socialism as a given.

[Surelynot]

11 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

You appear to be very confused - you don't give a damn about others but you're a socialist? Slight contradiction there.

I think he meant Groucho

[3NUMBAS]

unhealthy folks with a variety of problems to their health ,bad diet smoking drinking etc and all overweight ,BAME

[Lacessit]

If my experience on the London Tube and in London pubs is any guide, it's easy to understand why the UK has such high death rates and infection rates.

Brits seem to like living in a fug, and some have worse hygiene standards than a soi dog. Ideal conditions for spreading a virus.

[faraday]

45 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

If my experience on the London Tube and in London pubs is any guide, it's easy to understand why the UK has such high death rates and infection rates.

Brits seem to like living in a fug, and some have worse hygiene standards than a soi dog. Ideal conditions for spreading a virus.

On the beer again Lacey ?  You need a decent British ale, none of that namby-pamby horstrayliun muck.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[johnray]

Covid likes damp miserable places.

[Lacessit]

31 minutes ago, faraday said:

On the beer again Lacey ?  You need a decent British ale, none of that namby-pamby horstrayliun muck.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sober as a judge, Your Honour. Even a cold Leo is better than warm horse pee. Are you guys still eating cold pork pies and grey cabbage?

Luring me off topic again.

[BritManToo]

Just now, Lacessit said:

Are you guys still eating cold pork pies

I could do with a cold pork pie right now.

[Lacessit]

30 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I could do with a cold pork pie right now.

Tried one once, revolting. In the same class as this stuff my GF says is expensive tucker, I pass.

[faraday]

7 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Even a cold Leo is better than warm horse pee

That's very interesting Lacey, but how exactly you know this?

 

Were you errmm... acquainted with said equine...?

 

 

[Gerefan]

The “experts” tell us it’s nothing to do with warm/cold climates. So experts please tell us why the figures are rising as Europe enters winter. The whole of Europe forecast this second wave months ago and it appeared right on cue.

 

When all this is over the world is going to say of this self imposed panic and subsequent ruined economies:

 

”What the on earth were they all thinking? It was hardly Bubonic Plague / Black Death or even World War 2 was it?”

 

As others have said:

”The Media is the Virus”

”The Virus is the Media”

 

Edited November 2, 2020 by Gerefan

[Enoon]

On 10/27/2020 at 4:06 PM, Susco said:

I have wanted to ask this question since long, why if there are such huge numbers of COVID deaths, are the average numbers not higher?

 

Am I reading these charts wrong? Are these number not real?

 

I now take UK as example, but all countries show similar results.

 

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/death-rate

 

 

 

 

 

Did you see this bit?:

 

 

 

[Dagfinnur Traustason]

On 10/27/2020 at 4:52 PM, AndrewMciver said:

The UK have fudged the books a tad by eliminating anyone passing away from Covid after 28 days. Yet the question remains, why are they still suffering from such catastrophic numbers? 

 

Even in the first wave, they suffered badly. Now onto the second wave, compared to many countries with equal covid numbers, they are still seeing masses dying. 

 

What on earth is going on here? 

 

How on earth have these Asian countries like Singapore, or Arab countries like UAE managed to have such small numbers of deaths despite huge covid infections per 100,000 people? 

What's going on? I would say, bad management and not as good quality of hospital care as they have told the rest of the world.