3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Good luck changing the constitution, LOL.

how so?  Thailand changed theirs 2-3 times, Russia and China 1- 2 times  555

Just now, Mavideol said:

how so?  Thailand changed theirs 2-3 times, Russia and China 1- 2 times  555

Just do it then, if it's so easy.

State TV Channel is saying how the DEMOCRATS are going to have to learn to compromise.

 

5555555555555555!!!!

Have  just read this  "opinion " piece that seems to  define the  healthier opinion of  events  to date.

https://billmoyers.com/story/the-boy-who-called-fraud/

23 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I have an opinion but I don't want to jinx it by saying it.

 

Yeah, don't be a Jinxthing.

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Just do it then, if it's so easy.

As much as I hate to agree with thaibeachlovers about anything, here he's right. It's very difficult to amend the Constitution. And that amendment will never pass. Too many entrenched interests against it. 

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It is incorrect. The electoral college was embodied in the Constitution when it was created. It was a compromise to allow the lower population slave states to have more of a say in governance. For the same reason, slaves were counted as 3/5ths of a person in the census in order to give the south more weight in the electoral college.

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Just do it then, if it's so easy.

Well the almighty constitution has been amended how many times? Americans seem to treat it like the koran.

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Well the almighty constitution has been amended how many times? Americans seem to treat it like the koran.

Less partisan times. And less loaded issues. It could have been done after the Civil War.

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Good luck changing the constitution, LOL.

 

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Good luck changing the constitution, LOL.

Any constitution should be 'living ', ie reflect changing demographics and opinion.

10 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

There seems to be some variants in the explanation for the  "Electoral College" That I have read  but the one  that  seems explanatory enough  although  outdated on premise is as  follows.

In the  era after the cessation of the  "Civil War " and the concept of  a united  country  where  slavery was abolished  there was  a wee bit of a problem .

LOL. Slight problem with the dates, don't you think?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

The American Civil War (also known by other names) was a civil war in the United States from 1861 to 1865

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College

Congress proposed on December 9, 1803, and three-fourths of the states ratified by June 15, 1804, the Twelfth Amendment. Starting with the 1804 election, the amendment requires electors cast separate ballots for president and vice president, replacing the system outlined in Article II, Section 1, Clause 3.

1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said:

 

Any constitution should be 'living ', ie reflect changing demographics and opinion.

So, do something about it then.

18 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

One of the biggest problems is the senate.  Wyoming has some 500k residents and has 2 votes in the senate.  California has some 39 MILLION and has 2 votes in the senate.  That's wrong.

LOL.  No, it's right.

15 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

LOL.  No, it's right.

Only if you don't believe in equal representation.  Or, only watch Fox News or OANN.

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5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

So, do something about it then.

What a fine argument !

3 hours ago, Kelsall said:

LOL.  No, it's right.

Oh well that settles it then. Who could possibly argue with the judgement of a man who predicted a Trump landslide , the bigliest win since the big one , he reckoned !!!

18 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Just do it then, if it's so easy.

555 ... lost sense of humor... 555

23 hours ago, Agusts said:

Vow, I had no idea, that's crazy, I thought it was something close to a proportional representation like the House.... , the US of A is not that much of real democracy, kind of a skewed version...!!! 

 

The Senate is another relic of slavery.

3 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

The Senate is another relic of slavery.

Yes. The entire country is. Yet the current to be evicted president denies that systemic racism exists.

Interesting how the crowd here who spent the last four years convinced there was election interference is now claiming there is no way this election could be rigged! ????

3 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Interesting how the crowd here who spent the last four years convinced there was election interference is now claiming there is no way this election could be rigged! ????

The word "interference" is a loaded one.

Some people say that when a chief of state comments on elections in another country that's interference.

Then there's interference by covertly spreading lies through social media.

But an altogether different kind of interference is the falsifying of elections.  Unlike the other 2 that's a crime and there are lots of safeguards against it being committed. So far Trump's lawyers have offered no evidence that crimes have been committed.

Can't recall hysterical crowds laced with guns protesting against Sharpie discrimination after the 2016 elections and claiming criminal interference with the elections.

I do recall Trump supporters lambasting any opposition to Trump as being inspired by the rejection of 2016 results.

Give it up already.

This Sure Isn’t the Election QAnon Wanted

The president is losing, their prophet has gone silent, and no one defeated the deep state.

Everyone, at some point, has to deal with being on the losing side of a presidential election. But followers of QAnon, the message board–fueled conspiracy theory contending that Donald Trump is waging a covert war against pedophilic Democratic elites, appears to be in disarray as the votes trickling in make it more and more certain the president will not serve a second term.

https://slate.com/technology/2020/11/qanon-election-trump-8kun.html